2013 Z @ nissanusa. base+sport A7 $40k???
 

So i built the new Z @ the website equal to my current Z which is a fully loaded base sport auto. All that said... my Z lacks oil cooler, new fascia, red brakes, revised shocks led lights and now they get the red button standard. I installed mine. My cars msrp was $37,400 before ttl. I payed 37k flat, total.
The new car is $39,570. I bet building a touring would throw it above $45k? Its good because it keeps the value of older ones a little higher BUT... Do you think @ these prices the Z is still a good value??? a loaded Z touring in 09 ran about 41k and could be had for $38k. Is there enough done to the Z to warrant these high increases... Thoughts.

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well everything went up around 1k respectively, so if you payed 41 for full and its running 45, maybe not. There was very minimal changes performance wise, the only thing you would be paying for is some aesthetics and fascia change....would you pay a few extra grand for a change in plastic?

I think now, the value of a new 370Z is getting harder to justify. The differences are small, and the 3-4k price creep sine 2009 (might be more, might be less) would be enough to buy a new facia, new shocks, LEDS, start button, brake powdercoat, and oil cooler. If you think about the cost difference between those and what we already have, it's almost nothing. The only tangible upgrades are addition of LEDs and oil cooler, and aftermarket coolers are much better.
at $41-45,000, the price is firmly in G37 territory, which is much more luxurious inside.

Anyone paying anywhere close to MSRP for a '13 Z is being foolish.

Seen a 13 for 45.5k with nav touring lol so yea

I thought a base Z is right around $32K? That's still great value for what you get.

About 7K more than a base FR-S and about 5K more than a base BRZ -- and you get a LOT more car for that extra cash.

Also, MSRP is always high. The goal is to get the car as close to invoice as possible ;)

WOW! Nissan really ran their prices up dam!!!!!!! My sticker in 2010 was $34,400. Now for the exact same car its $37,600

It's mainly high given the fact that salaries don't tend to jump a few grand every year... otherwise, especially going by JPY to USD conversions, it's probably not too bad.

If that's a 2013 price, it went up an average of around 1 K a year.

I don't care what the reason is but that is getting close to $40k and thats way to much for a base+sport Z. A car with no power seats, horrible stereo, and really no other frills.

Wow 40k for base!

No almost 38 for base+Sport

$36,150 for base + sport 6MT

But yeah, auto with destination is $38K.

No extra charge for the ugly. :tiphat:

Yea plus carpeted floor mats, carpeted trunk mat, light up door sills and mud flaps. The my car configuration.

I would say the majority of this is being caused by the current dollar vs yen fiasco. The Z has pretty much gone up 4k since it debuted in 2009 and there certainly haven't been any changes to the car that justify that kind of increase.

So to answer the original question, no I don't think this car is a good value anymore for the price, and trying to pass this off as an affordable sports car isn't gonna fly anymore. I never thought I would say this, but frankly, I think both the V-6 and V-8 Mustang are just about the best bang for the buck you can get right now.

problem with the mustangs are the 2 piece spark plugs getting broke in the heads.no good.a mechanic friend of mine refuses to work on the newer mustangs because of this.so pick your poison wisely.that is alot of money for a base.i would suggest finding a slightly used one so the original buyer will take the hit instead.;)

Wrong brother... it starts at 33,120 for a base manual and 36,150 for a base+sport. That's with no accesories, mats or backup camera. Or no automatic. Load it up its $39;570:
A basic touring is $37,820 and a tour sport is 40,850: all prices with no options.

A fully loaded to the max touring is 45,681... at this price range, a car like the 302 BOSS, camaro ZL1 make for a better deal. You get more for your money... But the Z IS SPECIAL FROM AN EMOTIONAL STANDPOINT.. from a priice standpoint. Its quickly flopping.

Those better be some magic shocks they put in the 2013 and I hope they tweaked the engine and tranmission to put down 4.5-4.8 on the auto/manuals consistantly in spite of no power number increase. It better feel awesome now and I hope they fixed the weak exhaust note. Also I'm hoping the cooler does more on aggressive driving. If all of this has been achieved??? The Z may be a bargain still. But my gut tells me this car didn't get shyt done????

Hopefully, some members that owned earlier years that traded can school us. I'm lining up for my test drive. Having owned a 9 and 11. I think i'd make a decent judge of the changes???


ADDED INFO: I just configured a Nismo. To my shock, the bose was an option. When i added all accesories it was $46,140. The manual leather seats DID NOT carry over from japan to the USa for the refresh. Wow. Nissan disappointment. My next car may be a Hyundai. lol. They havent even gotten a new gencoupe, its a refresh and they saw power boosts and serious feature upgrades. Imagine the second gen gen... painful disappointment nissan.

I would have to agree with those that feel the Z has lost its performance value. with the tiny changes yet large price increase over years all i can say is it is still a great performing car with great looks but not a huge bang for your buck.

Wait i take that back the looks use to be great along with the price.

Does anyone have any background info on the reasoning for the price increases? I'm pretty positive no other vehicle in Nissan's lineup has had anything near a 4k price increase over the last 4 years. (excluding GTR)

They do it to help the 09 owners on resale

I was planning to buy a fully loaded touring convertible 6mt, but after i saw the 50k sticker price, i decided i'd rather put in a little more money and get a Vette instead......

As much as I hate to say it this is exactly what I was thinking. 45+ and your starting to get in Vette territory. I hate the interior and build quality on them but 400+HP in a car that weighs as much or less then our Z's is pretty sweet.

Go to the Corvette forum and look for their vendors, they have crazy deals on Corvettes usually, $5-10K off MSRP is not uncommon

Was looking on autotrader and there is a dealer in VA selling loaded Tourings w/ Sport for a little over $50K!!!:eek:

For now. Wait 3 months and show faint interest and see how many times they call to make a deal. They still have some 11's out there and 12's. No rush at all. Im working multiple dealers on my blue sport/7AT. I know exactly what Im going to pay them. I already have a buyer for my 2010. No rush at all.....

Yes, MSRP's are high! But like DLSTR says, don't rush.

It's not like 370Z's are flying off the dealer lots now and with higher prices, it will slow down even more. Nissan dealers are willing to negotiate when it comes to the Z, they don't want to be stuck with inventory that's $40K each.

I'll disclose the price on my 13 on order, after I receive it and it's a totally done deal in about 2 weeks. But right now, it's not much over invoice.

Wow.

Every time more info comes out about the 2013, I'm sure glad I got a 2012. It has most of the bugs worked out (sans the brakes maybe), had a relatively low price, and still had the better looks. So so glad I got the 12.

I don't get this thread.

Prices inflate every year, fools pay MSRP, the Z is still a fun car for the money. You want a great price, drop some standards and shop in Mid-November.

Its not just the Z, Premium Tech Maximas were 38900 in 2009, they are now 41500. Muranos went up a few thousand as well. I think all the Japanese manufacturers lost alot of money with the Tsunami and are passing that cost onto the consumer. I don't agree with it, but it's reality.

BTW- forget MSRP- 13s to anyone in the Northeast at invoice from me, and 12s from my inventorey are 1500 below!!!!! (2 touring sport 6 speeds with back - up cam left white with black and black with orange)

Nice man. Yea I'm working on getting a 12 model just because of the price difference right now. Plus I want a solid red not the new magma red >.< that's just me being picky hehe.

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I don't know what the big deal is. Compare it to the more powerful Hyundai and the Z is still the better car. I don't think Nissan really compares it to that car anyways. They see the Z as a less expensive alternative to a Boxster/Cayman or BMW Z4. If you compare it those cars, the Z is still a bargin since those cars have shown price increases also. The Vette is a fantastic car, but it's design is twice as old as the Z. It hasn't changed much since 2004. I really wouldn't worry about the MSRP price since that's not usually what you end up paying anyways.

^^That's nuts.

Those prices are crazy!:eek: I just picked up my '12 touring/sport with navigation, clear bra, mud gaurds and wheel locks for $42,800 out the door.:tup:

It's not that crazy if you compare MSRP Prices.

with taxes?

Generally, Out the door includes everything, including taxes and title.

That's a freaking good deal then.

Yep, that was my total drive out price. 0% interest financing to boot:happydance:

You got a nice deal Newto :tup:

2013 6mt Touring w/spt pkg & nav invoice price is $40,301. The price I listed is without taxes, reg/license, clear bra, mud guards, wheel locks, carpet.

Assuming someone can get a dealer to sell it to them at invoice, it will still be higher than OP's price.

Enjoy your ride :driving:

yea, with 7at invoice is 41700 for me, and then there is a huge tt&l bump to the price :P

biggest rip off ever, doesnt Nissan realize they still havent even built a respectable track ready car? thats freaking embarrassing that you pay all that money but you still need to major weight reduction and better brakes and rims if youre even trying to hang with the big dogs on the track. Fukkk that ide rather buy a used Z06 or BOSS, SHelby,IS-F, so many freaking better cars no disrespect...

But it's not the Z with it's sleek and sexy look.