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i look at it like this. the z is now an icon for nissian if it wasn't an important
part of the company they never would have re done the 370.. there is a market for a 35 to 45 grand two seater and nissan imho owns it.. the same way chevy has kept the vette around for over 50 years its part of their brand.... if chevy can make a 450-500 hp car... the next z has to have at least 375-400 hp. if for no other reason to keep the 5.0 and camaro in site... imo right know in the US those cars set the bar |
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I'd love to see a 3.0 DI turbo w/brake force energy regeneration (or whatever it's called) making 400hp in the next Z, but we'll see. Nissan won't put a v8 in the Z b/c it's traditionally always been a 6 banger. Same reason that the GTR won't see one eithter, it's always been a 6 or turbo 6 banger. Not too mention that the v8 is going the way of the dodo bird with increasing fuel efficiency standards all around. MC can probably elaborate, but the racing GTR's that currently utilize a v8 are doing so either to accomodate the racing body rulebook or b/c an N/A motor is more reliable in endurance racing events. |
The X in 300ZX as for "Luxury" not Turbo.
With that said, I would love a 380Z TT! :) |
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you really think 380 is next? should be interesting whats next. |
I don't want to see whats next... only because I'll go buy one ;)
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When I was looking for a car, I considered the corvette and mustang just because of the power. If the Z had 350whp I wouldn't have even thought about them. |
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for me if they make a Hybrid Z Nissan dies for me, thats a masacre for a true sports car!!! |
Well, me and the future Mrs. have decided to buy a Juke, we're gonna go with the gun metallic color and AWD version of course, test drove one and enjoyed it, its got some balls believe it or not, plenty sporty for me as well, i'm a fan, what can I say.
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http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/au...orsche-918.jpg Porsche Greenlights 918 Hybrid Supercar | Autopia | Wired.com |
just like others have said, i agree that a v8 won't happen in a new z. not only is it against tradition, but the world is progressing to a more fuel-energy conscious mind and that would further inhibit sales. the z is already a niche car being a 2-seater sports car.
as far as a boosted car, it would nice to dream, but adding 10k more to this car? its a 2 seater sports car that starts out at 30k. now we're talking base of 40k. 40k and we're talking base corvette territory. from an economics standpoint, i think it wouldn't make sense to start competing on a corvette level unless the performance was on par. however, if you make a z that performs just as well, if not better than a corvette, you cut into gtr sales. i think the 30-40k niche sports car is where nissan feels comfortable with the z. most likely a mid generation refresh with di to compete with the new 5.0 stang and upcoming z28 camaro would be most likely, while sticking to the current price range. |
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So I take it you didn't mind the styling of the Juke? I saw one reviewer call it "son of Aztec"! :icon17: |
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Not "twin turbo", just a "turbo". :) I guess I'm used to thinking of the Z with a TT, so I just projected. :icon14: |
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I don't want to start a flame war with our resident Juke owners, but some might call the car "fugly". :roflpuke2: |
I really think the addition of a hybrid motor could be a good thing. We've only seen hybrids designed to boost economy, not power, and there are some insanely fast all electric cars so we shouldn't discredit the tech. Would having an addition 50 hp from a small motor on tap whenever we want it be such a bad thing? Hell, the battery could be small since we don't necessarily need the motor running the whole time.
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Saw a real live Juke for the first time today in the parking lot at work. Looks like it could be a fun, practical vehicle. I could see my wife wanting one, or even me down the road when the bad weather car is due for replacement.
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1. Keep my Z34.... 2. Pick up the next RX7 3. Pick up the new Lotus Exige equivalent.... 4. Chill on sports cars for a bit and play with the CX7. |
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I think that a hybrid car its not a pure sports car, maybe you can have a great chassis design but the heart of the car, the soul, its not of a true sports car...
Diesel, meh, too much torque to me, I like high rev cars better... the best for the Z is: 1) small V6 DI TT ecoboost 2) small V8 high rev gasoline engine 3) bigger V6 high rev gasoline engine thats my opinion... |
Personally, I hope the keep the Z NA...turbos and superchargers are an easy way to add HP but "easy" seldom if ever truly means "better". I think it accurate to say that any sort of forced induction adds complexity which also adds cost to both manufacturing AND to maintenance (i.e. the total cost of ownership).
If folks want a turbo or supercharged on the vehicles then I would suggest leaving that in the hands of the aftermarket. Just my $0.02 of course. |
I guarantee you lighter cars w/smaller displacement is the direction everyone will start to take soon. That way they can still produce cars that are plenty fast but with better mpg.
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we'll see, only time will say the truth
I hope that Nissan continue its way developing great sports cars, and I love boost... |
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They don't look to bad. Wonder how good the block internals are - mebbe we'll start seeing Stage 1/2 upgrades soon... |
Well this could be potentially promising news on the return of the turbocharged Z:
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hmm... interesting... may consider trading up the 5.0 if they move to that engine...
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