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ZCanadian 08-08-2017 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3683232)
Love the 4c, but isn't the gear box straight from the dodge dart?

Well, that's a bit of artistic license. It is true that the same DCT was available on one model Dart. The engine is a sleeved version of the same powerplant as the Giulietta QV. The heater controls are from a Fiat Punto. The list goes on. It just seems that there's a fair bit of symbiosis going on here, as none of the above are a patch on the 4C. And the larger volume / alternate applications of these parts means that a replacement isn't going to cost Ferrari (or even Mercedes) money.

UNKNOWN_370 08-08-2017 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3683232)
Love the 4c, but isn't the gear box straight from the dodge dart?

At the end of the day, it's how the transmission has been reinforced and tuned. Not how many or the type models just so happen to have it.

The Genesis coupe has a Maserati ZF n no one gives a shyt. All they see is Hyundai. Feel me?

ZCanadian 08-09-2017 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3683461)
At the end of the day, it's how the transmission has been reinforced and tuned. Not how many or the type models just so happen to have it.

The Genesis coupe has a Maserati ZF n no one gives a shyt. All they see is Hyundai. Feel me?

Don't know if the tranny has been changed, but yes tuned for the application.
And a car is a lot more than just one part. If the Dart had been on the diet that Alfa gave the 4C, and also had its engine/turbo/ECU, mid-engine layout, brakes, suspension, dimensions, ride height, seating position, steering rack, and lack of cup holders, navi system or rear seats, then it would be an equally raw, sports-driving experience. I'd buy one in a heartbeat (for Dart money, LOL).

That's why, to me, the loss of the traditional 3-pedal manual is not that big a deal. Sure, it means something to be able to do a series of perfect shifts. But, if car makers can give you something else in exchange to augment the experience, then maybe it's time for that. One last hurrah, before we're all sentenced to self-driving monotony cells.

UNKNOWN_370 08-09-2017 03:25 PM

The 4c is the MR2 of our generation.... except on steroids


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