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shumby 11-04-2009 11:01 AM
I like boobies


ibtl

XwChriswX 11-04-2009 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by nurburgring (Post 265954)
you are wrong my friend. i never said, "the coupe owns the Z". in this thread i said this particular 500HP heavily modded coupe would own the Z. then again if you modded the Z that much it would be even again. so apples to oranges. it was a dumb comment i made in this thread, thus the reason i deleted it.

stock VS stock the Z is the faster car. (20 more HP) and a bit lighter.

what i did say is that the Gen Coupe has better breaks (brembos VS Nissan breaks) and a stiffer more track tuned suspension. that could come into play on a heavy breaking track.
How can I be wrong when your openly admitting you made a dumb comment?

Ok, so your saying that only in the extremely specific scenario of the special edition Genesis vs a stock Z on a track that is built for heavy braking the Genesis would win?

Honestly if that's the only way it can win, where do you derive that it is a 'better car' based on a highly specified test bed? Shouldn't the 'Best Car' idea go to the vehicle which wins in the most categories accessible to that class of car?

HP?
Torque?
Lap Time?
Strip Time?
0-60?
60-0?
Curb Weight?
Turning Radius?
etc. etc.


I mean if a car gets more X's than the other... its a pretty unanimous decision right?

YamahaR6 11-04-2009 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by nurburgring (Post 265954)
what i did say is that the Gen Coupe has better breaks (brembos VS Nissan breaks) and a stiffer more track tuned suspension. that could come into play on a heavy breaking track.
Just a note: Nissan brakes are by Akebono. Also used by the McLaren F1 team.

Gen Coupe has better brakes or not? Not judging.

Side note: it's brake not breaks.

nurburgring 11-04-2009 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 265974)
Ok, so your saying that only in the extremely specific scenario of the special edition Genesis vs a stock Z on a track that is built for heavy braking the Genesis would win?
no, not "special edition genesis". my genesis, the 3.8 Track Model. the top of the line stock model.

the 3.8 track model has better breaks and better track suspension. so yes, if the track was more geared for that type of car it would have a good chance of beating the 370.

be honest. dont you wish the 370 came with brembos over "nissan" breaks. lol

shumby 11-04-2009 11:14 AM
no

nurburgring 11-04-2009 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by YamahaR6 (Post 265975)
Just a note: Nissan brakes are by Akebono. Also used by the McLaren F1 team.

Gen Coupe has better brakes better or not? Not judging.

Side note: it's brake not breaks.
yea and look at what happened to Lewis Hamilton Car the last race of the season. BRAKE FAILURE. :icon18:

most of the racing world uses brembo for a reason.

i never was a good speller. :(

nurburgring 11-04-2009 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 265979)
no
sure you do. search down deep.

XwChriswX 11-04-2009 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nurburgring (Post 265978)
no, not "special edition genesis". my genesis, the 3.8 Track Model. the top of the line stock model.

the 3.8 track model has better breaks and better track suspension. so yes, if the track was more geared for that type of car it would have a good chance of beating the 370.

be honest. dont you wish the 370 came with brembos over "nissan" breaks. lol
Doesn't exactly sound the same, because if it has Brembo's most 'stock' cars don't come with outside company brakes unless they are in the 6 figure price range, so I would call that a special edition. That would be saying the NISMO vs a Stock Z. Or do you call NISMO Stock?

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Originally Posted by nurburgring (Post 265982)
yea and look at what happened to Lewis Hamilton Car the last race of the season. BRAKE FAILURE. :icon18:

most of the racing world uses brembo for a reason.

i never was a good speller. :(
What brand was he using, do you know? And specifically was was the failure?

YamahaR6 11-04-2009 11:23 AM
Doubt he knows about Akebono brakes; probably just found out 2 minutes ago. That's why he keeps calling it "Nissan Breaks".

Porsche also has "Porsche Breaks". You know?

shumby 11-04-2009 11:27 AM
so i just had a coffee poop. it was runny

nurburgring 11-04-2009 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 265987)
Doesn't exactly sound the same, because if it has Brembo's most 'stock' cars don't come with outside company brakes unless they are in the 6 figure price range, so I would call that a special edition. That would be saying the NISMO vs a Stock Z. Or do you call NISMO Stock?



What brand was he using, do you know? And specifically was was the failure?
the track model of the genesis coupe comes with brembo brakes. not sure what you are trying to say. just go look at the hyundai website. the 3.8 track model for $31,500 comes with brembos standard.

as for lewis hamilton. he was using akebono according to what YamahaR6 said. he had to retire from the race for the left right rear brake problem.

to be fare though it was the first mechanical failure he ever had that led to a retirement of the race.

nurburgring 11-04-2009 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by YamahaR6 (Post 265996)
Doubt he knows about Akebono brakes; probably just found out 2 minutes ago. That's why he keeps calling it "Nissan Breaks".

Porsche also has "Porsche Breaks". You know?
never heard of akebono. you are correct my good man.

the fact that i have never heard of them or seen them and i am a huge Rally and F1 fan and general super car lover says a lot. tell you what i have seen and heard of. BREMBO. lol

XwChriswX 11-04-2009 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by nurburgring (Post 266002)
the track model of the genesis coupe comes with brembo brakes. not sure what you are trying to say. just go look at the hyundai website. the 3.8 track model for $31,500 comes with brembos standard.

I'm trying to say that Brembo is a specialized Brake company, so not every car is going to have them. Therefore they are not 'stock'. So to say your coupe vs a Stock Z and even then only in a highly turn based track the coupe might beat the Z is a highly specified situation and shouldn't be used to base the fact Coupe > Z.

as for lewis hamilton. he was using akebono according to what YamahaR6 said. he had to retire from the race for the left right rear brake problem.

to be fare though it was the first mechanical failure he ever had that led to a retirement of the race.
So a singular incident for the first time of that magnitude is enough to disavow Akebono as a good competition quality brake? Have you looked into the Braking Section to read about Akebono's and Track Quality?

shumby 11-04-2009 11:35 AM
need title change


brembo vs. "nissan brake"

YamahaR6 11-04-2009 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by nurburgring (Post 266005)
never heard of akebono. you are correct my good man.

the fact that i have never heard of them or seen them and i am a huge Rally and F1 fan and general super car lover says a lot. tell you what i have seen and heard of. BREMBO. lol
Such a shallow and naive self claim professional racer you are.


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