I don't think the q60 coupe is directly competing with the m2. Reviews say the m2 is a great driver's car but not really much in the luxury dept. The q60 is more likely undercutting the m4 in both price and performance or maybe trying up one up the 340.

Q60 coupe vs m2 assuming similar price points:

Q60
probably roomier
more luxury/GT/comfy
more hp stock (the 400hp variant because that's the only one we're all interested in)

m2
smaller and more nimble, probably a bit lighter
more engaging/fun drive

A 400hp Nismo z35 would probably be a better cross shop with the m2 in terms of performance and driving fun, though with no backseat.

it may have more horsepower but it is also heavier than the m2. it's at 3,450lbs where the q60 will probably be close to what 3,800-4,000lbs full equipped???

I am going off the assumption (perhaps too optimistic) that it will weigh similar tot he m4 which is I think around 200 lbs heavier than the m2.

The only reason I'd buy a $60K Z35 is if it's significantly faster than an M4 and tops out at that price, fully loaded.

depends which kind of m4 you get... they range from 3,300-4,055lbs lol.
it all depends on what the Z will weigh and how much power it produces... with it having 400hp and being the same weight it is now, i don't see it beating an m4. my friend owns a m4 and it hauls ***. when i drive my z after it feels like it's a civic lol

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I still don't know if I would still put the Q60 in front of the Cadillac ATS V for that matter if you are looking at luxury gt sedan in the m4 category .

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Have an idea that if/when Nissan releases the next Z. We'll see if Nissan has spent more time screwing the pooch then designing the car. :rolleyes:

I honestly hate the q60 design.

The rear end is very nice, until you look at the bottom where the painted body flows underneath the black plastic near the exhaust.

Side profile drives me crazy. They have the stupid kink in the window, a Hyundai Genesis character line crease, and then an out of place vent near the front wheel.

The front-end is very nice until you see that terrible hood crease coming straight across.

I'm not sure what the power to weight ratio on this car will be, but if it weighs north of 3600lbs with only around 3-350hp it's already an under-performer.

I said the same thing. :tiphat:

I wouldn't put too much hope in that. Lighter will be defined in part by safety standards and power to weight. All it has to do is outperform the current Z.

My guess is, they want to boast it's 60-0 braking and 0-60 are all a bit better, so the weight change will likely be relative to the power.

I guess we'll find out...


I could be totally wrong here, but really, cost savings. The more they can loot the Q parts bin the better. The big changes should be in weight, handling, braking, and maybe tune.

I expect the rest of the drive train to basically follow whatever is offered for the Q (except for the AWD, I would guess), and the Z will almost certainly have a LSD option for the midlevel and up trim.

Also, they don't want to price themselves totally out of the running vs. Mustang and Camaros.

Realistically it will also mean fewer warranty issues if every version isn't boosted, but I guess we'll see.

Saw this on newsstand today.
That's supposed to be a future Z front and center on cover
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Same thing we saw in January.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ew-z35-84.html

Hmm.... wonder if they will just rebadge the Renault Alpine and call it a Z? Most likely not but you never know.

I just want the NISMO IDX....