Yep, and because we (I) already established that since he's a Ninja, because he's Asian, he managed to buckle his kid in with a baby seat in record time!

LOL!!! (My gf is Chinese, and assuming his wife is Asian...) she isn't talk enough...

LOL, yeah, showing him up close of what a brake light is supposed to look like



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Not true. A lot of us got offended by the one guy who dropped in to tell us we were all ******* afraid to stunt and we should let bikers have their fun.

was the driver ASIAN????
 

Well that changes everything!!! :)

oh GOD
 

BOOoooo !!!!

anybody any of the "major players" in this thread. ;)

"Major players" = those willing to admit we don't have all the facts and have at least gone to the trouble to review what evidence there is :tup:

The video on the first page doesn't start at the beginning of the issue. What you describe is not what happened. Read this- Bikers terrorize family in high-speed chase | New York Post

What the heck are you talking about? Try watching it on a larger monitor. It happens fast but you'll notice one guy hitting the window on the driver side and another guy in white shirt near the front passenger tire in what looks like a stabbing motion a moment before the RR guy guns it. The traffic was stopped because the bikers stopped it. He bumped the biker because the biker clearly brake-checked him. He's looking backwards for Christ sake.

Just my observation of course...

don't get offended on the internet
it makes keyboard warriors happy

I don't hate bikers, but the minority gives a bad name to the majority...
I usually get out of the way of cunty drivers or bikers or whatever. I even pull to the left if I'm in a carpool lane and let them pass if I see them coming.


At the same time IF THESE are the facts:
Driver accidentally, maybe even purposely cuts off a biker.
Bikers get pissed
Bikers brake check the car
Driver hits biker due to brake check
Bikers all stop enclosing driver

If we ASSUME all those to be true, as soon as my door handle was pulled and the first fist was thrown at my window to break it...
I would have done EXACTLY the same as the driver... And having the wife and 2 year old in the car (in my mind) gives him all the more right to do so.

Hell, if it was me, if I could think fast enough, I'd try to mow down the maximum number of bikers to avoid them coming after me after. And god knows I wouldn't let traffic stop me. For my baby's life, I'd ram other cars, run lights, and do whatever. If I get boxed in by traffic, put that bítch in reverse.
ESPECIALLY after they broke his window. Sorry. ALLLLLLLL bets are off.

I'll go to jail to save my baby. I hope most if not all of you would do the same.

Exactly. The moment they attempt to gain entry to my vehicle, it becomes a self defense situation in my mind. I am experiencing a reasonable fear of injury or death. He's not opening my door to give me a back rub.

Stop doing drugs and get an eye test.

And I think I'm a fantastic driver, but I can't stop that quickly in front of a bike that's THAT close to me. Yeah, I'd back off a bit to avoid hitting him, but shít, you got 30-40 other bikers around you too, how much can you slow down without making it seem like you're not brake checking the bikers behind you?




Chuck, Red Zed, PM me your paypal info please

Oh HELL no. You're bringing that beer in person when we do the brakes on your car. Then we're both drinking it. And then possibly the rest of the beer fridge.

It's like Andre is in a different dimension, where an incident happened which he's commenting about, but it in no way resembles what we've seen, beyond the vague high level talking points (accident, bikers, suv...).

Is this your first Andre3000 post? He's a little different. Seems like a good enough guy, just on a different wavelength. I had a college roommate like that once. Did WAY too much acid and was never right again.

Bikers were wrong, but they were just ricers. They weren't gangsters. Running over someone & keep going should only be done after some MAJOR action by the bikers. Their behavior was awful & wrong, but they don't deserve to be run down & killed.

Like slashing tires and attempting to gain entry into your vehicle where your wife and child are? Like EXACTLY what happened?*

*Red Zed Disclaimer- "Like it most likely appears to have happened, pending thorough analysis of all evidence" :p

Someone on the other forum said "special". I like that better than different/wacko:) Ye, I did do some drugs....:confused:

We all did. That's what college is for. I can work with special- I chose "different" rather than "special" so I didn't imply you were retarded. Just a little off. ;)

Ricers/gangsters has nothing to do with it. I doubt that distinction was going through the SUV driver's mind.

What exactly constitutes a "MAJOR" action? Are you honestly suggesting they should have stabbed or beat him first?....before he's "allowed" to run them over?

So basically, he should have waited until they killed him first before protecting his family? Is that what he should have done? Should he have waited until they beat the crap out of him in front of his wife and kid (which they eventually did) and then taken action once it was too late?

And yes, they DID deserve to be run down and killed. That's what self defense is all about. You do something that threatens my life, I have the right to take yours.

I rest my case.

LMAO, done deal I guess


But I know Mr. RedZed is in Colorado, and I don't have any trips planned there yet.

Yay i officially dont have the dumbest post on the forum !! Whew, weight lifted.:roflpuke2:

No that title belongs to me!

Wow this thread blew up ...

IMO, these bikers are a bunch of asshats. I don't think the driver will have a very difficult time convincing a jury that he feared for his life even before he ran over the bikes/biker. And if any further evidence surfaces, I suspect it will only bolster the driver's defense. I will be interested to see how the law is applied in this circumstance.

If I were the driver, you better believe that the first guy I grabbed after a window got busted would have a gun shoved down his throat in a matter of seconds. Also, I would have had my wife on the phone with 911/police immediately after running over the bikes (of course I understand there's a chance this lady didn't speak English) explaining the situation and trying to coordinate a plan of action. I'd like to think that I would have driven towards a police station or something rather than into traffic.

I know I may be in some trouble here
 

I remember not too long ago when many people said that a person(nameless) had NO right to protect himself after his nose was broken & head busted up. :p Ye, if the bikers started beating him through the window, I wouldn't blame him from trying to get away. I only heard that he might have been threatened

Aw ****. You went there. :rofl2:

I think they beat him only AFTER he ran the biker over.... Why would they beat anybody????? Don't car guys drive in groups. Are we looking to assault people???

;) The moderators here appear to be more mature & have some sense of humor.

You think that ^^^^^^ will work??? :)

I think the fact that the police received over 200 phone calls from people complaining about these thugs BEFORE this incident took place will also help his case.

If he gets sued, he should claim he was the victim of a hate crime due to his race.

The bikers attempted entry into the SUV after he bumped a rider after being brake checked. He ran over the guy escaping from that. Seriously, read the article I linked. It lays out the timeline as best we know it at this point.

Are you having a relapse?

Ahh, thanks for the disclaimer. I guess I've not properly seen his posts before. :)

The sad part is that no one came to the rescue after the guy started smashing window with his helmet, what happened to common decency? Everyone is too busy with taking photos and videos. If I have to, the range rover is going back in reverse, bikers must not realize their human chain link is no used against a range rover.

I think if any us were in his shoes and our family's safety was in jeopardy we would've have done the same. I sure would've flatten more than just one of them.

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Rescue?? Why, we gotta record this **** and post it on YouTube for people to link and start threads that go for 16 pages =P

It's a gang of people, I don't think any one person or even a few people would have made a difference. But your right, people should have done something.

The Boondock Saints-
"Monseigneur: And I am reminded on this holy day of the sad story of Kitty Genovese. As you all may remember, long time ago almost 30 years ago. This poor soul cried out for help time and time again, but no person answered her calls. Though many saw, no one so much as called the police. They all just watched as Kitty was being stabbed to death in broad daylight. They watched as her assailant walked away. Now, we must all fear evil men. But, there is another kind of evil which we must fear most … and that is the indifference of good men!
Connor: [as the brothers exit the church] I do believe the Monseigneur's finally got the point.
Murphy: Aye."

Well, of course, we're talking intent (malice) now. This is a difference between manslaughter and murder. Swerve to take out one extra victim that you didn't *need* to take out, and you're in a whole new world.

Dude we don't give a crap about your right or left wing agenda. If you don't want to buy it, pay for $90 and move on. Please do us a favor and don't stick us with the ER bill. Best yet, find a job that has health insurance and don't worry about it