Originally Posted by frost (Post 334884)

I think it will be interesting, not sure I'd lay money on the stang. Camaro comes with 426 (curb weight 3849) in the 2SS. Although I cant find any news on what the new tires will be, the camaro runs 275s in the rear. The latest stangs have been running skinnier than that, which would give the maro a slight advantage hooking up (if they remain with the skinnier tires).
Good to see both brands at it though, no matter who would win!

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 335104)

they don't all Suk

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 335077)

Its relevant because you're thumbing your nose about "ancient" technology, except that you aren't even pushing your newer technology to a point that the old **** couldn't handle also. You probably putt around town, go to work and go golfing - how could a live axle NOT meet those requirements?

The argument is perfectly relevant, because it shows your complete ignorance. MANY people have successfully raced live axle cars.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335112)

Exactly.

He issues blanket statements based solidly in his unreasonable perception of truth. If it's not at the forefront of automotive technology, it's inferior... period! It can't perform! It's not worthy! End of story.

He ignores all fact and substitutes reality with the one that suits his opinions best. Even though Mustangs prove themselves time and time again on the strip and track, in his world they can't make a corner without spinning out. It's obvious that in his world, competitive road racing sanctioning bodies like Grand Am don't exist where Mustangs compete against the likes of Porsche, Corvette, Viper, etc, and win on a regular basis.

It's not like the 1960's era Mustangs don't dominate Porsches of the 70s and 80s in HSR competition.

It's not like the Mustang chassis was redesigned from the ground up in 2005 featuring modern components, including a modern iteration of a proven live axle design!

That's right, folks... that old adage, "if it isn't broken, don't fix it," it doesn't exist! Not in this drug store, anyways.

It's pretty obvious that we have reached the point where ignorance trumps logic. Although we fight the good fight, the right fight, we can't win. It's like the "buyout" episode of The Office: If the Michael Scott Paper Company fails, Michael Scott will open another paper company the next day, and the next day, and the next day. Why? Because business isn't about money.

Folks, in his world, reality is not about truth, it's about misguided opinion.

Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 335111)

The red ones suck ! ... Lol

Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 335116)

I read over the quick. If you are trying to say the Mustang handles well I disagree. My roomate has a 06 and I think the handling is ****. The thing feels like a damn boat to me.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335118)

Of course it's going to feel like a boat coming from a Z!

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335118)

Of course it's going to feel like a boat coming from a Z!

It also depends on whether you have driven a track-pack 2010 or not. Those are actually very nice. Not as stiff as the Z for obvious reasons but much stiffer and tighter than standard.

Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 335121)

I added more too :p

But in all honesty. I would rather rock a Camaro than the new Stang. To each his own though. I really am NOT a fan of the styling Ford went with. I think the Camaro looks so much more aggressive. Also, dealing with people in person who are on Fords nuts 24/7 like its the greatest thing on earth will put hate in your heart also.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335128)

Trust me, I know. I hate brand-whores like nothing else.

Really, I am just out to defend the truth like most everyone else in this thread that can recognize a good car when they see it.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335128)

Trust me, I know. I hate brand-whores like nothing else.

Really, I am just out to defend the truth like most everyone else in this thread that can recognize a good car when they see it.

Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 335123)

lol my roomate tried to brag to me saying that the new mustang gt hit the skidpad better than a 350z. I told him its nothing to brag about if its true that I hope a 2011 car could do better than a 03 :p

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335142)

That is one of the things that really annoys me about car people. People have a tendency to compare their car to cars in different classes. We see it here all the time and it's very annoying.

Put simply, the Mustang is NOT a sports car. The Mustang is a muscle car or sports coupe, however you want to phrase it. The Z is a sports car. They just don't compare.

I don't care if they have roughly the same power and are about as fast as one another... they aren't in the same class.

One is a street car that works the everyday with ease and can run the strip or track just fine (and can be modded either way, too).

The other is a track car that's been ported over for street use, too. You can throw your golf bag in the hatch but it doesn't really work for daily use unless you're some crazy enthusiast like a lot of us are.

Compare the Mustang to the Camaro.

Compare the Z to a Cayman.

Don't compare the two. It doesn't work that way.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335142)

That is one of the things that really annoys me about car people. People have a tendency to compare their car to cars in different classes. We see it here all the time and it's very annoying.

Put simply, the Mustang is NOT a sports car. The Mustang is a muscle car or sports coupe, however you want to phrase it. The Z is a sports car. They just don't compare.

I don't care if they have roughly the same power and are about as fast as one another... they aren't in the same class.

One is a street car that works the everyday with ease and can run the strip or track just fine (and can be modded either way, too).

The other is a track car that's been ported over for street use, too. You can throw your golf bag in the hatch but it doesn't really work for daily use unless you're some crazy enthusiast like a lot of us are.

Compare the Mustang to the Camaro.

Compare the Z to a Cayman.

Don't compare the two. It doesn't work that way.

Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 335138)

If you had to deal with what I did, you would hate the Mustang too. These kids make it out to be better than a ******* supercar :icon18:

Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 335138)

The Mustang is known as a drag car, thats all.

Originally Posted by blue660r01

I do find it funny however, that the 370z can currently beat the Mustang out of a V6 (pre 5.0). Japanese engineering > American.

Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 335144)

We are on the same page.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335150)

This is a common misconception. The Mustang was never intended as a drag car. It just so happened that drag racing is a very popular facet of American car culture. In reality, the car was designed as a sporty coupe and could really do anything the owner wanted to do with it.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335160)

So I re-read some of my posts and feel like I need to apologize.

Pharmacist, while I disagree with your stance on this subject, it does not merit personal attacks. I do apologize for my assault on your integrity. I am a passionate car guy and lets just say it's easy sometimes to get carried away.

I do not intend harm. At the end of the day we are all on the same team... we own Z's because we are Z enthusiasts and that alone should be enough for us to be able to get along even when we disagree.

Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 335121)

I think the Camaro looks so much more aggressive.

Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 335162)

I agree somewhat. Yeah it was kinda meant for daily driving also.....but damn that rear end kills it!!!

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335165)

One of the reasons for the great success of the Mustang is this right here.

It was never quite as edgy as the Camaro/Firebird... especially in the 90s and early 2000s. But it appealed to more people than the F-bodies so that's why they died in '03 and the Mustang kept going.

Now that the Camaro is back we will see how it all shakes out.

Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 335168)

To be honest with ya....I would take a 00 style TA/Camaro SS over the 06 style Stang.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335166)

I don't like how they angled the corners in on the new ones. It's just weird.

Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 335163)

yay!

z's not g's!

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 335170)

I almost bought a black 2002 Trans-Am WS6 a few years ago. They look so tacky and badass at the same time. :icon18:

Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 335171)

Not sure.....but the previous one feels like the damn Fox bodies. Every ddamn bump you hit it feels like the car is going to run off the road lol

Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 335172)

:mad: hating ur own kind :shakes head: