Numbers on paper vs what it ACTUALLY is are two different things IMO. I would actually take the 4th gen Supra over the 5th gen any day.

And I've still not seen one yet. :shakes head:

Without a question I would take the new based on what Ive read and in comparison to the older model its quite an improvement. Some good reading here about the new one. Multiple links with articles. This is a good review overall of the car. One of the best Ive seen in the motoring press around the world.

From the Lightning Lap data. Impressive overall I think!! - 2020 Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium
Lap Time: 3:01.4

Through sweeping combinations, the Toyota Supra skates from track edge to track edge with the deftness of a lighter car. Slightly soft by today's standards, the suspension moves around under duress, but it communicates how close the driver is to the limit in a way the steering doesn't. In the 13 years of Lightning Lap, only two cars have run faster with less power: the Ariel Atom 3 and the KTM X-Bow, which are essentially go-karts with fun-size curb weights.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

Will be interesting to keep track of this long-term test - https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-maintenance/

You're not missing out. Think of a Z4 with different head/tail lights.

I would hope the current model of any car is an improvement compared to its predecessor. Unfortunately, IMO, Toyota teaming up with BMW is a big no-no and a no-go in my book. Car for car, I think the 4th gen supra looks better and has a lot more potential than the 5th gen.

Again, this is my opinion and I am biased on my views.

Tuners have added significant power to this motor and Toyota chose it because of the internal strength the motor comes with. I think you should drive one.

Be that as it may, but again, my personal opinion, it's a no-go. If I want to own a BMW, I'll buy a BMW. IMO, the new Supra looks like a cross-breed between the Lexus RC and BMW Z4.

I saw one in person recently. Pulled up to a local gas station. Nothing great about it. I still think Z's look way better. A lot smaller in the cabin of a supra. Not worth the Price Tag.

I really wanna like it. I mean I really do, but its just a rebadged BMW.

At this point in my life I would rather just buy the BMW.

For kicks I just built one on the Toyota website. There is no way I'm paying $56,220 before taxes for this.

I do really like this car and would totally own one if I were in the market for a sports car, but I do agree that I’d still pick the bimmer as well, I want an m2 comp or whatever they’re calling the top dog m2 in a bad way.

Doug says it got better for 2021. It's Doug Score official. But he would still rather get a competitor car.



I hope reliability and troubleshooting took strides. I mean too late that it's all BMW parts, but any semblance to Toyota reliablity would be the exceptional selling point of this car imo.

Perhaps I'll see my first Supra today???




Anyone buying this thing?

Although I'm not in the market right now, I would hold off until the new Z hits the streets. That will hopefully give this car a run for its money.

Hopefully

I have seen one in a parking lot, it looked small, when I first saw it. it was a silver color....