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Ha. Forget the Z35, I still think the Z34 is a beautiful car. Nissan should just do something like the 07-08 350z. Put in the VR30ddtt (fix the issues first), carry over the digital suspension from the Q50/60, pair it to the 6MT and call it a day. Sure people will bitch about the interior but ****, give me those options as a Nismo model and damn I'm a happy guy.

I said before. By 2025. We won't be driving much and most cars will be electric. By 2030. All cars will be driverless and electric. So that is no insensitive to developed a new gas or electric powered sports car.

Something to think about electric cars. They need to be plugged in and charged. That means the electric grid has to be up-graded to handle the extra load. Look at Puerto Rico. The grid is down for months. That can happen here. Also, When the battery goes bad in an electric car. What do you do? The battery is the car. It's half the cost of the car. :shakes head:

This looks like a white text on black background introduction to 80's scifi movie.

I know. The sad part is that we are being pushed in that direction. If we like it or not. :shakes head:

Is it going to be a juke hybrid nismo type r spec v.2

I heard something about a Pinto. with cheese

Well F*** Nissan. I wish they would focus more on their sports cars (the Z and GTR) :( Well I'm definitely going to hold on to my Z tight and keep her around. The future is going to go downhill for cars I feel

How do you like your Pinto toast? With melted cheese too?

I think that electric is coming, but I'm not sure that it will come so soon. If you haven't been following, Mazda believes they have mastered a gas-powered engine that uses pressure, not spark to ignite and thus burns cooler and more efficient. Like a 30-40% increase in efficiency. That keeps gas on the road for a while. (although let's not count chickens, it will be a year or two before Mazda either puts up or shuts up)

On the bright side, electric cars have all their torque at 1 rpm so starts from stops will be much faster.

Sometimes I think fondly that the kids will all be driving electric and only some eccentrics like me keep driving their gas cars, and they wonder why we're so happy to pay $0.50/gallon when electric is almost free.

Writing is on the wall. Electric is here. The public is being forced into this. Mazda's engine is a short term solution until they get their electric program together. Look at all the hybids that are here and coming. Those are short term solutions too. It's all geopolitical. Countries are outlawing gas and diesel engines by 2030 already. I see no reason for Nissan to develope another gas engine sports car that may be outlawed in a few years by some countries.

2022, not 2017 for some of that. :icon14:

does it have more stripes? or is it a friggin newer versa, sentra, leaf, or altima? Wait! A new $135,000 GTR! What happened to the cars for us little people? Add stripes, make it yellow and keep it at the same old 332 hp! So lame! Nissan needs to get their **** together. A concept car doesn't mean anything until it goes to mass production. they suck!

In some ways. I almost understand why Nissan bytched up... But not really.

I keep going back to when this forum started out and all the people that traded out of a Z either one or two years later and their complaints.

I felt 70% of the complaints were pretty stupid because they were based on unreasonable, bias comparisons of price competitive vehicles, but the cars had a totally different drive philosophy.

Too many people were saying stupid Shyt like, the Z should have a v8 instead of acknowledging the Z heritage and at minimum ask for an inline 6. That's Z heritage, not a v8.

People bought sport models and expected them to be track cars. Too many people didn't understand where the dollar value in the nismo was.

The FM platform was becoming outdated, the engine was too course, and Nissan was slow to fix real problems. Yes, all that is true. But the Z was being singled out by consumers. It seems people forgive American car companies for being totally shytty vs Japan.

I'm sure all of that frustrated Nissan leaving them confused. The public was asking for the Nissan corvette in a Porsche Cayman body. Expectations were excessively high for Nissan. People wanted a Z32 incarnate I guess. Wouldn't we all. But the reaction and overall expectationswere ludacris.

So now... Us real Z fanatics are not gettinga Z35?