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goeagles11 02-14-2020 12:09 AM
400hp twin turbo Z with a manual should eat the new Supra alive. Make it happen Nissan.

xfrgtr 02-14-2020 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by goeagles11 (Post 3908499)
400hp twin turbo Z with a manual should eat the new Supra alive. Make it happen Nissan.
2021 Toyota Supra

The 3.0-liter turbocharged inline-6 returns and produces 382 hp instead of last year's 335, while torque is 368 lb-ft up from the previous 365. Toyota said the power increase comes from a new six-port dual-branch exhaust manifold (last year's model had two ports), revised heat management, and a new piston design that reduced the engine's compression from 11:1 to 10.2:1.

The increased power output also increases performance with the last year's 0 to 60 sprint of 4.1 seconds dropping to 3.9 seconds, though top speed remains electronically limited at 155 mph.

Rusty 02-14-2020 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by xfrgtr (Post 3908526)
2021 Toyota Supra

The 3.0-liter turbocharged inline-6 returns and produces 382 hp instead of last year's 335, while torque is 368 lb-ft up from the previous 365. Toyota said the power increase comes from a new six-port dual-branch exhaust manifold (last year's model had two ports), revised heat management, and a new piston design that reduced the engine's compression from 11:1 to 10.2:1.

The increased power output also increases performance with the last year's 0 to 60 sprint of 4.1 seconds dropping to 3.9 seconds, though top speed remains electronically limited at 155 mph.
Why they making changes to an engine that's only been out for one year? Makes one wonder.

FPenvy 02-14-2020 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3908535)
Why they making changes to an engine that's only been out for one year? Makes one wonder.
i dont think it's an issues with the engine but more on the side that it needs more unlocked to compete.

makes sense to just put it on par with what the engine puts out in the BMW cars that it is in. kinda hurts your sales if a 240 m power outruns you top end toyota sports car.

that was always funny to me when they announced the power figures......then the price :bowrofl:

Zingston 02-14-2020 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3908535)
Why they making changes to an engine that's only been out for one year? Makes one wonder.


The Corvette happened?

Ive still not seen one of these foolass Supras in the wild yet? Are they selling well?

Ghostvette 02-14-2020 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3908546)
The Corvette happened?

Ive still not seen one of these foolass Supras in the wild yet? Are they selling well?
I've seen one here in KC. The owner used to work for Aeromotive. He works for an axle/driveshaft company that makes race stuff. :eek:

tvfreakazoid 02-14-2020 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by goeagles11 (Post 3908499)
400hp twin turbo Z with a manual should eat the new Supra alive. Make it happen Nissan.
Most likely not. No way a man or women can shift faster than a zf tranny.
And we know the bmw supra down played the hp amd tq.

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tvfreakazoid 02-14-2020 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by xfrgtr (Post 3908526)
2021 Toyota Supra



The 3.0-liter turbocharged inline-6 returns and produces 382 hp instead of last year's 335, while torque is 368 lb-ft up from the previous 365. Toyota said the power increase comes from a new six-port dual-branch exhaust manifold (last year's model had two ports), revised heat management, and a new piston design that reduced the engine's compression from 11:1 to 10.2:1.



The increased power output also increases performance with the last year's 0 to 60 sprint of 4.1 seconds dropping to 3.9 seconds, though top speed remains electronically limited at 155 mph.
But we know supras hp of 335hp wasnt the real numbers. When it was dynoed, it was closer to 400hp. So the question is, is it just a software tune? Ecu and maybe a TCU tune?

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Rusty 02-14-2020 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3908546)
The Corvette happened?

Ive still not seen one of these foolass Supras in the wild yet? Are they selling well?
I have yet to see one.

Spooler 02-14-2020 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3908567)
I have yet to see one.
Yeap, just like the old days. I would see many 300zxtt cars and never a turbo Supra back in the 1990's.

goeagles11 02-14-2020 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 3908550)
Most likely not. No way a man or women can shift faster than a zf tranny.
And we know the bmw supra down played the hp amd tq.

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I mean sales figures :). I just think most enthusiasts interested in a RWD sports coupe want a manual transmission.

Even with the new/cheaper 2.0L Supra being announced I don't see Supra sales improving too much.

z-ya-later 02-14-2020 12:04 PM
I've seen 3 of the new Supras since launch including one this week on my commute. That one could've just been a test drive for all I know. They are very, very rare.

Firebase99 02-14-2020 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by z-ya-later (Post 3908600)
I've seen 3 of the new Supras since launch including one this week on my commute. That one could've just been a test drive for all I know. They are very, very rare.
I saw my first one last week, looked good too.

Zezus 02-14-2020 02:46 PM
one of the local guys has a widebody one in advan livery.
it looks pretty effin cool. It was cool enough that my non car friends were like "holy sh*t! what is that thing!?"
They never care about cars so that says something.

TobinH 02-14-2020 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by goeagles11 (Post 3908499)
400hp twin turbo Z with a manual should eat the new Supra alive. Make it happen Nissan.
I think it would be more interesting as a NA car. I think an updated and enlarged VQ with direct injection could make 400 crank hp, and the fact that they're apparently putting such an updated engine into the next Frontier makes it a possibility.

but the VR30 is the obvious choice, so if they do update the Z they'll probably go that direction.


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