This is kinda off topic, but is in regards to the VR30DDTT engine that we hope the next Z will get. Have you guys seen the development updates? It's freaking awesome. There's no real need to get the Red Sport since the turbine sensor was initially a limiting factor preventing tuners from extracting more power, but they've remedied that. Plus, the main difference between the 300HP and 400HP trim is the additional cooling capacity and turbine sensor.

One can opt for the "simpler" 300HP model, upgrade the heat exchanger, down pipe, exhaust, and tune. The result is north of 400 hp and 450 lb-ft at the wheels. AMS upgraded the pistons, rods, and turbos, and they're able to get 800 whp. So that's great progress, which allows the platform to mature for the future Z.

I'm hoping for something sleek and fairly simple and raw like the "Pure" models for the Q and GT-R, but with a manual transmission.

Were you at ZDAYZ? You are spot on. When I was talking to a couple the Nissan folks that were there they stated the same thing. The one said to me...there really isn't much difference between this engine and the GTR as it is basically the same platform just smaller!

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LOL, I talked to the head guy and ask that they use this engine platform for the new Z. I also asked that it be named a 300Z since the numbers have always matched the displacement. I did say that the Nismo version should have the Red Sport engine and that they should bring back the 2009 to 2014 rear wing. I hate the 2015 to current spoiler. The old Nismo RAY's look much better also. If they do this I will
pick up a new one and turn my current ride into a track beast.

if you get a Q60, plus upgrades to match GT-R power, you'd be at the same cost, weight, but slower and uglier........

i'll stick with the GT-R :tup:

Same here. If they did what you said I would swap mine in a heartbeat!! I even agree with the old nismo wing as well.

A lot can be said about any money we put in our cars, and you're right. The money put in the non-RS Q60 is enough to get a used GT-R. A few friends bought Corvettes since it's a performance bargain out of the box. Looks-wise, that's subjective. Power-wise, there's always going to be faster cars.

My dream car is the classic NSX. It's a timeless design with a very simple and ergonomic interior, great gearbox (MT YEA!), and engine. Power-wise, it lags behind the Civic Type-R. Cost-wise, it's ridiculous.

I've had several friends try to get me back in the car hobby and suggest I get an old car to restore. First, I live in an apartment now (sold house, 2 weeks in), and I don't have time and space for all that lol. Second, I'm not going to waste money on something I don't fully like even though what I really like is out of reach.

yea i agree and everyone has different tastes, budgets, etc...

more or less it was my personal view on it. its a Q60, plus at least 10k in upgrades, same weight, lesser awd system, etc...

now you buy a Q60 used and save 10-15k then youre ahead of the game.

there's many different ways to go about cars and mods. i was throwing my 2 cents into the mix here. also, i can finally speak from the other side and not be torched since i now have a GT-R and not the guys just saying i am buying one :stirthepot:

Havent seen it in person i think its shopped

i'll take a pic with my nuts on the steering wheel. i'll even pen my forum name on them with a sharpie for you :nutswinger:

:wtf2::wtf2::wtf2:

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After i take a test drive:inoutroflpuke:

you mean test ride.......

you're funny thinkin i'm gonna let anyone, let alone an asian, drive my new car :bowrofl:

Hows about a fellow Italian????

I promise I'll be like this :driving:

I know...:gtfo2:

I'd have the same rules as you do...

well above all else you're from Cleveland. thats almost as bad as being from Philly :wtf2: