Depending on the price I think im in for one to lool! :bowrofl:

Looks great IMO

https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-toyota...ous-1831658448

I still need to see one in person.

maybe i'll take some vaca next week and head to detroit lol

:iagree: That's what I have been saying sense the first spy shot was taken.

hmmm i mean public part of Detroit is on the weekend......lol

Ill be having fun beating the new z4's I mean supra's with my gt2 :)

solid chance my Z can keep up with them :wtf2:

sad thing is, many cars can nowadays

It's just price I'm not into. Like the performance can be what it is, but it's hard to justify paying that much for it unless reviews reveal it's an absolute all-time godsend driving experience.

I mean there's C7's and used Viper's that will float around the price of a loaded model.

I can't imagine that being a worthwhile jump from the Z, and it also has to compete with the Cayman to some degree. Can only hope it's not like the NSX, which relies on a bunch of...intangibles of careful engineering that apparently the average Joe is not sold on.

Also keep in mind that once it hit's the showroom floor, I can guarantee it will have a premium attached to the MSRP!!! :tup:

Oh I'm sure. Toyota Honda and Ford love to markup. Ford is just straight rape . I mighta considered a gt350 If it wasn't for the rapetastic markup.. 45k Honda civic? I can't believe dudes actually did it for a civic. Lol

They had $5000 mark ups on the FRS for the first few months. Anyone who paid over 30k for a new frs was a moron. Lol.

Markups are queer things. They are mainly dealership add-on’s. Yet often-times most of the dealerships in a region strangely do the same thing (even if they are not owned by the same parent). Must be a coincidence, right???

Why the manufacturer condones it, I’ll never understand. They manage costs on manufacturing in order to hit a price point, just to hand more profit to the dealers and potentially kill a well managed product launch. Or in the case of the 4C, a brand re-launch! We saw $20K “market adjustments” from most So-Cal stores when that car launched. Seems that they forgot about the internet, as a year later most of those cars were still on showroom floors whereas dozens of California owners bought from out of state for tens of thousands less.

OTOH, consider that the market value of ANY new car is what you could re-sell it for a block away from picking it up at the dealership. Under that lense, almost every car has excessive markup.

Nobody is going to cross-shop a Toyota against a Cayman. I feel sick to think a used Viper either, although that’s maybe not impossible. Given the stats, it’s a 370Z 10 years too late. Sure, it has potential to up the performance, but so does the Z. And we KNOW what the transmission choices on the Nissan are.

Keen on seeing reports on the release. Anyone who goes, please post impressions.

Official leaked photos, starting price is 49k for base seems reasonable, only question they do not state of being a manual being offered? Silver looks killer on the new supra.

https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/20...oduction-form/

That interior is a cookie cutter same as of the majority of new cars out there, not to my liking.

I like the interior because I'm a fan of spartan things (hence buying a Z), but that's not a $50k dash. It reminds me of a my 2005 Mazda3. Then again, perhaps those are the things they're doing to keep the price down.

That said I still want one if it drives anything like an 86 with power.

Love the seats.

I look forward to what the facelift updates looks like. You know they're planning various special editions.