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Z-Girl 12 04-26-2015 03:55 PM

2016 Porsche Cayman GT4
 
To be released fall of this year.. thoughts as I'm clueless on the topic of Porsche anything. Was looking to get into a new M3 sedan and totally ditch the 2-seater but the new Motor Trend mag peaked my interest with the GT4.

nomodsjk 04-27-2015 01:32 AM

As a former Cayman owner GET it! They're amazing! Nothing handles like a mid engine porsche!

JC-Nismo 04-27-2015 01:43 AM

GT4-Girl??? Not bad, not bad at all:)

cigarclifford 04-27-2015 01:45 AM

Sign me up for a 2015 Porsche Cayman GT4 any day of the week. I could
then go out and spank many. The only thing to go would be the exhaust
system. Would add a FI dual exhaust system with surround sound. End of story.

-Clifford :tup:

Z-Girl 12 04-27-2015 04:32 AM

Thanks for the info but why only 385hp? M3, m4, c63 etc for much less money with 400 plus hp.

Davey 04-27-2015 05:45 AM

If it's anything like the past cars, it will be light, and 385 HP will be plenty to have fun with.

The most recent M3 was like 3700 lbs IIRC (and I'm someone will correct me if I don't) and the Cayman is well under 3000 lbs.

Light cars are better. You can always add more HP to a big boat of a car to get the job done, but the best is a light car with enough power.

Guess how much HP a diesel locomotive has? :icon17:

Zoren 370 04-27-2015 06:16 AM

As Davey have said look at the power to weight ratio plus the balance of a mid engine is unbeatable.

bvl 04-27-2015 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 3179990)
Thanks for the info but why only 385hp? M3, m4, c63 etc for much less money with 400 plus hp.

The Cayman will never be the best $/hp if that is what people care about. If that is you, get a C7.

Or, drive a Cayman (several in fact) and you may just get the package of the car and quickly forget that more power is not necessarily better.

I suggest driving both the base and S models, as they may suit you fine at a huge discount over the hard to get GT4 (I doubt they will go for MSRP as a special model).

You also want to find roads that are not strait :)

- b

FPenvy 04-27-2015 07:52 AM

the cayman GT4 is nice but the major fail with it is they left the PDK tranny on the shelf. one of the better DCT's on the market but they decided to not use it at all. not even an option. 6MT only.

good job Porsche.

FPenvy 04-27-2015 08:01 AM

also the other issue is the price. bases at 84K and by the time you add any little extra you're looking at 100K in the end.

in a heartbeat I would go buy a 2015 GT-R over a little baby 911 (w/o a PDK tranny) any day of the week. the car is overpriced and lacking in my opinion.

Z-Girl 12 04-27-2015 08:24 AM

I wouldn't track it...shameful I know. So the pdk I don't think I'd miss. Definitely want a bit of comfort as it would be a dd and occasional road trip car 5hrs max. FPenvy if the price nears 100k the GTR would be back on the table. The Cayman is just so cute though!!!

FPenvy 04-27-2015 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 3180156)
I wouldn't track it...shameful I know. So the pdk I don't think I'd miss. Definitely want a bit of comfort as it would be a dd and occasional road trip car 5hrs max. FPenvy if the price nears 100k the GTR would be back on the table. The Cayman is just so cute though!!!

2015 GT-R's are going for 80K currently so you could mod a GT-R with the spare 20K you would have into a GT4.

I think it looks good but the price is outlandish for a cayman. in the end the money just isn't worth it in my mind.

Z-Girl 12 04-27-2015 08:42 AM

Never in my life seen a gtr for 80k. Slightly used sure but my dealer for premium is $92k and track $105k. :(

FPenvy 04-27-2015 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 3180169)
Never in my life seen a gtr for 80k. Slightly used sure but my dealer for premium is $92k and track $105k. :(

Year - Make - Model Style - Avg. Price - Avg. Odometer - No. Sold
2015 NISSAN GT-R - 2D COUPE BLACK EDITION - $83,213 - 2,908 6
2015 NISSAN GT-R - 2D COUPE PREMIUM - $79,638 - 7,299

i don't go to dealerships lol :tiphat:

Z-Girl 12 04-27-2015 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3180175)
Year - Make - Model Style - Avg. Price - Avg. Odometer - No. Sold
2015 NISSAN GT-R - 2D COUPE BLACK EDITION - $83,213 - 2,908 6
2015 NISSAN GT-R - 2D COUPE PREMIUM - $79,638 - 7,299

i don't go to dealerships lol :tiphat:

Wow, educate me. Where you getting that info???

FPenvy 04-27-2015 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 3180180)
Wow, educate me. Where you getting that info???

dealer auction. GT-R's are hit or miss. some go for a bit more if its super low miles or they fall off the table in price if they have 10k or more on the clock. 2015s with 5k or less are hovering around 85k lately, black editions are 92-95k lately as well.

2014s are around 75-83K avg lately.

sidenote: i know a lot of dealerships were dropping 2015 prices big time recently and maybe back at it now with the 2016 already out. dealers should be around 85-90k themselves.

JARblue 04-27-2015 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3180133)
the cayman GT4 is nice but the major fail with it is they left the PDK tranny on the shelf. one of the better DCT's on the market but they decided to not use it at all. not even an option. 6MT only.

good job Porsche.

Bitching about a 6MT-only vehicle in today's world of "let the computers do everything for you"? :shakes head:

That being said, that PDK is one helluva tranny :yum:

FPenvy 04-27-2015 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3180222)
Bitching about a 6MT-only vehicle in today's world of "let the computers do everything for you"? :shakes head:

That being said, that PDK is one helluva tranny :yum:

this was my point and not the fact that the 6MT is an outdated piece of junk :tiphat:

:bowrofl:

JARblue 04-27-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3180224)
this was my point and not the fact that the 6MT is an outdated piece of junk :tiphat:

:bowrofl:

Simple and outdated does not equal junk :tiphat:

But I don't want to turn this into another AT vs MT thread. We already have a really good one of those going :tup:

OP, I just did an oil and transmission fluid change for a local Z owner that drove a Cayman for a few days before eating the deposit and trading it for a 370Z :driving: It wasn't the GT4, of course.

osbornsm 04-27-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3180229)
OP, I just did an oil and transmission fluid change for a local Z owner that drove a Cayman for a few days before eating the deposit and trading it for a 370Z :driving: It wasn't the GT4, of course.

I mean, come ON tho... a 911 starts where the GT-4 ends up (price wise).

But i do have to get my arse in a Cayman, to at least see what all this hubub is about.

UNKNOWN_370 04-27-2015 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 3180169)
Never in my life seen a gtr for 80k. Slightly used sure but my dealer for premium is $92k and track $105k. :(

Of course you have... In 2008, they debuted and $79k

Z-Girl 12 04-27-2015 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3180740)
Of course you have... In 2008, they debuted and $79k

LMBO :icon18:

Magic Bus 04-27-2015 08:26 PM

Z-Girl, Follow this thread from Nagtroc.

I was on the fence of getting a new 14 last year for $84k from Portland, OR. But in my mind, I just couldn't justify spending that kind of money to drive that rocket ship on my tiny island.

Nissan offers $10,000 Incentive to dealers on remaining 2014 & 2015 GTR Inventory - Page 72 - R35 GT-R - GT-R Life

Z-Girl 12 04-27-2015 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 3180898)
Z-Girl, Follow this thread from Nagtroc.

I was on the fence of getting a new 14 last year for $84k from Portland, OR. But in my mind, I just couldn't justify spending that kind of money to drive that rocket ship on my tiny island.

Nissan offers $10,000 Incentive to dealers on remaining 2014 & 2015 GTR Inventory - Page 72 - R35 GT-R - GT-R Life

Good find Magic Bus!!! Thank you!!!

Magic Bus 04-27-2015 10:17 PM

:tiphat:

UNKNOWN_370 04-27-2015 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 3180788)
LMBO :icon18:


Lol... You said, "In my lifetime".:tiphat:

DCNISMO 04-28-2015 08:11 AM

Your way too late to get one....all the orders have been taken and the slots are all gone for the first batch. Now, people with less sense than money are dumping their year old Cayman GTS to get the GT4. GTS is a very good car in itself. I had my 997 C4S serviced at a local Porsche dealer, and we talked the GT4 and the allocations. All gone. High volume dealers got 4 slots, low volume only got 1 slot. Some got none at all. People are scouring the country to find slots. And they are paying big money without ever even seeing the car.

FPenvy 04-28-2015 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 3181243)
Your way too late to get one....all the orders have been taken and the slots are all gone for the first batch. Now, people with less sense than money are dumping their year old Cayman GTS to get the GT4. GTS is a very good car in itself. I had my 997 C4S serviced at a local Porsche dealer, and we talked the GT4 and the allocations. All gone. High volume dealers got 4 slots, low volume only got 1 slot. Some got none at all. People are scouring the country to find slots. And they are paying big money without ever even seeing the car.

same thing happened with the first set of new vettes. I went down to the local chevy dealer with my pops to see if they were getting one and it was a secret target they had to hit for allocation. I guess my local chevy dealer was just off getting one since they really don't sell a lot of vettes but got lucky in some other lottery type deal and got one of the first batch in.

let's just say I was sick that day and went down to watch them unload and get to sit in it. was gonna drive it but there was 7" of snow falling at the time it got there lol

Z-Girl 12 04-28-2015 08:26 AM

Thanks DCNISMO.. one can dream right?

DCNISMO 04-28-2015 10:13 AM

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Thanks DCNISMO.. one can dream right?
Sure can, I waited for a while till I could afford the 997.1 and they hit the slightly below 50K mark. THe MSRP on mine was 98K in 2007. Porsche claims they will make as many of the Cayman GT4 as they can sell. A limited option one should be affordable within 3 to 4 years or so. So far my 997.1 been very reliable and not all that expensive to keep running well. Long as you buy a good used one, they are fine.

TerribleONE 04-28-2015 10:59 AM

I know I am late here but FP is just mad cause he doesn't row his own gears..

FPenvy 04-28-2015 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 3181391)
Sure can, I waited for a while till I could afford the 997.1 and they hit the slightly below 50K mark. THe MSRP on mine was 98K in 2007. Porsche claims they will make as many of the Cayman GT4 as they can sell. A limited option one should be affordable within 3 to 4 years or so. So far my 997.1 been very reliable and not all that expensive to keep running well. Long as you buy a good used one, they are fine.

got me curious so I went and looked.

2014 pearl white cayman S with PDK loaded 4400 miles is at the auction for 65k buy it now before it hits the block.....hmmm :yum:

"CLEAN TITLE, CARFAX CERTIFIED ONE OWNER, 14 CAYMAN S LOADED WITH AM/FM CD PLAYER WITH AUX INPUT, HEATED/VENTILATED FRONT SEATS, FULL CLEAR BRA, FACTORY 20 INCH CLASSIC CARRERA WHEELS WITH ALMOST NEW GOODYEAR TIRES, PDK, PASM, BI-XENON HEADLIGHTS WITH FOGS, REAR PARK ASSIST, SPORT CHRONO, POWER STEERING PLUS, SPORT DESIGN STEERING WHEEL, SPORT CHRONO CLOCK DIAL IN WHITE, POWER SPORT SEATS 14 WAY WITH MEMORY PACKAGE, PREMIUM PACKAGE PLUS, INSTRUMENT DIALS IN WHITE, PLUS MUCH MORE. THIS CAYMAN S HAD A $82,820.00 DOLLAR WINDOW STICKER."

Haboob 04-28-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3180133)
the cayman GT4 is nice but the major fail with it is they left the PDK tranny on the shelf. one of the better DCT's on the market but they decided to not use it at all. not even an option. 6MT only.

good job Porsche.

:facepalm: People bitched when Porsche removed the 6MT from their cars. Now that they've put it back in, people are bitching there's no PDK option on a drivers car. :shakes head:

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3180222)
Bitching about a 6MT-only vehicle in today's world of "let the computers do everything for you"? :shakes head:

That being said, that PDK is one helluva tranny :yum:

Right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3181430)
got me curious so I went and looked.

2014 pearl white cayman S with PDK loaded 4400 miles is at the auction for 65k buy it now before it hits the block.....hmmm :yum:

"CLEAN TITLE, CARFAX CERTIFIED ONE OWNER, 14 CAYMAN S LOADED WITH AM/FM CD PLAYER WITH AUX INPUT, HEATED/VENTILATED FRONT SEATS, FULL CLEAR BRA, FACTORY 20 INCH CLASSIC CARRERA WHEELS WITH ALMOST NEW GOODYEAR TIRES, PDK, PASM, BI-XENON HEADLIGHTS WITH FOGS, REAR PARK ASSIST, SPORT CHRONO, POWER STEERING PLUS, SPORT DESIGN STEERING WHEEL, SPORT CHRONO CLOCK DIAL IN WHITE, POWER SPORT SEATS 14 WAY WITH MEMORY PACKAGE, PREMIUM PACKAGE PLUS, INSTRUMENT DIALS IN WHITE, PLUS MUCH MORE. THIS CAYMAN S HAD A $82,820.00 DOLLAR WINDOW STICKER."

Cayman GT-4 or bust. The Cayman/Cayman S are ugly and just [slightly] beefier Boxsters. :barf:

FPenvy 04-28-2015 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3181429)
I know I am late here but FP is just mad cause he doesn't row his own gears..

I got a nice gear knob you can come here and row big boy :yum:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 3181435)
Cayman GT-4 or bust. The Cayman/Cayman S are ugly and just [slightly] beefier Boxsters. :barf:

they all look like VW beetles in the end lol

Haboob 04-28-2015 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3181445)
I got a nice gear knob you can come here and row big boy :yum:



they all look like VW beetles in the end lol

Not even close...

FPenvy 04-28-2015 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 3181456)
Not even close...

debatable.

I would possibly get a cayman through the auction for the price but probably never a 911. even at the auction they are overpriced. at a dealership they're grossly overpriced lol

911 turbo S bases at like $183K? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that lol

rather go get a McLaren 570S and smack the 911 around. the 570 is starting at the exact same price as the 911 turbo S and looks better plus has more powahhhhhhhh

(even if it's only 2bhp :stirthepot:)

Haboob 04-28-2015 11:38 AM

Looks better is debatable, and the Porsche would probably do better around the track.

Not a huge fan of the McLarens (aside from the F1, SLR, and P1 of course). They look pretty plain and boring to me.

Porsche's are expensive, but hold their value (or increase in) very well.

FPenvy 04-28-2015 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 3181466)
Looks better is debatable, and the Porsche would probably do better around the track.

Not a huge fan of the McLarens (aside from the F1, SLR, and P1 of course). They look pretty plain and boring to me.

Porsche's are expensive, but hold their value (or increase in) very well.

I personally think the McLaren line looks good all the way through even the new "entry level" ones lol

DCNISMO 04-28-2015 01:38 PM

The Caymen GTS is a very much upgraded, from the Caymen S. But a Caymen GTS is still pretty pricey but guys are wanting to sell them to get the cash ready for the GT4. The Porsche dealers are really screwing them on the trade, them really mark up the GTS Caymen (for now) as a used car. The 997 based 911 GT3 with a stick have gone up in price from the MSRP, since the 991 GT3 is PDK only. As I've learned, the Porsche world is a whole new experience....

osbornsm 05-01-2015 08:37 AM

Haven't we done this already???

http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...an-gt-4-a.html


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