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shadoquad 06-30-2011 02:40 PM

Which Sporty Beater?
 
Ok, I've been mulling it over, and when my current DD dies, I'm thinking of buying a hot hatch.

Out of these three, which would you recommend and why?

Candidate A: The Mazdaspeed3 - Torque without end, crummy mileage, ugly car, but so much fun to drive and spacious...

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Candidate B: The VW GTI (or the rumored more powerful variants) - Beautiful and fuel efficient, fun to drive, lacks power, German maintenance costs

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Candidate C: The Ford Focus ST - supposed to be powerful, has sync to mess around with, but is a Ford.

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Mike 06-30-2011 02:43 PM

I like the VDub for performance, although I'm very happy with my CRZ. Its no hot hatch, just looks great and gets good mileage.

shadoquad 06-30-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1197628)
I like the VDub for performance, although I'm very happy with my CRZ. Its no hot hatch, just looks great and gets good mileage.

My coworker Remy has a CRZ. They look good, get great mileage, and he says it's fun because he can row his own gears in it. But I have a labrador, so i kinda need a four-door.

Sibze 06-30-2011 02:52 PM

Fo fo ford

phelan 06-30-2011 02:54 PM

speed 3 or the ford. i vote speed 3.

ClemsonWill 06-30-2011 02:57 PM

I like the speed3 as well.

XwChriswX 06-30-2011 02:58 PM

I say screw all of those, and go Subie ftw.

Basic WRX is sporty and has hatch option or sedan. AWD for winter, looks better, blue can't be beat. And it's still JDM. :tup: (like that matters lol)

http://www.japanesesportcars.com/pho...-wrx-5door.jpg

shadoquad 06-30-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1197663)
I say screw all of those, and go Subie ftw.

Basic WRX is sporty and has hatch option or sedan. AWD for winter, looks better, blue can't be beat. And it's still JDM. :tup: (like that matters lol)

http://www.japanesesportcars.com/pho...-wrx-5door.jpg

That's not bad. I think FWD is ok for winter, though. I've driven through all sorts of nasty snow in my Mazda 6. Wouldn't dream of it in the Z. But FWD is ok in snow as well.

XwChriswX 06-30-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1197682)
That's not bad. I think FWD is ok for winter, though. I've driven through all sorts of nasty snow in my Mazda 6. Wouldn't dream of it in the Z. But FWD is ok in snow as well.

True. my tC was just fine in the snow. But still, Subie > All Listed imo.

Here you go buddy, not all the specs will be of the exact ones you're looking at since the specific model you didn't list or they don't have available, but this will give you a good rough estimate based on what's important to you. :tup:

Mazda MAZDASPEED3 Compare - Summary - MSN Autos

Mazda Speed3
VW GTI
Ford Focus
Subaru WRX

FuszNissan 06-30-2011 03:17 PM

3 speed, a lot of performance parts, and a fun community.

nogoodname 06-30-2011 03:22 PM

go with the vdub... make sure it rubs cause if not, you aint dubbin.....lmao


then chip it....good power from these little buggers.

Red__Zed 06-30-2011 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1197663)
I say screw all of those, and go Subie ftw.

Basic WRX is sporty and has hatch option or sedan. AWD for winter, looks better, blue can't be beat. And it's still JDM. :tup: (like that matters lol)

http://www.japanesesportcars.com/pho...-wrx-5door.jpg

I've heard (but don't really know) the wrx and the z make good stablemates.... Again, just hearsay.


Of those options, I'd go speed3. They're a blast. Almost bought one instead of the z.


Do remember that sporty fwd in the snow is not the same as lame fwd in the snow :rofl2:

phelan 06-30-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1197733)
I've heard (but don't really know) the wrx and the z make good stablemates.... Again, just hearsay.

blasphemy!

Red__Zed 06-30-2011 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1197736)
blasphemy!

:icon17:

My wife took my Subaru after her lease expired and I'm not happy about it. :mad:

shadoquad 06-30-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1197743)
:icon17:

My wife took my manhood after the honeymoon expired and I'm not happy about it. :mad:

It happens to all married men :shakes head:

m4a1mustang 06-30-2011 04:26 PM

I vote for the Focus ST. I'm actually thinking about one as well.

XwChriswX 06-30-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1197842)
I vote for the Focus ST. I'm actually thinking about one as well.

Babystang?

phelan 06-30-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1197842)
I vote for the Focus ST. I'm actually thinking about one as well.

Focus ST had my attention for a while, but I can't get rid of an AWD car anymore. I need at least one lol

shumby 06-30-2011 04:33 PM

speed 3 all the way

ImportConvert 06-30-2011 05:56 PM

I'd take the Ford. A DD is about affordability and durability imo. Otherwise you would just DD your fun car.

shadoquad 06-30-2011 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1198015)
I'd take the Ford. A DD is about affordability and durability imo. Otherwise you would just DD your fun car.

I am very eager to see its price and mileage. :excited:

Red__Zed 06-30-2011 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1198015)
I'd take the Ford. A DD is about affordability and durability imo. Otherwise you would just DD your fun car.

I like to dd a second fun car, but I am kinda weird I guess.

m4a1mustang 06-30-2011 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1198114)
I like to dd a second fun car, but I am kinda weird I guess.

I'm the same way. DDing a boring car would suck.

Jamaica 06-30-2011 07:56 PM

i like the 3 speed.

Red370 06-30-2011 08:26 PM

i've been eyeing the ST for quite awhile now, ecoboosted 4 banger, yep. You know that thing will make stupid power with some tuning.

Red370 06-30-2011 08:32 PM

heres a pretty cool article about the ST

2.0-LITER ECOBOOST GIVES FORD FOCUS ST OWNERS TURBOCHARGED, DIRECT-INJECTED THRILL RIDE | Ford Motor Company Newsroom

awww, look at the baby turbo!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rboside2.0.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0bottomend.jpg

Red370 06-30-2011 08:32 PM

repost.

daisuke149 06-30-2011 08:40 PM

pontiac. g8 gt. fun assss hellll

Red370 06-30-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1198270)
pontiac. g8 gt. fun assss hellll

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wAxDMfEGho...%2Bserious.jpg

CBRich 07-04-2011 11:16 AM

Not a fan of the reliability or weight of the V-Dubs.

ImportConvert 07-04-2011 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 1198289)

It's basically an American (Australian?) BMW M5 from a couple years ago without the maintenance and a lot cheaper to upgrade. They are awesome cars for a DD. Only SLIGHTLY slower than the new Camaro SS's, and pretty decent inside.

djpathfinder 07-05-2011 12:44 AM

I too say Impreza >> Speed3 > the others

Isamu 07-05-2011 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 1203457)
I too say Impreza >> Speed3 > the others

:tup:

shadoquad 07-05-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1203428)
It's basically an American (Australian?) BMW M5 from a couple years ago without the maintenance and a lot cheaper to upgrade. They are awesome cars for a DD. Only SLIGHTLY slower than the new Camaro SS's, and pretty decent inside.

Yeah, they're cool cars, but I'm not looking for RWD, and they're a big bulky sedan. I'm looking for more lightweight solutions.

But I agree that they're damn cool cars. :tup:

m4a1mustang 07-05-2011 10:33 AM

Shado wants a G20 or WS6.

Sibze 07-05-2011 10:33 AM

You can get the G8 GXP in a 6 speed. But $$$ as it as the Corvette engine lol

Red__Zed 07-05-2011 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 1203457)
I too say Impreza >> Speed3 > the others

For the sake of clarity, wrx, not impreza. The impreza's are dogs.

shadoquad 07-05-2011 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1203854)
You can get the G8 GXP in a 6 speed. But $$$ as it as the Corvette engine lol

Dude, seriously, the cheapest I can find is 30k with over 30k miles. :(

shadoquad 07-05-2011 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1203855)
For the sake of clarity, wrx, not impreza. The impreza's are dogs.

Tru dat

WRX minimally. If I happen upon a lump of money somehow, the sti becomes a possibility.

Sibze 07-05-2011 10:35 AM

Cars for Sale: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP in JENSEN BEACH, FL 34957: Sedan Details - 302726158 - AutoTrader.com

6 Speed


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