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m4a1mustang 12-20-2009 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 335173)
00 WS6 here I was close to...gotta LOVE that Ram Air hood :D

I think their front end looks NASTY but their rear end could use some work. Kinda looks like a Grand Prix LOL. T-tops ftw tho!
When I had my Mustang my *** used to tighten up when I saw a T/A in my rear view. Had it happen in the Z, too. Cammed T/A pulled up on my *** and it felt just like the old days.

The Z didn't stand a chance! :icon18:

blue660r01 12-20-2009 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335177)
The only downside of LRA... bumpy roads can be a little sketchy.

Although the Z isn't exactly smooth on bumpy surfaces so that just goes to show you that IRS alone won't guarantee a performance improvement. I know the Cayman beats the Z hands down in the rough-road handling / confidence inspiring department. :icon18:
I feel like I am going to break my back at times :icon17:

nogoodname 12-20-2009 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335178)
Well you're just no good, man. You said it yourself!
http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...07/eyeomfg.gif

TARDCORE 12-21-2009 12:20 AM
The price difference from what I have read won't be too bad compared to the 2010 gt. So does this mean the 2011 stang will come in 3 trims? I kinda hope this thing sells well looking forward to having more competion out there!

cow 12-21-2009 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 335069)
obviously if i had to buy a muscle car it would not be for road course perofrmance, since none of them is very good at it. being the best out of a bunch of crap performers still makes you a crap performer. obviously while the camaro has a theoretically superior suspension setup it hasnt been tuned properly by gm compared to ford's tuning of the live axle. still i'll take the camaro just to avoid the stigma of having a solid axle suspension
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r_anteater.png

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335128)
Trust me, I know. I hate brand-whores like nothing else.

Really, I am just out to defend the truth like most everyone else in this thread that can recognize a good car when they see it.
Agreed.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335142)
That is one of the things that really annoys me about car people. People have a tendency to compare their car to cars in different classes. We see it here all the time and it's very annoying.

Put simply, the Mustang is NOT a sports car. The Mustang is a muscle car or sports coupe, however you want to phrase it. The Z is a sports car. They just don't compare.

I don't care if they have roughly the same power and are about as fast as one another... they aren't in the same class.
Completely agreed.

blue660r01 12-21-2009 09:35 AM
lol @ the anteater

ChrisSlicks 12-21-2009 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 335167)
The Camaro was on a consistent sales decline, sadly, for the final run of the 4th gens. The Mustangs have almost always had solidly selling V6 versions.
It's all about the price point. The V6 Mustang keeps hitting the magic price point, the Camaro's keep overshooting it slightly. I like the new design of both vehicles although I think the Camaro is physically too big, if they shrunk some of that sheet metal it would also loose a few pounds.

Lug 12-21-2009 11:05 AM
My problem with the camaro was that it simply was the worst car I've ever owned from a maintenance point of view. I had a 1995 and dumped more money into it trying to keep it running than all my other cars combined (6 fords and a nissan). Th engine was bulletproof but everything around it just kept breaking. I hope the new camaro fairs better but the old one was just an absolute hunk of junk.

MightyBobo 12-21-2009 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 335781)
It's all about the price point. The V6 Mustang keeps hitting the magic price point, the Camaro's keep overshooting it slightly. I like the new design of both vehicles although I think the Camaro is physically too big, if they shrunk some of that sheet metal it would also loose a few pounds.
I dont disagree at all - many people buy for the image alone, so they simply bought the cheaper fake muscle car - so, the V6 it was lol.

KingDavid 12-21-2009 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 334745)
Why are we comparing a 5.0 V8 mustang to the Z.... Lol
compare it to the V6 model stang
You're not serious, are you?

frost 12-21-2009 12:41 PM
What's the point of this thread again, I forgot?

MightyBobo 12-21-2009 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by frost (Post 335901)
What's the point of this thread again, I forgot?
Mustangs suck and IRS' will rule the world.

NYBladeZ 12-21-2009 12:58 PM
hey can't knock the truth, live axle sucks

Lug 12-21-2009 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by frost (Post 335901)
What's the point of this thread again, I forgot?
Cars that dominate the really tight turn radius tracks like EVO's, WRX's and the like suck. Cars that do the best on a medium track with some straights but not too much rule, like the 370Z, and cars that do well on tracks with very long straights and few turns or strips like the 2011 Mustang is most likely to do suck. Simple really.......







:D

frost 12-21-2009 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 335909)
Mustangs suck and IRS' will rule the world.
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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 335918)
Cars that dominate the really tight turn radius tracks like EVO's, WRX's and the like suck. Cars that do the best on a medium track with some straights but not too much rule, like the 370Z, and cars that do well on tracks with very long straights and few turns or strips like the 2011 Mustang is most likely to do suck. Simple really.......




:D
10-4, thanks for the executive summary :tiphat: :icon17:

NYBladeZ 12-21-2009 01:02 PM
I've owned 3 Mustangs, 00 v6, 88 GT 5-speed (5.0), 04 GT. I also drove the 04 Cobra on multiple occasions and I can testify that no matter what your motor makes live axle is limiting period. I used to be like a few people posting on there that support the live axle but no matter what it's just not fun. It is also limiting on a everyday drive. If you travel on a highway that is made up of a series of large curves a la wangtagh highway, southern state parkway for those of you familiar with Long Island, NY. On highways like that you can feel the limitations on a Mustang. My 2004 GT had springs shocks and struts and I would still have problems through the turns against 5 series BMW's. You will let off the gas or you will lose control and it's all because of your live axle. So in the end, make all the power you want on the back straights you'll catch up but you will feel your handling limitations everyday. Trust me...I've been there and I've seen the light!

shabarivas 12-21-2009 01:05 PM
The very fact that this thread has racked up 12 pages so quickly just shows that people in here are insecure about other cars being faster than our Zs... grow up - they will keep getting faster and better - enjoy your car and DRIVE :)

frost 12-21-2009 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 335944)
The very fact that this thread has racked up 12 pages so quickly just shows that people in here are insecure about other cars being faster than our Zs... grow up - they will keep getting faster and better - enjoy your car and DRIVE :)
Does this also correlate to manhood size?

AndyO 12-21-2009 01:21 PM
Cow can you ban pharmasist for being an idiot troll.

frost 12-21-2009 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyO (Post 335982)
Cow can you ban pharmasist for being an idiot troll.
We start banning trolls here, nogood, kdo, and I would be the first to go.

Pharmacist 12-21-2009 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyO (Post 335982)
Cow can you ban pharmasist for being an idiot troll.
i see you drive a 05 350z. so u don't even drive a 04.5 touring coupe?!?!?!?!?! now shut up and :gtfo2:

G37Sam 12-21-2009 06:19 PM
I was really hoping this thread wouldn't go there as I was enjoying the constructive & mature arguments.. Ah well..

Fact: Two of my friends totalled their Stangs due to losing control last year..

Here's one of them:

He's invested quite a lot in it but unfortunately none of his mods were insured.. mods include (mufflers,intakes,delete plates,coilovers and an ECU reflash)

Thank God nothing happened to him.. he was doing around 70-80 coming from a tunnel to a traffic light and was surprised by a car doing like 10 in front of him, switched lanes too quick and what do you know

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/q...67082_3312.jpg

theDreamer 12-21-2009 06:24 PM
Hey Sam, quick question for you, did you recently "race" a 2010 Mustang over there?

G37Sam 12-21-2009 06:29 PM
I've test driven one, not raced with one though.. why do you ask?

MightyBobo 12-21-2009 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 336333)
Fact: Two of my friends totalled their Stangs due to losing control last year..
Do you honestly think an IRS would have saved them?

theDreamer 12-21-2009 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 336342)
I've test driven one, not raced with one though.. why do you ask?
One of my co-workers mentioned someone in Duabi who has a 2010 was running a "new" G37S, I knew you were there so just checking if it was you. On a side note, the G one because apparently the Mustang was brand new and he did not push it very hard.

G37Sam 12-21-2009 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 336345)
Do you honestly think an IRS would have saved them?
Not necessarily the IRS, but I'm saying improved handling (suspension) in general. The one in the pic I'm pretty definite. I was once doing around 90 on the highway (still under speed limit btw) and a cat jumped in front of me out of nowhere, steered away so fast the tail went loose a little but was held easily (could've been the LSD, could've been traction control.. but doesn't the stang come with all those goodies too?)

G37Sam 12-21-2009 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 336347)
One of my co-workers mentioned someone in Duabi who has a 2010 was running a "new" G37S, I knew you were there so just checking if it was you. On a side note, the G one because apparently the Mustang was brand new and he did not push it very hard.
Haha interesting.. well if that G was loud then it probably was me :bowrofl:

theDreamer 12-21-2009 06:41 PM
I believe they said the G had exhaust/intake/etc.
Not sure on any other info, just wanted to check to see if you had been messing with any 2010 Mustangs. :p

MightyBobo 12-21-2009 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 336348)
Not necessarily the IRS, but I'm saying improved handling (suspension) in general. The one in the pic I'm pretty definite. I was once doing around 90 on the highway (still under speed limit btw) and a cat jumped in front of me out of nowhere, steered away so fast the tail went loose a little but was held easily (could've been the LSD, could've been traction control.. but doesn't the stang come with all those goodies too?)
Both situations, you're talking about going a RIDICULOUS speed on public roads though...90 for you, 70-80 for the other guy. No, 70-80 isn't necessarily terrible, but performing a maneuver like the one he did is stupid. Either way, it sounds like driver error to me, and just general stupidity - particularly on your buddies part. Traveling that kind of speed without any idea whats in front of you (ESPECIALLY in the damned middle east - drivers over there are freaking retarded. Ask me how I know.) is just ASKING for trouble.

Furthermore, I think its worthy saying - if you try to steer your car like that at the speeds you were going because of nothing more than a cat? Well...you're asking for trouble, too, and I'd never trust myself to drive in a vehicle with you.

G37Sam 12-21-2009 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 336366)
Both situations, you're talking about going a RIDICULOUS speed on public roads though...90 for you, 70-80 for the other guy. Either way, it sounds like driver error to me, and just general stupidity - particularly on your buddies part. Traveling that kind of speed without any idea whats in front of you (ESPECIALLY in the damned middle east - drivers over there are freaking retarded. Ask me how I know.) is just ASKING for trouble.
We were both driving under the speed limit ridiculous or not, that's besides the point anyways. I'm just pointing out how both cars reacted to sudden and quick lane change not asking for a moral lecture.

Saying Middle Eastern Drivers are retarded though, well I wouldn't wanna go there. I've been to the US and seen how the average Joe drives, and I've seen how US drivers drive in Dubai but will keep comments to myself in attempt to keep this thread on topic and not offend anyone on here lol

SmoothZ 12-21-2009 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 331908)
We should just forget about it. This is a 370Z forum so naturally there will be a lot of domestic hate. It just so happens that Pharmacist falls under the "moronic domestic hate" category.

It goes the same way on the Mustang boards... Only a handful of guys there are willing to recognize the capabilities of the 370.

The car guys here appreciate just about every car and know that the Mustang is a formidable track and strip car. The 2010 GT with Track Pack (i.e. Sport Package) is a formidable base for a track car -- .94 G on relatively skinny tires, 70 mph slalom... it's a very good car. Obviously it's not as track oriented as the smaller, 2-seat 370, but in the right hands I am absolutely positive a 2010 GT could school some bench racing, trash talking 370 driver on any track.

I'm sure the more technically oriented guys here will agree that this board has its share of bench racers and trash talkers who couldn't drive a 6MT to a 14 second quarter mile time if their lives depended on it.
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 331925)
The live axle argument is old and tired.

You obviously don't see the reason for keeping it so it's probably not worth explaining it to you, but against better judgment I will make an attempt anyways:

The majority of Mustang enthusiasts like to drag race their cars.

It's that simple. If enthusiast owners predominately preferred to track their cars, it would have an IRS.
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 331932)
I am just a car enthusiast in general... I have no brand allegiances. And likewise, I am too stubborn to back away from the bench racing drivel. I always have to jump in and at least make it known that their words are nothing more than hate of a certain brand thinly veiled by their misinterpretation of their own understanding of how anything actually works.

:stirthepot:
+1 rep for good posts.

nogoodname 12-21-2009 07:23 PM
:roflpuke2::inoutroflpuke::roflpuke2: :inoutroflpuke:


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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 336323)
i see you drive a 05 350z. so u don't even drive a 04.5 touring coupe?!?!?!?!?! now shut up and :gtfo2:


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