2012 Lexus LFA vs 2010 Nissan GT-R - Motor Trend
 

the race is at the end of the video

LFA 11.8 @123

GTR 11.9 @ 120



For our drag video (see below), we rely on time tested hand signals to stage and send the cars. After the ready confirmation, our starter's hands go up one at time. When they both go down, it's show time.
Nail the LFA launch just right -- just after the hands start coming down -- and a half-length holeshot on the GT-R is possible. That's enough to crush it from start to finish. Leave but a fraction of a second later, and the LFA becomes the hunted one. Eleven seconds have never felt this slow; at every upshift, the single-clutch Lexus loses precious inches off its lead to the double-clutching GT-R. One to two -- the GT-R hits 60 in just 3.5 seconds to the LFA's 3.8. Two to three, three to four -- the GT-R nearly pulls even as both accelerate into the triple digits. Only now the LFA begins to exhort its top end dominance. That three-tenths of a second advantage is gone by 90 mph. In fact, the LFA hits 100 mph four-tenths faster than the GT-R -- and just keeps going. As both flash past the quarter-mile marker, the LFA never looks back.

And yet, for those only interested in stoplight grand prix, the GT-R is still the better choice. While the LFA may be faster on paper and on limitless stretches of highway, Godzilla launches more consistently and feasts on imperfect launches. Nine times out of ten, the GT-R leaves quick enough to overcome the LFA's top-end advantage

Although we already know who will win, it's all theoretical bench racing. During acceleration testing of the Lexus, we uncover an ugly truth about the LFA's long gestation period. Its sequential manual gearbox (SMG) feels years behind the dual clutch boxes like the GT-R.

Lexus claims no official launch control for the LFA, and its SMG transmission isn't particularly snappy when simply flooring the throttle. Yet all attempts at power braked launches (even with traction control completely shut off) are met with frantic resistance. Herky-jerky engagement results in only mid-4 second launches -- far off the claimed 3.6-second pace claimed by Lexus. At this point, our boy Bill suggests we try some illicit activity with his LFA. "Put it in neutral, rev to 4000 rpm, and then grab the + paddle for first gear," he says.

To his credit, road test editor Scott Mortara adamantly refuses -- not wanting to be the first (and last) journalist to litter the dragstrip with $375,000 worth of LFA powertrain. Only after a phone consultation with the engineers back at Lexus HQ, does Mortara grudgingly consent to try this technique.

It works, but not all of the time. A great launch means only a chirp of the tires and blistering acceleration, but vary the rpm just bit and the LFA torches its rubber before rocketing down the strip. A slight delay between paddle actuation and SMG response further complicates a fast start.

In comparison, few things are simpler than launching a GT-R. Since launch control has been removed, all it takes is a bit of powerbraking to help load the transmission and build boost. Then sledgehammer the pedal and hold on.





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2012 Lexus LFA vs 2010 Nissan GT-R Comparison - Motor Trend

"What Do You Need to Determine the Street Value of a $375,000 Lexus LFA? A Dyno, Dragstrip and An $87,000 Nissan GT-R"

I just watched the Top Gear where they tested the LFA. They asked if the LFA was 3 times as fast as the GTR. Of course everyone said well.. no. Then Jeremy asked why was it 3 times as expensive. Lexus is actually losing money for every LFA they sell.

Lexus... stick to the 4 door sedans.

:shakes head: I would still take the LFA over the GTR anyday.

Man...the GT-R looks like a boat in the pics....Nissan has to go back to the designer board on the exterior of this car...

It's beside a mid engine $400,000 car. Of course it looks like a boat.

I would buy 4 GTR's and have friends drive them around with me.

LFA no doubt.

those pics hurt my eyes :\ MT used to have some great photography, but they've gotten into this washed out look now... not a fan.

the link isn't working for me!

Me? GT-R, cause lexus will never let me have one....

The price tag on the LF-A is for exclusivity and nothing else..

It is an obvious no-brainer to choose the GT-R over the LF-A as very simple mods to the first will make it considerably faster...

Nissan truly did an awesome job with the R35..

I would take the gtr over the lexus any day, more driver friendly and can take it to the track and drive on the road everyday.

Poor comparison. I'm a big GTR fan...But it should be compared to other exotics, no?

A tune, just a tune and that GTR can smoke the LFA. I'd like to see it up against exotics around it's price.

A drag race? C'Mon, MT, did all the road courses ban you?

Thank you!

The video was great... I wish that for that much you'd get a dual clutch in the LFA and all wheel drive, that'd be a monster.

i'll take the gt-r AND have enough money to buy a house. thank you lexus.

i ran a 11.3 with just an exhaust and no tune at all

he still out trapped you - but that's impressive to that much area under the curve... you are at 11.3 @ 122 he is at 11.8 @ 123 - that's a lot of ground you are making up somewhere... Wonder if its the start or mid-way through the race...

my guess is hole shot. i bet the LFA isn't the easiest car to launch vs the GTR with AWD. also i think the LFA is considerably lighter and makes more power so... GTR should loose outright but it doesn't, another testament to the almighty R35

ive trapped 123.xx a few times on a few of my 11.4-11.5 runs.. but the best ET i had was the 122.3 mph run for some reason

i think its at the start i think i had a 1.81 60ft and my 1/8th was like 7.3 or something at 96

reading the article it looked like this was a spur of the moment oppurtunity that got presented to them and they didnt have alot of time to organize it..

they did do a lateral G and a few other things around cones besides the drag

I like the Lexus wing that adjusts on-the-fly. That is a neat feature that I wouldn't mind having on the 370Z. I also like the idea of the single digital glass cockpit screen with all relevant information on the single screen. The Aviation Industry already started moving to this concept about 4 years ago, I am surprised the Auto Industry is just starting to get the idea of it.

GT-R vs LFA
 

This video is way cool!!!



Video: Motor Trend pits Lexus LFA against Nissan GT-R in epic drag race — Autoblog

I would never be caught dead or alive in a Lexus. I'm not old enough to drive a Lexus!

I saw a GTR at Nissan today that was getting an oil leak looked at. The guy had paid cash for it, then shipped it some place to have bigger turbos put on, intake, brakes and exhaust and a bunch of CF too. They said he has spent another 50K on it since buying it and that it sounds like a beast with its exhaust, not sure which one. It looked fast when I saw the engine, good to be friendly with the service mgr.

Great video. Fantastic sound coming from that LFA though...

can i be one of them? :tup:

too bad toyota won't think you're "privileged" enough to buy one :shakes head:

So I'm driving to work today, It's about 2:35 when I get to the only passing section on Santiago Canyon Road. Santiago is a 2 lane easy driving canyon road that connects S. Orange County to N./Central Orange County.

There are 6 cars ahead as I approach over a crest and no cars coming the other way so I move out to pass. I get around 4 and tuck in behind some sort of exotic. I didn't recognize it at first glance because it had black bra's over the back, but it did have some vents like a rear engine car would. It also had Michigan plates and a large antenna like a tester would. I though maybe Lambo but it had a triangle shaped exhaust outlet and 3 pipes. I peered around the front and it was trailing a Toyota Yaris hatch back so I knew it was an LFA. Looked pretty sick even with the camouflage. I took a bad pic with my Blackberry, I don't think it's worth trying to post it though...

It is always worth posting.
My view of the LFA is Toyota should have gone and did what Nissan did. Put it under 100,000 (maybe 120,000 since it is slightly better), keep the production down but do not limit anyone who wants to buy.

My Z looks like a freaking aircraft carrier when I park it every night next to a NSX in my apartment parking lot. :D

Oh and GT-R FTMFW. How can you possibly beat its bang-for-buck value and performance?

Some folks seemly forget that what numbers a car is able achieving is just one of many aspects that deem a car worthy of its price and or the victory. Yes, the GT-R puts down great numbers on the track but how does it stack up in other categories?

How rewarding is the actual driving experience?

How much fun are you having while driving the car on a daily basis and or around the race track?

How well does the car communicate with the driver?

Does the car actually engage the driver? Or is it more like the car is driving you?

I mean there are just all kinds of things to consider...

^^ some people like to say that the GTR is numb and soul-less but that just isn't the case. it's just not the italian/german thorough-bred that porsche/lambo/ferrari put out. yes many times the cars from those companies are more "thrilling" to drive but what did you expect from a country like japan?

I would still take the GT-R over the LFA... The LFA is way to Pricey for being a ferrari clone



DAN

that video makes the GT-R look good imo goes to show how amazing of a company nissan has become

as apposed to toyota who make lexus?

This is further proof why the GTR is probably the most expensive car I'd ever buy.