Talk me out of a Z06 please
 

I can't get the new Z06 out of my head. Im not big into american cars or american muscle. I currently have a boosted Nismo Z putting down 500+ at the wheels and I'm still paying on it but its getting close to paid for. Am I crazy for thinking about selling it for a Z06? And before anyone says it yes I could afford a new Z06 but obviously the payments would be a hell of a lot more than my current Z payments. Another factor is my Z will be due for emissions testing in a year and a half and theres not a chance in hell it will pass so I would have to get creative with that. What would you guys do??

Keep what you have and figure out a way (temporary or not) to get it to pass smog testing. It's almost paid off and is a much better looking car (my opinion of course).

Get the Z06, that's one hell of a car. I was entertaining the same car a few months ago, but they insulted me with the offer they wanted to give me for my NISMO so I told them to F$#* off and haven't looked at another on since.

Keep the Z and buy the Z06. Then you'd have 2Z's in the stable


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Of course they are going to low-ball the hell out of a Japanese sports car. Personally, I wouldn't give them two cents for a Vette, ZO6 or not. The back ends of them are ugly, and the interior is absolutely hideous with very cheap looking materials used.

If I had a new ZO6 and base Z sitting in front of me, free for me to take, I'd gladly take the base Z every time. It's a hell of a lot better looking car inside and out.

Again, all of this just my opinion, however many agree with me.

get it. it's a much better car than the z

A base Z over a Z06???
No way in HELL bro, I'd give up mine any day if it were car for car.

Vettes are for old white males popping penis pills trying to re live their youth. If you fit the description then buy it /thread. Hope that's enough persuasion for ya.

;) forgot to add this emoticon before a bunch of oldies get upset with me :rofl2:

The Z06 is on a different level. If you can afford it, get it. However, for that price, is it truly the best car you can get? Would you consider a used 911 Carrera or GT-R? Perhaps a new M4?

There's nothing out there that with match the overall performance of a ZO6 dollar for dollar.
I like the M4, but it's a joke for that price and performance.

those new vettes are FUGLY, those batman rear lights gotta go

i read somewhere that they're working on a mid engine vette, it maybe a few years off but maybe worth waiting.

someone had one in MAZOC during the zdayz. we cruised a lot (he broke my dragon cherry and also witnessed a true muffler delete z on stillen's haha) and had the pleasure of watching the thing move.

let's just say it's better than the Z. it's like comparing uh... the Miata to a z like the z is to a z06.

sort of like Miata's can twirl easier than z's.

the z will get all fk me dirty while the z06 sits glued.

if you can get a z06, go get it.

and the mid engine should come out in 2017 i believe. to lazy to look for the article right now. within the next year or so my plan is to get a z06

c7 z06 is one of the most well thought out cars under 100k ever. Every corner and vent has some kind of cooler built in. it is insane fast from factory, and easily upgradeable (Supercharged V8 LSx need I say more).

I was considering what to buy next this summer the Z06 definitely made the top of the list. Came down to used 911 turbo or z06 vette. Then I decided to double down on my 370z.

I walked away from the z06 for two reasons... 1) vettes are all over the place. yea i know it a z06 is the hotness 2) they have a lot of social stigma associated with them. yes i am petty enough to care. 3) that rear end is hideous (functional but hideous). Can I get some round lights?!?!

I'd decided on the 911 turbo, based on 1) it is a $%"·$% Porsche 2) the more compact feel and design of the car made it feel right.

Then decided to stay with the Z for now, until I can afford the GT3rs I really want in 3-4 years.

Anyway, I digress. In short, if you are looking for best bang for the buck performance, and are willing to overlook the other factors others and I have mentioned. Then z06 is the way to go, hands down.

Get the vette. When I was shopping for my Z, I also thought about a C6... The ONLY thing that stopped me from it is that I live in Tampa and everyone seems to have one here and that turns me off.

Something's got to come to the rescue of the US manufacturing sector, so, yes, BUY IT!

You have hydraulic steering in your Z and loads of feedback. You'd be trading it for a numb mobile in terms of steering feel.

It's steamboat long compared to a Z.

No handbrake

That's the best I got.

I was recently in a similar boat as you.

I was looking at the base vette though, not a Z06. Annnnd, I ended up in a Porsche. No regrets.

If your budget is approx 100k and you care about warranty.. check out a 981 GT4 Cayman. Not as fast as a Z06 but an amazing track car and the quality all around is above the Chevy, I would go that option. Or wait for the 718 GTS/GT4.

If you don't care about warranty..
1 - 991 Carrera Turbos can be found about the same price as the Z06 and have equal or better performance
2 - 981 Cayman S or GTS, turbo it for ~$10k (TPC racing) and you'll have 450+ crank hp in a mid engine sub 3000 pound car
3 - 981 Cayman base, drop a Carerra S motor in it (BGB motorsports) for again, over 400 crank hp, but no turbo lag in a mid engine 3000 pound car
4 - base C7 vette, supercharge it

If you are going just for the 'neighbourhood bragging rights and the 'c0(k measuring' campaign then go for it! The Z06 is an awesome vehicle. But price of maintanence and insurance are not cheap. Also, considering stringent speed limits in most of North America, are you really ever going to utilize it to it's full potential? I also had an opportunity to get a Vette before I bought my Z. I opted to go with a Z simply because I preferred the handling and aesthetics of the Z. Good luck with your decision.

Don't want to loosen the string on a bag of worms here but maybe hold off to see if/what the new Z might look like and have under the hood...
... lets not get into the rumours, just a thought

Can I just ask. is the motor stock in the nismo with the turbo? Im thinking of putting one in my 2010 nismo ,but I dont want to do motor work.

I was going to say, get the Z06 until I read, Z in the 6's post.

Your Z will be paid off shortly and save a few bucks. If the new Z underwhelms or takes too long to come out, then you'll even have more $$ saved for the Z06.

As an ex GM tech up to last year I would ask what is most important to you? Being the fastest or being fast enough and reliable. Not sure your history of the z but it's generally a very reliable car as most Asian are. GM can not say the same (trust me I was the guy doing a lot of those recalls). Also while you may be able to afford the z06 and its payments the upkeep for owning one will not be the same. Those tires alone cost a fortune and the rims have a stupid internal design that most shops can not even change the tires on (our dealer couldn't, 3 other designated tire shops couldn't and we had to take it to California wheels who do a lot of specialty wheels, put it in their cage and inflate with about 150 psi to seat the beads, cheatah bead blaster won't work).

Cool car and fast for the money but I would never ever ever own American or German after working in the field. Just my opinion.

Also if you can afford a z06 wouldn't a GTR be in range?

Oh also if you track your car be ready for oil consumption. Already a bulletin posted by GM that oil consumption and oil in the intake is normal for "aggressive driving" and you will need to replace the air filter after such event since it will become oil soaked after sitting and all the oil from the PCV runs down into it, saw it first hand with a new stingray (not the same as the z06 but similar enough that I would not be surprised).

If I did get one I would lease one and turn it back in in 3 years, not finance it. So factory warranty the whole time

Id be interested in a mid engine vette. if only they go back to roundish taillights, no batwings

That's fine but you still have the hastle of having to take it in often and not sure if the lease will cover the oil, air filter if needing to be done before "schedule" as they classify the maintenance plan for normal driving and not "spirited/track". Also lease doesn't cover the tires so that's still on you. To me it's just more hastle than it's worth but that's me. Also do they even lease the z06? Other final thought you can't mod a leased vehicle and with a 500hp turbo z are you sure you'll be able to live with a factory car for 3 years and not get bit by the mod bug?

Just my thoughts. It is a fast, fun car though.

I'm actually a bit disappointed at the lack of feedback in my Z. It's there, but it's definitely numb on-center, and subtle for the rest of the range.

Admittedly, it's subjective. It could be the immense arm-strength I posses talking ... (LOL).

So, you think you'd rather drive a plastic bodied car vs aluminum/steel? As mentioned above, the insurance will absolutely HAMMER you every month/3 months/6 months, depending on your policy arrangements. Not fun when you're writing out bills. And also as mentioned above, there are articles/ConsumerReports that warn about reliability issues. If these weren't issues, it would certainly be one of the quickest cars out there, except for the GTR and the Tesla Model S with "Ludicrous" mode. Bottom line, there will always be a faster car out there....
BTW, they've been talking about a mid-engined Vette for several years. Still not here, haven't seen anything about one coming out soon either

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http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...te-Z06-129.jpg

Everyone knows Z06 okay yea supercharged cool awesome power and everything but a boosted Z you don't see those around much often. So question is you wanna be a basic Z06 or a awesome boosted 370z 😎

Seems like a lot of sour grapes from the Z crowd. Why's it so hard to admit that a car that costs 2x as much as yours just might be better?:rolleyes:

If u can't buy it cash u can't "afford" it. Payoff ur z and drive it 5 yrs from da day u pay it off.

K&N filter and charger kit should fix that.

Better is subjective to the driving experience you're looking for. To me, the more analog a car feels, the better. I don't care if the best performance car is completely electronic. I'd choose the less expensive analog car.

I like for my senses to be connected to the car. I hate muted cars. In my opinion. Adding tons of horses doesn't compensate for the numbness... On the other hand zero torque but great handling is equally annoying. The Z is visceral and balanced. It's unique in feel.

Corvette is Bad ***.... but I love my Z for what it is. Nothing more, nothing less.

You would need an oil catch can system for that. Strange they don't have these as OEM equipment, now that the piston rings are low tension in performance engines to reduce friction.

http://oilcatchcan.com/oil-catch-can-benefits/

I 100% hear what you're saying (I do own a Ducati instead of a UJM that would have been 2/3 the price and probably slightly faster). However, I'm hearing a bunch of excuses from Z owners along the lines of "ours looks better, ours is cheaper, blah blah blah...." the same Z owners who then turn around and say "what about a GT-R if you want to spend that kind of money?" Talk about a disengaged, unexciting-looking car... and the 'Vette is still cheaper. By a lot. Like you could have a Z06 AND a 370Z for the cost of one of those things these days.:icon14:

I don't like brand loyalists who are unwilling to admit that their particular car isn't the best thing since sliced bread in every category. It reeks of butthurt.

As a side note the Z has zero torque IMO. I came from Mustangs though so my opinion is skewed. I bought the Z for its looks and handling characteristics more than anything. And for the fact that the nismo (at the time) didn't come in AT so I wouldn't have to worry about people who can't drive owning one.:stirthepot:

:icon17: Funny fanboy....:excited:

I'm a finance manager for a dealership lol I think I know what I can afford

for me it has nothing to do with fan boy ism, this is my first Nissan and so far I love it but I also liked the Acuras I worked on when I worked for them. For me I know GM quality first hand and it's just not that great. I would rather pay the extra $$ up front than deal with it later on the back end. If not owning then sure maybe it would be a cool car to be on loan for a few years and turn it in but I don't lease cars so that's out of the question. Just as an example just wait till the fuel level sensors crap out, which will happen multiple times throughout the life of the vehicle as GM cant make a fuel pump or level sensor to save their life, and guess who is the only manufacture to not have a fuel pump access door? you guessed it Chevy. So now it takes about 15-18hrs labor to drop the tanks which requires dropping the sub frame and trans just to change level sensors. Genius design huh.