I can stand behind your comments. I just find fun in both for different reasons. The world is made up of many flavors. At least we can all stand behind the love of the sports car. We'll some of us.... Import convert is now CUV convert. :rofl2:

If I'm hauling people around, shopping or snow, it's the Grand Cherokee. Just me and the wifey or doing trackdays, it's the Z. If I hauling stuff or off roading, it's the PowerWagon. Just me and nice weather, it's the bike. Traveling and camping, it's the motorhome. :tup: Each fills a different purpose.

Or it could just be the Power Wagon all the time! :rofl2:

I love that truck. It does everything I ask of it. It has taken me places that I would be scared to walk to. Plus it has never let me down. If I had to go to one vehicle. It would be that truck. :tup:

Same as with my Commander! That beast won't quit!

I could, but it would be a "running start" type deal probably. My drive-way is a 27-30% grade. Loose gravel. If you don't have AWD, I don't let people come down it. It keeps people out, too. They see that drop and just turn around.

That's how I felt about my 370Z's handling. It was a joke. Never owned a vehicle set up so poorly before, and I didn't like it enough to replace the suspension, which is part of why it got sold for a Jeep Grand Cherokee in 2014. The car just never really made me love it. Much better composure in the CX5's suspension.

Hold on... grade like that? And you're in Louisiana?

Dude, so much hate for the 370... but love for the CX5.

30% grade.

Loose Gravel.

Umm, he said 27 to 30% grade, not 30 degrees.
Still steep. But only about half that (16 degrees).

With loose gravel.

Yup, and at 300ft or so, paving it would cost as much as a lightly used 370z, taking drainage, grade, etc. Into consideration . So awd it is, for now.

Apologies, I moved to MO.

The 370z was nice inside, but the grindy transmission and oversprung and underdamped suspension made it something I never really loved. My cx5t has an amazing suspension and the "smartest" slushbox ive driven, along with amazing torque and great fuel economy and awd, more tech than my 2012 touring z, and a very quiet highway ride.

They probably fixed the transmission and I know 2013 got better shocks and struts, im just saying I got tired of grinding gears and skipping sideways in corners over the slightest irregularity, with my Z. Replacing it didn't bother me in the least.

Here is my drive-way:
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...84&oe=5D0CA5CC

Nice place !!
We moved to a 5ac. rural property 26 yrs. ago and never looked back, we drive through a city sub. now and it feels cramped :tiphat:

Thanks! I wanted a long list of things:

-Recent/solid construction, 15-2200sf
-2 Story/Balcony or deck
-High speed internet
-year-round water access
-Well
-Ability to hunt deer
-100 yard+ shooting lane/range
-Not to be near people

Anyway, short vid:
https://youtu.be/jtsF1TNKfJU

Even nicer in the video. :tup::tup:

Yeah.. I think I'd give up my gigabit symmetrical internet for that! Seriously!.

Well, here's what I get out here:
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8d&oe=5D4317ED

Yes, I do love it here.

Love the tranquility. Wake up and surrounded by green, water, bird's chirping....instead of lawn mowing crew, road noise, and traffic jam.

Ty, being away from people was my main goal.

*heavy breathing*

Say what? Am I the only one who caught this?

Granted, the Z isn't as crisp and tossable like an original NA or NB Miata, but a stock Z handles pretty darn good on its own.

I do agree with you 110% on one thing though, getting far far away from people and living out in the woods like that. I'd kill for that kind of living!

The responsiveness and adhesion and weighting was great. My sole complaint is how bouncy it was and how it would skitter sideways in corners even at sedate speeds if you went over expansion joints etc. It was unforgivable, imo, to have such a flaw.

Mine never did that, even with the stock base 18" wheels and tires.

Sounds more like driver error or crap tires to me with the issues you were having. And sure, compared to a bigger, heavier car, it may seem a bit bouncy. That bounce is a lot less than other sports cars I've driven or owned.

Your CX5 may have excellent AWD grip, but I guarantee it would either slide right off the road or roll over taking the same 45mph off ramp I take at well over 70mph.

I had the stock potenzas and then Pilot Super Sport. My z06 was lighter and far more responsive suspension wise, and never skittered about. As to driver error...there are only so many ways to drive over a bridege, lol

As to the cx5 and other vehicles, i noticed when driving my z06 with a g meter that at around 0.7g or so was where I typically felt safe on normal roads. Beyond that, and I worried about any gravel or a spot of oil, etc. I have no idea where I feel comfortable in the cx5 as it has no meter, but it does pretty well in the "moose test" at 77km/h. I tried to find the 370z but they didnt do one.

Again, my Z has never "skittered" over anything.

And not quite sure on the Z06 being lighter than the Z. Z06 listed at about +300 lbs over the Z.

Mine weighed 3175 on DOT scales. Didnt weigh my 370.

Your's must be a C6 then.

Correct. One of the "cars that handle like crap" according to some 370Z owners, lol!