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sunstate09 03-11-2011 06:25 PM

cars are cheap---- life is price less think about it!

MC 03-11-2011 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 982146)
Sorry, OP -- reality is a ****.




i dont see why you are being so self righteous about this.. i saw your thread in the off topic about
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go fvck yourself. You are a self-centered twat, and I am ashamed of you
it was closed before i could reply

thats pretty stupid and uncalled for to judge someones moral character based on that ....here is why... i havent read one single post with someone saying who cares about the people i just want my car... everyone is horrified at whats going on and everyones hearts goes out to them... but the fact is this is a car forum and the car in question is affected... it is a valid topic to discuss and it can be done respectfully without taking away one ounce of compassion for what everyone is watching...

no one is equating the loss of life to a loss of a car...but the truth is this is a huge loss for japan ecomically and this thread is just showing how the tragedy has side effects that reach beyond the images we see on TV



so i would stop jumping in on here condemning every single post for asking or bringing up the subject..

it would be one thing if some one went to the red cross site or something complaining about not getting their car...but what do you expect to be discussed on here?... its true there will be some type of negative fall out from this for customers... buying a car is a big deal and im sure people have questions and concerns and i dont see why their shouldnt be a place where people can talk about it..

Brazilbro 03-12-2011 01:20 AM

perfectly stated :iagree:

Jordo! 03-12-2011 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 982617)
i dont see why you are being so self righteous about this.. i saw your thread in the off topic about

it was closed before i could reply

thats pretty stupid and uncalled for to judge someones moral character based on that ....here is why... i havent read one single post with someone saying who cares about the people i just want my car... everyone is horrified at whats going on and everyones hearts goes out to them... but the fact is this is a car forum and the car in question is affected... it is a valid topic to discuss and it can be done respectfully without taking away one ounce of compassion for what everyone is watching...

no one is equating the loss of life to a loss of a car...but the truth is this is a huge loss for japan ecomically and this thread is just showing how the tragedy has side effects that reach beyond the images we see on TV



so i would stop jumping in on here condemning every single post for asking or bringing up the subject..

it would be one thing if some one went to the red cross site or something complaining about not getting their car...but what do you expect to be discussed on here?... its true there will be some type of negative fall out from this for customers... buying a car is a big deal and im sure people have questions and concerns and i dont see why their shouldnt be a place where people can talk about it..

Sorry for being indelicate, but frankly I'm disgusted that anyone would care more about their car parts or cars than the toll on human life.

And yeah, when that's the issue someone feels the need to post about, it's pretty clear what their number one concern is. Expressing my disgust without singling out anyone is hardly self-righteous, and my attack on their "moral character" is probably spot-on.

Please.

The fact that this is a car forum is utterly irrelevant. Why does that matter?

We're not even talking about the actual loss of their property either -- merely the inconvenince of a delay in receiving them due to a freaking disaster!

I don't blame you for closing my thread -- that's fine -- but I stand by my view and my statements.

If someone who was more concerned about property over life was offended -- GOOD. They are welcome to hate me, but should reflect upon their self-centered concerns. They can repent by donating 10 bucks to the red cross. I can endure the hate and the $10 will help.

ZCarMan 03-12-2011 07:51 AM

The discussion of the impact on delivery of 370Zs from Japan because of the earthquake is relevant to this forum. There are also threads specifically about the disaster on here as well. I'm disappointed to see others be critical of another for a discussion topic related to this subject. If you or anyone else believes for a second that anyone cares more about a car than a person then that is sad. There are many venues to discuss the disaster and its human impact. This forum is for discussion largely about 370Zs. Oh, and by the way before anyone jumps all over me. My Mother's side of the family lives in Mutsu, Japan Ground Zero for the Earthquake/Tsunami.

Jordo! 03-12-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 982813)
The discussion of the impact on delivery of 370Zs from Japan because of the earthquake is relevant to this forum. There are also threads specifically about the disaster on here as well. I'm disappointed to see others be critical of another for a discussion topic related to this subject. If you or anyone else believes for a second that anyone cares more about a car than a person then that is sad. There are many venues to discuss the disaster and its human impact. This forum is for discussion largely about 370Zs. Oh, and by the way before anyone jumps all over me. My Mother's side of the family lives in Mutsu, Japan Ground Zero for the Earthquake/Tsunami.

Let me put it this way. We can broadly differentiate betwen three categories of response to this disaster by folks here:

(1) Nothing. Whatever they are thinking or feeling is unknown.

(2) Took the time and effort to make a post expressing thier hopes and prayers for a bunch of strangers.

(3) Took the time and effort to express their fears about the possiblity of not getting their car or car parts on time as a result of the disaster.

Do I know if down deep the people in any of those categories really cares about the value of human life? No. But I can respond to what I see.

I thanked those who expressed concern and admonished those who didn't.

What would you do if someone attending a funeral made one comment only: That having to show up for the funeral totally ruined their plans for the day?

Would you assume inside they must be grieving or be utterly apalled by their self-centered comments?

Whatever, man.

Like I said if anyone feels compassion for the people of Japan, they can donate to red cross -- actions are more important than words anyway.

I sincerely hope your family is safe and well.

christian370z 03-12-2011 05:19 PM

Yes, but you don't need to make it your personal mission to call them out because it is honestly pointless. Like I said, even if someone makes a comment on whether their car or parts will be affected by the devastation in Japan, that does not mean they are taking the human tragedy lightly either.

Is it too soon to start worrying about parts in the midst of the disaster? Yes, but there are bigger things to worry about than calling people out on forums in my opinion.

Jordo! 03-12-2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 983341)
Yes, but you don't need to make it your personal mission to call them out because it is honestly pointless. Like I said, even if someone makes a comment on whether their car or parts will be affected by the devastation in Japan, that does not mean they are taking the human tragedy lightly either.

Is it too soon to start worrying about parts in the midst of the disaster? Yes, but there are bigger things to worry about than calling people out on forums in my opinion.

Likewise there are bigger things to worry about than calling out people who call out people on a forum.

Touché! :icon17:

wilsonp 03-12-2011 05:56 PM

Why can't we block posters?

dad 03-12-2011 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 982813)
The discussion of the impact on delivery of 370Zs from Japan because of the earthquake is relevant to this forum. There are also threads specifically about the disaster on here as well. I'm disappointed to see others be critical of another for a discussion topic related to this subject. If you or anyone else believes for a second that anyone cares more about a car than a person then that is sad. There are many venues to discuss the disaster and its human impact. This forum is for discussion largely about 370Zs. Oh, and by the way before anyone jumps all over me. My Mother's side of the family lives in Mutsu, Japan Ground Zero for the Earthquake/Tsunami.

I'm disappointed that you agree with some one inquiring about their car. There has been more than one person. Posting a question about, "Will, or when will I get my car"? The earth quake isn't 24 hours old! Those who ask such a question in that short time frame. They have no concern about the loss of life or the suffering! "They are only concerned about their car"!
Yes this is a car forum. "But to ask that question now, is totally inappropriate"! Waiting a few days, a week, and then ask!

eagle55 03-12-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 983390)
I'm disappointed that you agree with some one inquiring about their car. There has been more than one person. Posting a question about, "Will, or when will I get my car"? The earth quake isn't 24 hours old! Those who ask such a question in that short time frame. They have no concern about the loss of life or the suffering! "They are only concerned about their car"!
Yes this is a car forum. "But to ask that question now, is totally inappropriate"! Waiting a few days, a week, and then ask!


+1 :shakes head:

Jordo! 03-12-2011 06:55 PM

Seriously.

Anyone who makes reference to loss of personal property (and not even real loss, mind you) even as an afterthought when something of this magnitude is happening makes that individual sound like a giant, self-absorbed douche.

Now if someone makes it the main topic of discussion (i.e., the thread topic) -- that makes the person sound like a dangerously self-absorbed douche -- as in, this person probably makes a habit of neglecting the needs of others around him on a regular basis.

Sure hope I'm wrong on that. Maybe it was a moment of self-indulgence. Maybe it was totally out of character... maybe.

Or ... maybe it's Generation Y doing their thing :tup:

Dunno. Beats me.

I'll leave the horse's corpse alone now...

ZCarMan 03-12-2011 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 983390)
I'm disappointed that you agree with some one inquiring about their car. There has been more than one person. Posting a question about, "Will, or when will I get my car"? The earth quake isn't 24 hours old! Those who ask such a question in that short time frame. They have no concern about the loss of life or the suffering! "They are only concerned about their car"!
Yes this is a car forum. "But to ask that question now, is totally inappropriate"! Waiting a few days, a week, and then ask!

It was a question posted on a forum that is titled the370z.com!! If you don't agree with it that is fine. Just don't pass judgement on someone else because you have a different opinion about whether they are concerned about the Japanese or the exact amount of hours/days/weeks you believe it is appropriate to wait before YOU believe it is okay to post a question.

If you are disappointed you can start a thread and title it, "I can't believe anyone is interested in their 370Z on a forum with the same name because they obviously don't care about the Japanese who are suffering".

christian370z 03-12-2011 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 983357)
Likewise there are bigger things to worry about than calling out people who call out people on a forum.

Touché! :icon17:

Hahaha, I cannot believe I didn't see that coming. Definitely touché lol.

MC 03-14-2011 08:12 PM

STATEMENT REGARDING STATUS OF JAPANESE EARTHQUAKE AND IMPACT ON NISSAN AMERICAS OPERATIONS


Following the earthquake in Japan on March 11 Nissan Americas has been working around-the-clock with its teams in Japan and abroad to assess the status of its employees and the impact on its operations. The following will serve as an update on Nissan Americas operations and is complementary to an update provided by Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. earlier today:

Employees
All Nissan Americas employees and their families are safe and accounted for, including those on assignment in Japan and those traveling in the country on business. Some Nissan Americas employees who were traveling in country on business have already returned to their home countries while others are in the process of returning.

Facilities/Production
All Nissan Americas manufacturing facilities remain operational and will continue normal production schedules until further notice.
In total six of Nissan’s facilities in Japan have reported some damage to their buildings or equipment, including Iwaki Plant (Iwaki City, Fukushima Prefecture), Tochigi Plant (Kawachi County, Tochigi Prefecture), Yokohama Plant (Yokohama City, Kanagawa Prefecture), Oppama Plant (Yokohama City, Kanagawa Prefecture), Zama Operations Center (Zama City, Kanagawa Prefecture) and Honmoku Wharf (Yokohama City, Kanagawa Prefecture).
Nissan’s Tochigi and Iwaki plants will suspend operations until Friday, March 18.
Nissan’s Oppama, Kyushu, Shatai and Yokohama plants will suspend operations until Wednesday, March 16.

Vehicle Stock / Sales Impact
Nearly 70 percent of the vehicles Nissan Americas sells in the region are produced in the region and manufacturing operations are continuing to operate on a normal schedule.
In general Nissan Americas is operating with a sufficient days’ supply of vehicle stock on the ground in the region or already in transit from Japanese ports.
Some U.S.- and Canadian-bound vehicles at the Port of Hitachi, Ibaraki Prefecture and other vehicles stored at the Miyagi Service Center (Tagajo City, Miyagi Prefecture) were damaged due to the earthquake and/or tsunami.
Some Infiniti models and Nissan GTR and 370Z may experience delays in shipment to the U.S. and Canada with full impact still being assessed.
A shipment of more than 600 Nissan LEAFs destined for the U.S. left port in Japan on March 10, just prior to the earthquake, and will arrive as scheduled. Future impact, if any, on Nissan LEAF supply continues to being assessed.


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