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jlo370z 10-02-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2512786)
Let me guess- sportbike rider?

Please do not confused sport bike riders with these people. these are not sport bike riders. Stunters yes, flash mob on bikes? yes but to stereo type sport bike riders with these tools just not right. Social media/ youtube, the interwebz has created a monster with this type of behavior.

I wish no bodily harm on anyone but all of what happen here was the fault of the biker who stopped for no reason in front of the RR. no stop lights no stop signs no emergency, he had a testosterone filled urge to do something really stupid because he had the mob to protect him. he should be charges with the harm that happen to both the injured biker and the victim in the range rover.

I was a mod on a sportbike forum for years, led tons of group rides, never once where we disrespectful to others on the road. in fact most of our group rides where to areas where others where not so we could enjoy our bikes. and if someone was a tool, he heard it from the group.

I really hate when i see these bikers do this stuff because it gives all other riders a bad name.

want to stunt, go to a industrial park, want to go fast, do it out in the country or the drag strip or the race track, just do it away from others. not that hard, ofcourse i dont think your quads will be able to do that

XiP 10-02-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2513763)
If you're young & female, let's talk. Utherwise:tiphat:

18/f/cali

SuperDave 10-02-2013 06:17 PM

Been following this whole thread, while I have my own opinions, they are in line with most of yours. Ill just drop this here:
LiveLeak.com - Same group of bikers attacking another driver in 2011

andre12031948 10-02-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by XiP (Post 2513773)
18/f/cali

Perfect.

How long would the drive take from Monticello N.Y.????

Cbtech 10-02-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2512939)
Driving without a license is insufficient to characterize someone as being at fault.

I don't know what country you live in but if you're driving/riding a motor vehicle and have no license you are IMMEDIATELY at fault as you should not have been driving a vehicle without the license to do so.

Example:

Had he had a license he most likely would have cited for unsafe lane change
Sacto 9-1-1: Coroner identifies motorcyclist killed near Negro Bar

Had she had a license she might have been sited for speeding and wreckless driving
Darriean Hess arrested, charged in crash that killed bicyclists | SeacoastOnline.com

Had she had a license she might have never been charged.
Allegedly unlicensed driver in fatal Muskegon River flats crash fails to appear in court | MLive.com


etc etc...

Had he not been on the road (brake check biker) breaking the law he would have never been bumped causing the chain of events.

10MPlayer 10-02-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chii370 (Post 2512184)
oh you most certainly do if you end up using it. using its never right, but if you DONT have a license, carry in your car, then shoot someone even in life threatening self defense you will go to jail for a butt poundingly long time. As jacked up as it is, having that license for some reason makes it all ok. :shakes head:

Yep, two words for you: George Zimmerman.

He had a concealed carry license and look what it got him. He's living in hiding with half the population thinking he's a hero and the other half thinking he's a terrorist. I don't carry for that reason. I'm afraid I'd get into a situation like the RR attack and take out a few a-holes then spend the rest of my life in and out of court.

andre12031948 10-02-2013 07:05 PM

just watched on CNN
 
Those bikers were black. Now I'm changing my opinion. Now I don't blame the SUV guy for being scared.

Of course I'm kidding!!! but this story might have some legs now. Well if the driver of the SUV was white. Asian driver? not so sure.

Isn't it sad how this country has turned out. One of the bikers on CNN said that the SUV guy drove like a maniac. I agree with him.

Red__Zed 10-02-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2513808)
I don't know what country you live in but if you're driving/riding a motor vehicle and have no license you are IMMEDIATELY at fault as you should not have been driving a vehicle without the license to do so.

Surely you are trolling. I live in the United States of America, where exactly ZERO of the 50 states determine fault based on licensure. Most states assign fault based on who is at fault, with a couple refusing to assign any fault at all. A simple google search would have made this fact clear to you.



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Example:

Had he had a license he most likely would have cited for unsafe lane change
Sacto 9-1-1: Coroner identifies motorcyclist killed near Negro Bar
You said:
"Had he had a license he most likely would have cited for unsafe lane change"

Article says nothing of the sort. Charges are in-line with behavior.

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/fdf/5ff...lie-b032a8.jpg



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Had she had a license she might have been sited for speeding and wreckless driving
Darriean Hess arrested, charged in crash that killed bicyclists | SeacoastOnline.com
Article says nothing of the sort. Charges are in-line with behavior. Your misspelling of "reckless" is a nice touch.

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/fdf/5ff...lie-b032a8.jpg


Article says nothing of the sort. Charges are in-line with behavior, especially since most of them are related to failure to appear

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/fdf/5ff...lie-b032a8.jpg



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etc etc...

Had he not been on the road (brake check biker) breaking the law he would have never been bumped causing the chain of events.

You also seem very confused about the chain of events. The biker that was rear-ended appears to have had his license suspended following the event, which would indicate he had a license during.

Red__Zed 10-02-2013 07:32 PM

Here's an easily digestible link for you on the topic:
I was in a minor car accident with an unlicensed but insured driver in NYS. Is that party at fault? - Avvo.com

I'm out for a bit traveling, will catch up on this thread next week.

Z_ealot 10-02-2013 07:41 PM

well looks like the original video containing the HD version that you can see one of the bikers trying to yank the range rovers drivers door open has been tooken down by the biker who posted it...little suspicious don't ya think? so, sorry red i can't get a screen shot now, but trust me if that video were to pop up again online somewhere in HD, please take a real close look at it and you can see what im talking about.

Cbtech 10-02-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2513850)
One of the bikers on CNN said that the SUV guy drove like a maniac. I agree with him.

You're kidding right? did you watch the video that i watched? after he got out of the circle of bikers he maintained his lane and even slowed to a stop when they tried to box him in. The only fault i can see in the RR driver was that he was still too concerned with the rules of the road. When he got stuck behind the traffic he stopped and felt he had no where to go but just sit there. If it were me and my family in jeopardy there would have been even more injured bikers because I would have popped that bish in reverse EVEN if you're not involved. if its me and my family vs. you or anyone else...ill give your mom a flower at your funeral.

Red__Zed 10-02-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 2513889)
well looks like the original video containing the HD version that you can see one of the bikers trying to yank the range rovers drivers door open has been tooken down by the biker who posted it...little suspicious don't ya think? so, sorry red i can't get a screen shot now, but trust me if that video were to pop up again online somewhere in HD, please take a real close look at it and you can see what im talking about.

Cool. Interested to see it. Will help RR guy's case if they can show that.

andre12031948 10-02-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2513890)
You're kidding right? did you watch the video that i watched? after he got out of the circle of bikers he maintained his lane and even slowed to a stop when they tried to box him in. The only fault i can see in the RR driver was that he was still too concerned with the rules of the road. When he got stuck behind the traffic he stopped and felt he had no where to go but just sit there. If it were me and my family in jeopardy there would have been even more injured bikers because I would have popped that bish in reverse EVEN if you're not involved. if its me and my family vs. you or anyone else...ill give your mom a flower at your funeral.

Stopping traffic on a highway stopped all the cars. Only that guy started running over the bikers. You better have a very, very good reason before you start running over/killing people. Don't you think?

Chuck33079 10-02-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2513907)
Stopping traffic on a highway stopped all the cars. Only that guy started running over the bikers. You better have a very, very good reason before you start running over/killing people. Don't you think?

Now you're just being willfully dense. He had a good reason. They stopped him and tried to get into the vehicle with his family inside. Have you still not read any news about this event?

andre12031948 10-02-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2513927)
Now you're just being willfully dense. He had a good reason. They stopped him and tried to get into the vehicle with his family inside. Have you still not read any news about this event?

Since they didn't hurt him that bad after he ran that guy over, and they didn't touch his family, why would he think & what did he think they wanted before. Maybe if he opened his window a bit & asked what? Nothing would have happened. That's what I would do. If I cut someone off or not, I would say sorry pal. Case could have been closed after that. These guys didn't look like they were going to rape & kill them & sell the kid into slavery :icon17:


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