i dont think you understand what a "cover" is. a cover is defending what you said. i was basically saying what you said before you even said it. basically saying.. failure does not mean its a bad company.

are you you in the north east? i would love to compare lap times at lime rock park.

all jokes aside, would love to do it.

But you Are saying that its not on Par with Brembo quality which the Coupe has correct?

education level is strong with this one...

you come to alberta Canada and i'll race you. On the track of course. :tiphat:

i am saying the $31,500 3.8 Track Gen Coupe with all the luxarys (leather and all that crap) has better brakes and suspension then the $40,000 370z Touring with SPORT package.

i will get right on that. lol from: short hills nj to: alberta canada - Google Maps

What is the size of the rotors for the Brembo's?

And why would you be racing with the Touring edition, leather and all that fancy crap is useless if your making it a Track car? I mean, at least IMHO.

Based on...? Source...? Because they named it "track edition"?

Let's name our Z's "super track edition" from now on.

But wait, OP will come up with "super duper track edition".

It's never going to end.....

Don't forget your passport... :tup:

shumby, if you are ever in the North East US. i highly recommend this track. great place. LIME ROCK PARK

Ok... allow me to summarize...

1. Your stock genesis coupe will get destroyed on ANY track on this planet by a stock Z w/ equal drivers
2. There is also the issue of weight... The Z weighs about 3-400 lbs less than the gen... comparable trims of course
3. The Z brakes from 60 in about a 100' the Gen does it in about 110'...

So ... the brakes on the Z are better... the topend on the Z is better... the skid pad on the Z is better... the tires on the Z are better... How does your genesis measure up against a Z in ANY track?

And of course this beast here will dominate... its a drift car... MR for perfect weight distro... 500hp... lol if you had a 500whp MR Z you will destroy almost anything out there w/a good driver...

But nothing beats the fun of Nurburgring, whether your there to race, or go to a massive concert lol. \o/

we are comparing car to car. the gen coupe 3.8 track model comes with leather and all that. so the apples to apples comparison is the 370z touring sport. same equipped car.

as for your first question.

from the site:

* 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
* Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
* Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
* Torsen-type limited-slip differential

For those asking:
~Four-piston Brembo brakes with 13.4" rotors in the front and 13" in the rear
~314HP (Premium) / 306HP (Regular)
~0-60 : 5.5 sec
~Weight: 3397

you took stats from the base model gen coupe. not the track model like i have.

compare the 3.8 track to the 370z Sport.

cool thanks.

i thought the HP was 312 with prem fuel but i will take a few more :P

I didn't realize they made a track model Elantra...that's sweet!

ok i lol'

Well to be "fair," you should be comparing your track gen coupe to the track Z then (which is called Nismo), but even still. The gen coupe in all magazine/online/etc. have shown the gen coupe falls short in all categories other than one, price.

The reviewers either are all wrong or out to get Hyundai, while they praise the car for being a great first go, the reviews always end with: "You get what you pay for."
If you want it all then you pay for it in a Z or even a Porsche (for the next level), but if you are on a budget then the gen coupe can fill the void while not killing your wallet. But do realize you are not going to best the car above you (i.e. the Z).

*Comparisons are all stock to stock*

an elantra that you are a tad threatened by perhaps. :hello:

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See, these are the comments we are talking about. So far this thread has been civil, you posting about your gen coupe times trying to prove your car might be faster against a stock Z, etc. Yet you go and ruin it by posting this, yes his comment was not on-topic, but it was a joke. See how people are laughing at it, so no, they are not "threatened" by you.

ok lets compare it to the Nismo. what is the real price of the nismo at now? :roflpuke2: with that price difference of almost 20k i could do quite a but to the gen coupe to make it faster.

2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track Full Test and Video


2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe Full Test and Video on Inside Line


14.5-second quarter-mile at 97.9 mph
68.2-mph slalom speed
Curb weight, mfr. claim (lbs.) 3,389
Curb weight, as-tested (lbs.) 3,488
Horsepower (hp @ rpm) 306 @ 6,300
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm) 266 @ 4,700
0 - 30 (sec.) 2.4
0 - 45 (sec.) 4.3
0 - 60 (sec.) 6.4
0 - 75 (sec.) 9.0
1/4 mile (sec. @ mph) 14.5 @ 97.9
0-60 with 1-ft rollout (sec.) 6.1
30 - 0 (ft.) 28
60 - 0 (ft.) 111
Braking rating Good
Slalom, 6 x 100 ft (mph) 68.2
Skid pad, 200 ft diameter (lateral g) 0.88

Looks about like a G35, not bad, but not going to take any 370Z on any course anytime given equal drivers.

once again, i was responding to a smart *** comment. was i not?

Would you consider the NISMO Stock?

Nismo current invoice price (which has been what majority of people are paying) is 37,500 or so (depending on the couple of extra items you can add).

His comment was a joke, reply with a smiley. I.e. :rofl2: or :rolleyes:

No body is laughing.

you took the worse stats you could find and posted them. take a look at other stats people here have posted.
0-60 in 6.4 seconds is what one review said.. all the others said, 0-60 in 5-5 seconds.

wasnt trying to be funny. just pointing out a truth.

I took the first full review of the Genesis TRACk model I found, given by a group that has also tested the 370Z multiple times. You simply can't go in with more weight, less horsepower and poorer handling and win. The best test ever of the coupe falls far short of the worst test of the 370Z on every count except back seat room. Not even if lala-fairly land will our car win, sorry. :D

Closing in to a 5 out of 8 (62.5%) banned post rates. :ughdance:

How much more is the G37?

Here is a proper comparison. Not slant.

2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 vs 2009 Infiniti G37 Coupe Comparison Video

don't forget, Professional Crashers results may vary.

this is the closest we are going to get to a real world comparison right here. 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 vs 2009 Infiniti G37 Coupe Comparison Video

remember, never said the Gen Coupe was faster. i said the gen coupe has certain advantages over the Z that may well surprise you on certain tracks.

"THERE IS A STORM ON THE G's HORIZON." :driving:

Try finding the worse stats you could with a 370z. Not a luxury G37.

Actually the other tests have been:
# Motor trend review 0-60 : 5.5 sec
# Car and Driver review 0-60 : 5.7 sec
# Popular Mechanics review 0-60 : 5.8 sec
# Edmunds.com review 0-60 : (1st record) 6.4 sec: (retest record) 5.9 sec

So by average you are looking at 5.725

yup, that was my point. he took the the worst 6.4 that edmunds screwed up on. that is slant.

you as a driver should know that stats on paper mean nothing. real world comparison. i cant find any proper comparisons on video. the only thing i can find is the comparison to the G37 Sport which is a very similar car to the Z.