Congrats big guy......

i have officially decided that EVEN THOUGH i love the led and wheels and the fact it comes with red brake calipers...i dont love the fanglessness enough to bend on our original price whatsoever. so either they come down alllll the way to that price and eat what they have to. OR. they find me the exact 2012 to my specs.

i keep staring at pics of BLACK 2012 front ends. it just seems like seeing the 2013 in this magma red makes the lack of fangs more obvious. im wondering what your guys' opinion is since this car will be black; will the lack of fangs be as noticeable as we all think?

People [without black cars] often have the notion that because the car is black, most features aren't seen due to also being black. Yet those with black cars can still see the features. Mine is black and even though, I still notice every curve and detail of my car. Just sucks on doing matte/CF mods due to the fact it's practically black accenting black. :icon17:

OMG! its a girl!

It's okay, it's not what you think...

http://www.the370z.com/members/xwchr...ure26702-a.jpg

I personally wouldn't take a '13 over the '12 cuz I don't care for the redesigned front bumper eliminating the fangs and adding the led's. I don't care for the new wheels either. So if it were me I would tell them to find a '12 in the combo you want if they can. If not you will either have to settle for a black on black to keep the '12 and fangs or go with the '13 model. With the car being black the fangs aren't as noticable on as on a lighter color car. However you will still notice the difference in the front end. There are alot of people that black out the fangs on non-black Z's.

dont know what your exact specs were on the touring model you ordered, or how far you are willing to look for the car... but i know there is a black 2011 touring 6spd left over with like 15 miles on it still sitting at a dealer near me in NY.

Basically, what you need to think about and break down is, okay you want a 2012 or older right?

Touring...
Manual or Auto...

Those are the Important things. Trust me, I wanted illuminated door sills on mine, but they didn't have a black one the way I wanted coming this way for months, so I went without the sills. I've been happy ever since even though it wasn't Exactly what I wanted.

That being said, I know you're working with a local dealer, but give FuszNissan a PM shout and see if he can work for you as well. He found my Z inbound before the dealership even knew they were getting it. He might be able to find you a 2012 still on a lot. He can get it purchased and shipped to your local dealer. :tup:

Sara, you tell me the fangs aren't as noticeable on a black '12 Z... here's mine..

http://www.zsport.org/forum/attachme...8&d=1333774764

Thanks for all of the advice guys, it really helps. my specs are

2012 or older
Touring
Auto
Sports
Navigation
Magnetic black exterior
Persimmon interior

dang. its a hard decision. it would be hard to walk away from a 2013 being made for me as we speak (and risk them not being able to find a 2012 in june...thats when i will have the exact amount of money i want to give them) just for this freaking fang issue. but the 2009-2012 is what i fell in love with. i like the 2013 and many things about it, but it makes me nervous that ive never seen the thing in real life and on top of that ive never ever seen it in black, even on the internet, due to the fact it is only being shown it its premiere color. gosh im irritated and stressed. maybe a couple days to think about it would be good

Buy 13' then buy 09-12 bumper from the classifieds for like 200$?
Maybe someone can photoshop black on the 13' Z pics.

do you have an album?

It's understandable, and anyone going through this issue would tell you they've all felt the same. But the key point is, this is the 2nd largest investment in your life, and it's your transportation. Not to mention that, but it's an enthusiast car. So it's more then that. Sit down and decide what YOU want. And that may take a week or an hour, but don't be pressured into a half honest decision based on whats in front of you right now, or what you might have to wait for.

The biggest thing going for you is you're not worried about the funding. You'll have it when you're ready. So don't jump on something that's not 100% what you want just because it's available. I'm pretty sure somewhere in this country there is a Z with your name on it, with all those features you just listed. Are you strictly looking at new, or would you be open to a used one in good condition?

how practical would that be though considering it looks like the leds are built into the bumper? i mean, i dont completely hate it. so you are ordering a 2013....see not everyone hates fangless you guys! :)

Not very considering why are you buying a car that you have to mod a bumper to make it presentable. :ugh2: