How much do you think Nissan 400Z will cost?
 

How much do you think Nissan 400Z will cost? It seems like Nissan want to compete against the Toyota Supra. What's your take on what should be the starting price for the new Z and what options or packages will it have?

Depends on the HP numbers.

Also depends on whether Nissan wants to play with Supra or stay below it.... For one I hope the pricing is a bit higher than the current base... If it is near the Supra, it will be a no go for me...

Time will tell, as it gets closer to the release date.....

Did the new Z made this forum come out from the dead?

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I guess the good question would be is the new Z35 would have a huge following and resurface the old Z peeps coming back to this forum?

35k to 48K

More than 50K it would kill it like the Supra

In a year the site will be renamed the400Z.com, and we will all get kicked out, to make room for the new model.

Oh I didnt think about that!!!.....I was fun being with you guys! :tup:

We would be extinct next year. :ugh2:

Because the current 2020 370Z has an MSRP of 30k to 46k depending on trim
I would guess 40k to 56k.

competing price with the Supra I would think. Id imagine there will be a trim level that isnt turbo'd though, so probably low 40s for that one.

If we’re going to see a price that competes with the Supra .... what are Supra sales numbers? I honestly don’t know, have never seen one in the wild. If the numbers are strong then yeah, weak numbers, then maybe a lower price point. :twocents:

They need to make it cheaper than the Supra but offer more horsepower. Shouldn’t be hard since they already have an engine capable of it without working up a sweat and the chassis is derived from the present Z. The BMW Supra is dead if this happens, fake vents and all.

My guess; $35k Base, Sport $38k, Touring, $40k, Nismo $45k. Has to stay below the Q60 or it'll just cannibalize internally.

The Supra is a disappointment, it’s a rebadged bmw. The new z will be in the same price range and as long as they don’t make a rebadge q60 ref sport it will
So well

I'm guessing 5k over current pricing all around, keeping the entry point considerably lower than the Supra's.

That's my thought as well.

I'm thinking along these lines too. Nissan is pitted against being competitive against the Supra, below the Q60, but also not too far from the upcoming GR86.

Best way to figure out pricing is to consider the Q60 line.

Subtract for: sunroof, backseats, AWD option, mandatory leather, mandatory 7AT, dual screen infotainment, Infiniti surcharge, etc.

I'm going to guess, using the Q60 as a basis, subtract at least $5K-6K starting with "entry" models.

I'm predicting the VR30 will come in 3 tunes:
-about 300HP "base"
-about 400HP "upgrade"
-possibly 450 Nismo? Hope so.

I also predict that the AT will NOT be the 7AT, but will instead utilize the new 9AT.
The Z won't be called "400Z", that's not ever how Datsun and Nissan named these cars, and HP will be all over the place from base to Nismo.

I hope I can get a 400HP 6MT with cloth interior for $36-37K and I'd be very happy.

-Launch Edition: $47k - 400HP 3.0V6TT, limited production, comes in the yellow Z Proto color or 1-2 other base colors, Leather interior with the yellow contrast stitching, heated seats, Brembo brakes, new 20" Sport wheels in Bronze color, Sport exhaust, and carbon fiber exterior parts

-Sport: $40k - 400HP 3.0V6TT, Leather interior but no interior contrast stitching, heated seats, Brembo brakes, new 20" Sport wheels in standard color, standard exhaust, carbon fiber optional

-Base: $35k - 300-330HP (maybe the 400HP version) 3.0V6TT, Cloth interior with no interior contrast stitching or heated seats, standard brakes, standard 18" wheels, standard exhaust, no carbon fiber

I don't see them having "tech" or "touring" lines anymore because a lot of tech, such as backup cameras, are standard/mandatory in new production cars in the US. I'm sure the new dash and infotainment will be standard across all configurations as well.

I also don't see any version of the new Z being priced above $47k, besides the Nismo when it releases. The new Z is primarily going up against the Supra 3.0 Premium, Mustang GT, Camaro SS, and Dodge Charger/Challenger Scat pack. All of these cars, besides the Supra, start at or below $41k. All of them, besides the Supra, also have anywhere from 455-485hp. The new Supra now being rated for 382hp.
Now, of course the GT, SS, and Scatpack will end up weighing nearly 400-1000lbs more than the new Z, but regardless they still deliver good power and some of those cars are still selling really well in the current market.

The only way I see the new Z being really successful is by disrupting the competitive market with a complete bargain. The new Z has the potential to do that. I think Nissan will undercut the Supra, but align pricing with the American sports cars it competes with.

While the infotainment screen will 100% be standard, I am not so sure about the digital dash. Even if you look at alot of the luxury brands, they come with an analog gauge cluster on the base trim level and a digital dash only when you pay up for a higher trim level. It is very likely we will see a refreshed version of the existing 370Z gauge cluster for the new base model.

As for the infotainment, while all trims will get the screen standard, only the higher trim levels will get built in navigation and they may also exclude things like (wireless?) Android Auto/Car Play from the base model.

As for other tech features, not only are back up cameras mandatory now as you mentioned, 2022 onwards automatic emergency braking will become mandatory on all new vehicles. So while the base model will have to come with automatic braking standard, I see higher trim levels coming with things like adaptive cruise control to keep the 'tech' differential between the low and high trim levels.

These digital display dashes are a funny development. People think they look cool, but they actually cost less, it's just an LCD display, not complicated electro-mechanical gauges. These cars that are using big LCD displays for everything (like Tesla) are saving lots of money with not having to have physical buttons and dedicated displays all over the car.

Recently bought a 2020 Corolla Hatchback SE for the wife, it's the lowest model. It comes with all of that stuff, standard, for $20K. Something to think about, Nissan may include all of the driving aids even on the base trim.

Hope they make it expensive so that we don't have a bunch of teenagers driving around and crashing them thinking they got a fast car. I've already seen a couple teens with new Supra's

Lol, teens in riced out 90s Civics with fart can exhausts think they have fast cars.

Now, if it's teenagers rolling in new Zs and Supras; then they actually do have a fast car.

Even scarier: Teens in Teslas. Yup. My friend lets his teens drive their Tesla Model 3....yikes

Today's standard cars are rolling with 400+. That was back in the days of fast and the furious when we thought 300-400hp were the ****. Nowadays that's hella slow.

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I think it will be cheaper than Supra.
The reason is that Supra uses German tech (engine, gearbox..etc.) and (generally speaking) these are probably more expensive than japanese tech.

BTW nowadays there is a big sale on the Supra going on (here in Dubai). About 15,000 USD less than the original price.

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Sounds about right. I've only seen 2 Supras out in the wild since it was introduced. And personally, I think our 10 yr old design Zs look much better!

I've seen 1.
And I have seen a dozen or more C8 Corvettes in the last week.
And were I live Tesla Model 3's seem to outnumber Corollas now!

But yeah, only 1 Supra.
I bet when the new Z comes out you'll see several times more new Z's on the road than BMW Supras.

I think the BMW Supra is a tough pill for a Toyota fanboi to swallow. I am very grateful Nissan is making their own car.

40-60k pending package. :ugh2:

50 to70 k base, in the usa . As the us dollar vs the yen will be the reason as the national debt is now 1.3 the GDP of this/our country .and the yen will remain static.you will never see a new z car in the usa. low mile newer 370 aa condition are selling for Hugh$ today and.not going/offering cars to UK makes almost sure that it is not coming here ,especially as another 2008 depression is just days away .i tried to buy the last 370 nismo in the country , from Texas and the dealer would not budge .he has had it for 300 days in his showroom and has started a price war. i will still try to buy it probably will be over sticker just to have the last Z in the usa.it will make 3 Zs in my hangar.

I am pretty sure it will be $34,999 for the base Z. That will be with 400HP (maybe slightly more) and a manual transmission. Adding the S package (sport) will add $5,000 to the price tag. The T package (tech) will also add $5,000 to the price tag and can be added separately from the S package.If you want the ST package, including both the sport and tech packages, it will be $10,000 over the base model. So $44,999 for the top trim until the Nismo model comes out.

I heard that the Nismo model will have more than what we've seen in the 350 and the 370. In the past it has added a slight bump in power, a body kit with different color schemes available, some weight savings to counter upgrades and an upgraded brake package with a few other minor things. I heard the new Z Nismo will have significantly more power (50+HP), handling upgrades along with upgraded exterior visual effects, weight savings (maybe just enough to counter the added parts but hopefully a lower weight than the base!) and some minor interior cues reminding you that you have the Nismo. I do not know what that would cost but I would imagine $10k over the top trim, so maybe $54,999 seams about right and still very competitive.

Time will tell.

I would want a loaded nismo, which I would think would be about 55k maxed out. Considering a top of the line Q60 goes for 65k it would make since for the nismo Z to be 10k less.

Sport $39K
Performance $46K
Nismo when the time comes $55K

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$38,995 Sport Performance $44,995. Maybe

Nissan has managed to cobble together a very nice new Z from their existing parts bin, is trying to dig itself out of a deep hole and they want to deliver a halo car that will attract a lot of attention.

The 370Z chassis is great and will be tweaked for the 400Z, with a lot more HP and torque, it will almost certainly match (or better) the Supra.

My wife drives the 2009 370Z I bought new (58k miles) and it's still a blast to drive, imagine the 400Z will be similar with 15% better acceleration, improved handling, braking and creature comforts.

My belief is that Nissan has a winner here and I'm looking forward to it.

WOW buy a new one and park it , because a used jap import 2009 in manual is like 36-48K NZ$ now . . 48k nz$ is 30K USD

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...ch-188515.html

"According to the Japanese brand, the 2023 Z will be on sale in Australia from mid-2022 with just two grades – a standard specification going for an MSRP of AUD 73,300 and the Z Proto Spec that jumps to AUD 80,700 (plus “statutory charges or other on-road costs”). That translates to $51,215 for the base trim, and also to $56,381 at the current exchange rates, which is certainly a hefty asking price."

Yikes! That means it will be very similarly priced in Canada, maybe slightly less. Anything close to 70k$ Canadian is an absolute no-go for me. I think I’ll be hanging on to my Nismo.

Low mileage C7 GS's are like what, $50-60k?

This new Z is gonna be a hard sell if they're asking for $55+k for the trim that will be desirable. Looks like $60k or more for a Nismo trim, going by the current trends.

Vette > Z / It's a no brainer at that price point.


Would be great if:
$40k Base, $45k Performance / proto, $50k Nismo. Too bad these numbers seem to be a pipe dream now.