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UNKNOWN_370 09-18-2019 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3878550)
And I could see just fine; blind spots are similar to the Z...but I was looking straight ahead :tiphat:

The camaro 5 on the other hand. The rear was too wide compared to the mirror and the extra 2 inches of rear just made that car difficult to drive. The 6 is way better than the 5.

I'll agree without BSM, Both Camaro and Z are about equal visibility. The 6 has perfect dimensions now. It's what the 5 shouldve been.
With BSM on the camaro. It makes the camaro easier to drive than even the Z. Not to mention our 8.4" backup camera screen.

I never been in a GREAT sports car with GREAT visibility. It's almost an oxymoron to have both. I drove that Ferrari with poor visibility and I wasnt even thinking about visibility. With both Z and camaro or any truly amazing sports car. Adjust the mirrors and you're fine.

ZCanadian 09-18-2019 11:14 AM

agree - if you are buying a sports car, then visibility is way down the list of wants.
OTOH, the Camaro is quite OK as a daily driver, and if you are buying it for that purpose, then practicality / safety considerations like outward visibility become more key.

That's the problem when a model tries to be all things to all people. It usually fails at some, and gets lambasted for it.

If the car is designed as a pure sports car, then nobody seems to understand that those are NOT meant for practicality. So they get pilloried by the press as well.

Seems that manufacturers cannot really win on this. Still, I'd rather my "sports car" entry be panned for something like this, than for performance or driving dynamics any day!

UNKNOWN_370 09-18-2019 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3878649)
agree - if you are buying a sports car, then visibility is way down the list of wants.
OTOH, the Camaro is quite OK as a daily driver, and if you are buying it for that purpose, then practicality / safety considerations like outward visibility become more key.

That's the problem when a model tries to be all things to all people. It usually fails at some, and gets lambasted for it.

If the car is designed as a pure sports car, then nobody seems to understand that those are NOT meant for practicality. So they get pilloried by the press as well.

Seems that manufacturers cannot really win on this. Still, I'd rather my "sports car" entry be panned for something like this, than for performance or driving dynamics any day!

Definitely. I daily my camaro. But at 36k. It will be my weekend car if I just dont jump into a C8? So 9k to go. Its practical for what it is yet has the driving dynamics of a dedicated sports car. To compare it to the best muscle car in the game. The GTR. the Camaro has the one thing the GTR is missing! That the Z has!!!! The camaro feels really hunkered down. You feel like you're in a cave. I personally like that feeling. And my next sports car has to provide me that feeling. That's how in my book. Mustang and challenger lose. You dont feel as planted into the car as you do a camaro or Z.
The corvette alfa 4c and lotus evora do a great job at giving you a hunkered down feeling as well.

Spooler 09-18-2019 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3878546)
This 2020 model drove pretty dang good, week before last :tup:
Being nearly 6’6” & 275, those suede leather seats were very comfy.

When are you gonna get it tight wad????

UNKNOWN_370 09-18-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3878658)
When are you gonna get it tight wad????

Rent it. Peep the stats at Hertz.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...k-motorsports/

jchammond 09-19-2019 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3878658)
When are you gonna get it tight wad????

I got time; But since my back surgery- lot’s of things have changed...& helps to have a very comfortable driving car; though yours wasn’t bad @4,000#...I’d definitely need to ditch my seats & soften the suspension up some, as this one really felt like a Luxury Sports Car.
Doesn’t have quite the power as yours, but wasn’t bad :ugh2:
+ they do make a few upgrades to help with HP/TQ levels :tup:

JARblue 09-19-2019 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3878550)
And I could see just fine

Joby, I don't believe you :rofl2:

Visibility is better in the Z forward. Better in the Camaro rearward. About the same overall. IMO. YMMV.

To be clear, IDGAF about visibility for the most part. It was just something that stood out on first impressions. When I said I couldn't imagine daily driving one, I meant a Chevy :stirthepot:

UNKNOWN_370 09-19-2019 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3878776)
Joby, I don't believe you :rofl2:

Visibility is better in the Z forward. Better in the Camaro rearward. About the same overall. IMO.

:iagree:

Hard rights are difficult in the first couple months of driving a Camaro

UNKNOWN_370 10-07-2019 11:14 AM

Sacrilege
 
Poor Mustang Has The Face (And Heart) Of A Camaro


What in the FF is this???? :wtf2:

ZCanadian 10-07-2019 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3882034)
Poor Mustang Has The Face (And Heart) Of A Camaro


What in the FF is this???? :wtf2:

The last sentence, LOL:
"We’d like to know how it fares at the track, it probably still gets passed by Miatas."

UNKNOWN_370 11-01-2019 08:34 PM

Stop Sale on v6 camaro. Emissions issue.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...sale-gm-issues


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