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FPenvy 12-18-2015 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3370739)
That would be soo insane... Not a lot of high revving turbos out there. With the right exhaust note... This car will be most desirable

by right exhaust you mean 3" straight pipe :excited:

FPenvy 12-18-2015 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kzonts (Post 3370740)
I'm hoping the new "Z" will be released and proven in a couple/3 years, then I'll be ready to slip into one. :-)

But I think I'll go automatic with the next one...

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/74/740d...173a09f83c.jpg

Redglare 12-18-2015 09:02 AM

Can't wait for this powerplant, I am sure a simple tune will bring that 350torque up into 400 range.

The real question is how will this reflect on the prices of used 370s and is this a good time to dump the platform while waiting for the new one?

I remember when the 370 first came out and hit the dealer lots the used prices for lightly used 350s dropped a good chunk (I know because the price for my 08 with 20k miles went from ~24k down to 18k pretty much overnight.

FPenvy 12-18-2015 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 3370914)
Can't wait for this powerplant, I am sure a simple tune will bring that 350torque up into 400 range.

The real question is how will this reflect on the prices of used 370s and is this a good time to dump the platform while waiting for the new one?

I remember when the 370 first came out and hit the dealer lots the used prices for lightly used 350s dropped a good chunk (I know because the price for my 08 with 20k miles went from ~24k down to 18k pretty much overnight.

im sure the price will drop a bit but the 370 is a much better car than the 350 so I think it "may" hold a bit better.

I think I may just keep my 370 forever. at this point no reason to sell it and get a low amount back.

UNKNOWN_370 12-18-2015 06:38 PM

On the interim values dropped on the 350z substantially, but after 2 years they climbed up and stagnated fora few years before going back down

LAVA 12-19-2015 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooster89 (Post 3370310)
They should just give the people what they want and rename it to Fairlady Z.

Some people may want that. The ones that do can just do the same thing they've been doing and buy the Fairlady emblem.

ZKraken22 12-19-2015 07:30 PM

With this engine the Z car is relavent again! Take some sales from the Chavy and the blue oval. Nissan just needs to nail the redesign. Even at 3200 would be wonderful!!

falconfixer 12-20-2015 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3370609)
Well, I've been contemplating cars for a year. I've thought about the pros and cons of going 6 figures. Have read insurmountable reviews of cars etc... I feel the car that fits my personality and my preferred driving dynamics most is the MB AMG GTS... But configuring the car to my taste reached a whopping $159,600 before ttl. I can't go that high. I believe the Z in my mental theory would be the next best car... If the Z disappoints somehow? I've come to the conclusion that there's only one logical replacement. The best compromise between price, performance & style would be the Jaguar F Type... My only gripe is the electric steering in 2016 and it can go on a 200lb diet for the price.
I know the corvette would be faster, but I believe between the two, the jag probably had the better steering feel and the best quality for the money. I am not concerned with being the fastest guy on the block. And I think Jag n aftermarket KW may actually make a great team coupled with the optional carbon ceramics to reduce unsprung weight.

The test drives will tell the truth but. This is my theory from extensive research and reviews. I'm enamoured with the Camaro, but feel 188" for my driving style is too much mass.

Hoping the Z is everything I hope it to be so I can save a ton. I really want my next car to feel really special.

I test drove a couple of 2015 F types and they are fun cars. When it came down to the V8 awd or the GT-R I had to stick with Nissan.

RicerX 12-21-2015 08:34 AM

I'll just put this out there - a major platform/chassis revision for the Z could be looming to make the following work for its lineup -

The 300hp version would be the base configuration. The Nismo would get the 400hp.

300hp on a platform that cuts a bit of weight from the 370 could make for a base model that performs right along with the current Nismo (the TORQUE EVERYWHERE is my reasoning). The Nismo version with an additional 100hp would be enough to command the pricing premium - I think most everyone bitched about the Nismo only being another 18hp.

For another 10k with all a proper set of forged wheels, giant brakes that don't overheat, a helical limited slip differential, trick rev-matching transmission, and another 100hp on a boosted platform? Where do I sign?

FPenvy 12-21-2015 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3372863)
I'll just put this out there - a major platform/chassis revision for the Z could be looming to make the following work for its lineup -

The 300hp version would be the base configuration. The Nismo would get the 400hp.

300hp on a platform that cuts a bit of weight from the 370 could make for a base model that performs right along with the current Nismo (the TORQUE EVERYWHERE is my reasoning). The Nismo version with an additional 100hp would be enough to command the pricing premium - I think most everyone bitched about the Nismo only being another 18hp.

For another 10k with all a proper set of forged wheels, giant brakes that don't overheat, a helical limited slip differential, trick rev-matching transmission, and another 100hp on a boosted platform? Where do I sign?

I really hope they don't do that. I agree the small HP bump was :bs: for the extra money they charged for the nismo. however I really would hate to pay the money for the car but it have a god awful body kit like the 09-14 nismo. the 2015 I love the front the rest is ok.

go back to the option setup of the first few years. the new option setups Nissan has in place really makes me think they go grab handicapped monkeys and have them pick how it all goes together.

although if it's still all fuckin whacky for the next model I really hope the nismo tech 7at is an option because I will go with that rather than not being able to have a nice interior and all the performance goodies too.

Firebase99 12-21-2015 04:10 PM

Personally I see nothing wrong with a 2 liter turbo 300/300 at 3k pounds at $30k. Put some tech in there, etc at $36k. NISMO gets the 3 liter 400/350 turbo at $39k, etc. Add a few things you're playing in performance/price with ford and Chevy at $42k. It'll be as quick but more intimate as a 2 seat fighter jet.

indyn 12-22-2015 10:49 AM

Hope it will be offered in manual. I'm going to post this news on the BMW forum, this will irritate the **** out of them. :rolleyes:

UNKNOWN_370 12-28-2015 11:38 AM

The infiniti Q30 has been paired with a DCT. I know that's just a 4 banger. But it gives me hope that we may see a transmission shift with the Z. As the equivalent GLA 45 carries a standard 7 speed automatic transmission and we have DCT though we share engines The DCT is in the AMG version which shows that Nissan is still looking to have its own technological identity.

FPenvy 12-28-2015 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3377141)
The infiniti Q30 has been paired with a DCT. I know that's just a 4 banger. But it gives me hope that we may see a transmission shift with the Z. As the equivalent GLA 45 carries a standard 7 speed automatic transmission and we have DCT though we share engines The DCT is in the AMG version which shows that Nissan is still looking to have its own technological identity.

just think we are about 13 days away from finding out all the info when the Detroit auto show begins.


well info on the infiniti side for the q50/60 and this engine. knowing Nissan the Z wont be spoken of until the month before launch.

Firebase99 12-28-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3377144)
just think we are about 13 days away from finding out all the info when the Detroit auto show begins.


well info on the infiniti side for the q50/60 and this engine. knowing Nissan the Z wont be spoken of until the month before launch.

What is this "Z" you speak of?

FPenvy 12-28-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3377156)
What is this "Z" you speak of?

some mythical creature from japan. its basically folklore at this point lol

UNKNOWN_370 12-28-2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3377144)
just think we are about 13 days away from finding out all the info when the Detroit auto show begins.


well info on the infiniti side for the q50/60 and this engine. knowing Nissan the Z wont be spoken of until the month before launch.

Yup... Spy photo late June. Track testing news for 2 months... See the full car in September. Trace amounts being sold from October to February. Volume sales in March.

Typical Nissan.

UNKNOWN_370 12-30-2015 08:11 AM

The Q60 better give the Jaguar F-Type S a run for it's money when it comes to exhaust sound. It's all about exhaust noises. That's whose getting my money. Cuz all these cars perform well.

FPenvy 12-30-2015 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3378363)
The Q60 better give the Jaguar F-Type S a run for it's money when it comes to exhaust sound. It's all about exhaust noises. That's whose getting my money. Cuz all these cars perform well.

solution: 3" straight pipe all the way.

UNKNOWN_370 12-30-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3378366)
solution: 3" straight pipe all the way.

I know the solution... I want Nissan to get it right the way CHEVY did. People can **** on Camaro all day. But they addressed EVERYTHING the clientele wanted to see out of the Camaro.
A real corvette engine
A lower COG
A real sports car feel with muscle car sound
A sports car seating position
21st century technology.
Modern cabin.
Lower ride height
LIGHTER
WIDER
BETTER BRAKING OPTIONS
MORE CUSTOMIZABILITY

FPenvy 12-30-2015 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3378540)
I know the solution... I want Nissan to get it right the way CHEVY did. People can **** on Camaro all day. But they addressed EVERYTHING the clientele wanted to see out of the Camaro.
A real corvette engine
A lower COG
A real sports car feel with muscle car sound
A sports car seating position
21st century technology.
Modern cabin.
Lower ride height
LIGHTER
WIDER
BETTER BRAKING OPTIONS
MORE CUSTOMIZABILITY

i mean i'm sure IF there's a next Z a lot will be addressed and at least the tech and interior to be brought up to 2016 standards. the newest Z/nismo is just new seats and same old tech/interior because its there why change it and raise cost.

also i will say i think the current braking (sport option/mismo) isn't bad on the Z. I've never had issues with them and feel they work well.

UNKNOWN_370 12-30-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3378548)
i mean i'm sure IF there's a next Z a lot will be addressed and at least the tech and interior to be brought up to 2016 standards. the newest Z/nismo is just new seats and same old tech/interior because its there why change it and raise cost.

also i will say i think the current braking (sport option/mismo) isn't bad on the Z. I've never had issues with them and feel they work well.


The list was geared to the Camaro. Not reflective of what I expect in the Z.

It's just amazing how well Chevy listened. I'm just hoping for the same quality in the redesign process with the Z.

Our brakes our fine. They just need standard brake cooling throughout the range.

T-Rex57 01-03-2016 03:10 PM

Does anyone know how large is the motor in dimensional terms?

Wondering if an engine swap into the current Z be feasible over the standard route of turbocharging the VQ37VHR? (Where I'm from, a TT conversion costs well over $30k)

sunkist350z 01-03-2016 09:01 PM

Really turbo kit as much as the car itself? I thought the top of the line HKS turbo kit was the most expensive at 10k?

jwick 01-03-2016 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3380535)
Really turbo kit as much as the car itself? I thought the top of the line HKS turbo kit was the most expensive at 10k?


Check his location.

Also the true cost to do FI property is close to if not more than $20k here in the U.S.

T-Rex57 01-04-2016 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3380544)
Check his location.

Also the true cost to do FI property is close to if not more than $20k here in the U.S.

It's the location as you say. Customs, shipping and labor take a huge toll here.

oxymoron 01-04-2016 05:28 AM

Not to mention the car is 70k new here.

A factory TT Z sounds great to me. However, the "integrated turbo manifolds" worry me a lot when it comes to modding potential. If the are a big restriction for some reason, throwing larger turbos on there may be pretty damn costly.

I'm also a little worried by the peak torque at 1600-5200 rpm thing. That basically means the turbos are tiny and they are trying to do their best to hide the fact they are there at all. Sure modern turbo engines are fast and efficient. But I'll take the excitement a bit of good old turbo lag brings over efficiency any day.

UNKNOWN_370 01-09-2016 03:18 PM

C NET's take on the VQ37hr

https://youtu.be/Pux2vLGxUzw

FPenvy 01-11-2016 08:34 AM

2016 Detroit Auto Show: 2017 Infiniti Q60 Coupe

UNKNOWN_370 01-11-2016 12:20 PM

Was about to post.... I think WE GOT A WINNER???

The Dimer 01-11-2016 12:36 PM

It's all going to come down to cost for me. It'll be great unless they jack the price $20k.

UNKNOWN_370 01-11-2016 12:37 PM

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/653e...v003-sc-2K.JPG

UNKNOWN_370 01-11-2016 12:38 PM

http://www.inautonews.com/wp-content...pe-770x514.jpg

UNKNOWN_370 01-11-2016 12:51 PM

https://youtu.be/Ywjvs4Rurvs

UNKNOWN_370 01-11-2016 12:52 PM

The new Infiniti Q60 is a svelte luxury sports coupe with 400 horsepower | The Verge


Looks like that 4 banger Z may happen after all?

FPenvy 01-11-2016 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3385760)
Was about to post.... I think WE GOT A WINNER???

the real winner is that new Buick coupe if it ever gets made.

400HP TT on the alpha platform with possible Camaro suspension underneath but sexy styling.

sign me up lol

FPenvy 01-11-2016 01:15 PM

again I will say from concept to production the Q60 is underwhelming a bit.

the exterior is good but man the concept seemed plausible to keep that aggressive but it got toned down a bunch.

the side view I really just see a maxima with a front fender vent.

the gem here is the engine. its the hope that the next Z (if one presents itself) has that engine and they style it correctly.

if not, it's time to move on from Nissan I think. many other great options are available or soon to be available.

carlitos_370z 01-11-2016 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3385786)

the 4 banger for me is the Nissan Silvia... :wtf2:

BTW i like the Q60 coupe :p

Firebase99 01-11-2016 01:47 PM

I better win this 1.3 billion lotto, for there are so many cars I need to own.

carlitos_370z 01-11-2016 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3385857)
I better win this 1.3 billion lotto, for there are so many cars I need to own.

:iagree:


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