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Falcor 09-21-2010 10:07 AM

Financing help
 
Hello every one. I am looking for some advice on how to go about getting financing for a used 370. I have 12,ooo for a down payment and I am looking at borrowing about 16,ooo for the rest. So far I haven't had any luck with my bank or with a couple of online lenders, they seem to think I don't have enough credit history. I was aware of this possibility in the past but I thought that with such a large down-payment I thought that this wouldn't be an issue.

Well I guess I'm not really sure where to go from here, I could easily afford payments up to $800 a month if I had to, and I am in a good position to pay off the entire loan in a year if I had to.

Anyway if anyone has any recommendations on what I might be able to do to secure a loan or lenders that they have had good experience with, please let me know. It is so frustrating being able to afford my dream car but not having a bank to trust me enough to let me buy one.

FuszNissan 09-21-2010 11:21 AM

I would contact the dealership where the Used 370 is; they might have a primary lender that can help you. If it's a private party, I would try a Credit Union. You probably will have to activate an account with them. Lastly, you can try and find a co-signer. But don't expect a great rate, co-signers are only to SECURE a loan.

Trips 09-21-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 730207)
I would contact the dealership where the Used 370 is; they might have a primary lender that can help you. If it's a private party, I would try a Credit Union. You probably will have to activate an account with them. Lastly, you can try and find a co-signer. But don't expect a great rate, co-signers are only to SECURE a loan.

:iagree:

Falcor 09-21-2010 12:06 PM

the car is from a private seller, I have no access to a co-signer. do you have any recommendations for credit unions? In my experience credit unions are even harder on those without perfect credit.

I find this whole thing asinine, I want to get a $16,000 loan for a $28,000 car, I make about $2,600 a month net with only $400 a month debt. Where is the risk? even if I default on the loan right away wont the lender have a car worth $28,000 that they paid $16,000 for?

I dont get it.

daimon1313 09-21-2010 12:14 PM

Try PenFed (here's how to use them http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-p...r-my-370z.html) they're a great option.

Falcor 09-21-2010 12:18 PM

Already tried, they came back with a super quick NO!

Cmike2780 09-21-2010 12:22 PM

The whole credit system if fkd up IMO. You can't get credit without already having credit. A friend of mine makes about 75k a year, no debt and never had a credit card. When she finally decided to get one, pretty much all the banks denied her for not having a credit history. The sad thing is, a few years ago she was bombarded with offers.

I think the credit union would be your best bet. Find a family member who already belongs to one to make it a little easier. Good luck.

daimon1313 09-21-2010 12:35 PM

What's funny about the whole thing is having bad credit is better than no credit at all.

Falcor 09-21-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by daimon1313 (Post 730370)
What's funny about the whole thing is having bad credit is better than no credit at all.

Word.

daimon1313 09-21-2010 01:08 PM

Falcor...here's what I would suggest.

I know this from experience. You're going to have a very, very hard time getting financing for a private sale like this, even with 12K to put down. Have you thought about taking that 12K, finding a similar used Z at a dealership and financing through them? They have primary lenders who will be able to get you a loan, although you're likely facing horrible interest rates.

I had to do this with my first car. I had 10K to put down, financed the rest. The interest rate was incredibly outlandish, but I was able to get the car, make payments and build my credit.

Falcor 09-21-2010 01:11 PM

I've considered that but, to get a comparable car I would have to pay around 31,000 in stead on 28,000. If this becomes my only option, I may just have to wait until I can build some better credit history with credit cards.

ClemsonWill 09-21-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by daimon1313 (Post 730436)
Falcor...here's what I would suggest.

I know this from experience. You're going to have a very, very hard time getting financing for a private sale like this, even with 12K to put down. Have you thought about taking that 12K, finding a similar used Z at a dealership and financing through them? They have primary lenders who will be able to get you a loan, although you're likely facing horrible interest rates.

I had to do this with my first car. I had 10K to put down, financed the rest. The interest rate was incredibly outlandish, but I was able to get the car, make payments and build my credit.


I agree. Without a co-signer this is your best bet. I strongly suggest you get a small credit card. Put gas on it and just pay it off each month.

Good luck with everything!

danny@FontanaNissan 09-21-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ClemsonWill (Post 730446)
I agree. Without a co-signer this is your best bet. I strongly suggest you get a small credit card. Put gas on it and just pay it off each month.

Good luck with everything!

:iagree:

Falcor 09-22-2010 07:28 AM

Thanks for all the suggestions and advice. I think I will have to do what y'all are suggesting and just start working on my credit. I'll also keep saving, who knows maybe they will be more willing to loan me 5k-10k? anyway thanks again for all your help.

Jeffblue 09-22-2010 07:56 AM

this need to build credit thing is such BS. its a byproduct of a society which encourages borrowing and getting into debt. They make it seem like there is something irresponsible about paying cash for anything. but anyways, yea a credit card will help you build credit. just make sure the balance is paid in full every month.

m4a1mustang 09-22-2010 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 730343)
The whole credit system if fkd up IMO. You can't get credit without already having credit. A friend of mine makes about 75k a year, no debt and never had a credit card. When she finally decided to get one, pretty much all the banks denied her for not having a credit history. The sad thing is, a few years ago she was bombarded with offers.

I think the credit union would be your best bet. Find a family member who already belongs to one to make it a little easier. Good luck.

Well, you establish credit by getting a credit card or paying a phone bill, cable bill, rent, whatever. Everyone should have a credit card at 18. Just be responsible with it. :tup:

Jeffblue 09-22-2010 08:20 AM

what are you supposd to do if you have a prepaid cell phone, steal your neighbors cable and internet, and live in abandoned buildings?

m4a1mustang 09-22-2010 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 731450)
what are you supposd to do if you have a prepaid cell phone, steal your neighbors cable and internet, and live in abandoned buildings?

Party.

Jeffblue 09-22-2010 08:26 AM

i wouldn't let myself get a credit card until after college. I payed for everything on debit card. until recently.

shoopajae10 09-22-2010 10:38 AM

i know that with bofa, if you want a loan, they require that you have at least 5 years of established credit.

when i was about 22, with about 4 years of established credit, and my debt to income somewhere around 13% including rent, my loan was declined through bofa because of insufficient credit history.

I've had 1 car note for 3 years and 3 revolving credit cards for 4 years.

whoever the underwriters are for bofa are veryyyyyy veryyy to the books.

Falcor 09-22-2010 11:31 AM

off topic: how do I give rep points?

shoopajae10 09-22-2010 11:42 AM

underneath where it displays the rep power click on the image in the middle.

IB 350Z 09-22-2010 02:28 PM

Falcor- The best answer, which guys are pretty much telling you, is too wait. Otherwise you could get crazy in debt. No car is worth it. If you ruin your credit now, it will only be uphill from there. Just my opinion. Pay the car you got now off, or at least, get out from being upside down. Besides, 2011' are coming up soon (maybe).

Falcor 09-22-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by IB 350Z (Post 732121)
Falcor- The best answer, which guys are pretty much telling you, is too wait. Otherwise you could get crazy in debt. No car is worth it. If you ruin your credit now, it will only be uphill from there. Just my opinion. Pay the car you got now off, or at least, get out from being upside down. Besides, 2011' are coming up soon (maybe).

I have no car currently (except a work vehicle) and I have no significant debt to speak of. I do have 12000 to put as a down payment though and I make more than enough to afford even a high monthly payment and insurance. Thats what makes this so frustrating.

shoopajae10 09-22-2010 02:58 PM

why dont you use that money and just buy off a used 350z or something for about 12k. youll have a great car, (although not your dream car) but itll get you to work and youll have no car payments. you can save up some more and start building your credit over the next few years and then finally purchase and get financing for your true dream car.

IB 350Z 09-22-2010 03:14 PM

I had an $800 monthly payment on a 350Z for 3 years. After the initial new car euphoria, I still had an $800 monthly payment. Year 3 of payments that high....sucked. But to each his own. It's your money so do your thing. Just telling you my experience.

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Originally Posted by Falcor (Post 732140)
I have no car currently (except a work vehicle) and I have no significant debt to speak of. I do have 12000 to put as a down payment though and I make more than enough to afford even a high monthly payment and insurance. Thats what makes this so frustrating.


FuszNissan 09-22-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 731450)
what are you supposd to do if you have a prepaid cell phone, steal your neighbors cable and internet, and live in abandoned buildings?

:roflpuke2: :roflpuke2:

Falcor 09-22-2010 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoopajae10 (Post 732210)
why dont you use that money and just buy off a used 350z or something for about 12k. youll have a great car, (although not your dream car) but itll get you to work and youll have no car payments. you can save up some more and start building your credit over the next few years and then finally purchase and get financing for your true dream car.

i would if i "needed" a car, but I dont. I "want" a 370. And I would consider buying one just for the credit building but due to taxes and depreciation it would be like throwing money away.

Falcor 09-22-2010 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IB 350Z (Post 732254)
I had an $800 monthly payment on a 350Z for 3 years. After the initial new car euphoria, I still had an $800 monthly payment. Year 3 of payments that high....sucked. But to each his own. It's your money so do your thing. Just telling you my experience.

Yeah I understand what your saying, but I plan on paying the car off in 1 year.

wilsonp 09-22-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoopajae10 (Post 731786)
underneath where it displays the rep power click on the image in the middle.

Obviously that icon needs replacing!

How about something like:

http://scw.us/image/plusrep.png

wilsonp 09-22-2010 06:07 PM

BTW, I got around credit issues by having a phone bill and apartment rent while I was in college, which helped when I got out. Wasn't one to use a credit card then, wrote more checks, but did have a co-signer available for my first car. (Don't remember if it was needed.)

Depending on your job, if you have an employment related credit union available, they will probably give ok rates if you open an account since they know your employer.

370z2k10 09-22-2010 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsonp (Post 732566)
BTW, I got around credit issues by having a phone bill and apartment rent while I was in college, which helped when I got out. Wasn't one to use a credit card then, wrote more checks, but did have a co-signer available for my first car. (Don't remember if it was needed.)

Depending on your job, if you have an employment related credit union available, they will probably give ok rates if you open an account since they know your employer.


When I bought my first car, this is what I did, at the time I had zero credit and the credit union financed me.

Falcor 09-24-2010 05:04 PM

thanks for all your help guys, looks like I got my z! its used 2010 with 2000 miles on it, I got screwed on the financing. The lender is actually making me pay them to accept my application. But the seller was great and worked with me on the price to make up for the difference. I won't take delivery until next week but when I do il be posting up some pictures.

Falcor 10-04-2010 09:31 PM

Just picked her up, thanks again for all the good advice guys!

heres a pic.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/...23b56b53_b.jpg

Juleous 10-04-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcor (Post 750961)
Just picked her up, thanks again for all the good advice guys!

heres a pic.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/...23b56b53_b.jpg

Nice ride! :tiphat:

ClemsonWill 10-05-2010 07:41 AM

Very nice. Now get rid of those stickers and post of a mod list.

Falcor 10-05-2010 08:15 AM

Thanks, and I intend to take all the Yellow stickers off the car. I'll post more in a different section when I do.

Isozaki 01-21-2011 08:00 PM

I just reg to make this post because I saw some people giving bad credit advise.

I am not saying this is the only way to build credit but this worked for me being 30 years old now I will pass it on.

1. what ever credit cards you get make sure they have auto deduct from your banking account.
2. Get a credit card. does not matter what the % is. They all suck. Put 100$ on the card. have the bank auto payment 25$
6. 6 months later get another card do the same thing and don't go over $100
3. Apply for a 1000$ loan from your bank and pay it off over 12 months anything less then 6 shows jack its after 6 months that do you good.

Keep those 2 cards and a loan going after 12 months pull another and you will get about 30 points a year doing just that. I have 3 credit cards and a loan going at all times and I am rolling a 742. I work offshore and I also want not only a good score but then they look at my history they can see different accounts and all green marks so i have good score and i have the history to back it up. What ever you choose try to keep the cards at 35% or lower and remember you will keep these for your whole life never cancel as the length of the card is super important you lose 20+ points for canceling a card if you have had it for a while.

Note that if you put 50 bux on the card pay it off in full each month does next to jack. Hold a small balance see above and make on time payments. and never use the card for anything remember your emergency fund is the money you have saved in your chk account not credit cards.

I also want to note that CC have high rates regardless now but if you keep it at 100$ its not a problem the same with the loan you will pay like $100 bux in int over 12 months not bad if your trying to build A+ credit.

plato 01-22-2011 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isozaki (Post 906458)
I just reg to make this post because I saw some people giving bad credit advise.

I am not saying this is the only way to build credit but this worked for me being 30 years old now I will pass it on.

1. what ever credit cards you get make sure they have auto deduct from your banking account.
2. Get a credit card. does not matter what the % is. They all suck. Put 100$ on the card. have the bank auto payment 25$
6. 6 months later get another card do the same thing and don't go over $100
3. Apply for a 1000$ loan from your bank and pay it off over 12 months anything less then 6 shows jack its after 6 months that do you good.

Keep those 2 cards and a loan going after 12 months pull another and you will get about 30 points a year doing just that. I have 3 credit cards and a loan going at all times and I am rolling a 742. I work offshore and I also want not only a good score but then they look at my history they can see different accounts and all green marks so i have good score and i have the history to back it up. What ever you choose try to keep the cards at 35% or lower and remember you will keep these for your whole life never cancel as the length of the card is super important you lose 20+ points for canceling a card if you have had it for a while.

Note that if you put 50 bux on the card pay it off in full each month does next to jack. Hold a small balance see above and make on time payments. and never use the card for anything remember your emergency fund is the money you have saved in your chk account not credit cards.

I also want to note that CC have high rates regardless now but if you keep it at 100$ its not a problem the same with the loan you will pay like $100 bux in int over 12 months not bad if your trying to build A+ credit.

:happydance::happydance:

FuszNissan 01-22-2011 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isozaki (Post 906458)
I just reg to make this post because I saw some people giving bad credit advise.

I am not saying this is the only way to build credit but this worked for me being 30 years old now I will pass it on.

1. what ever credit cards you get make sure they have auto deduct from your banking account.
2. Get a credit card. does not matter what the % is. They all suck. Put 100$ on the card. have the bank auto payment 25$
6. 6 months later get another card do the same thing and don't go over $100
3. Apply for a 1000$ loan from your bank and pay it off over 12 months anything less then 6 shows jack its after 6 months that do you good.

Keep those 2 cards and a loan going after 12 months pull another and you will get about 30 points a year doing just that. I have 3 credit cards and a loan going at all times and I am rolling a 742. I work offshore and I also want not only a good score but then they look at my history they can see different accounts and all green marks so i have good score and i have the history to back it up. What ever you choose try to keep the cards at 35% or lower and remember you will keep these for your whole life never cancel as the length of the card is super important you lose 20+ points for canceling a card if you have had it for a while.

Note that if you put 50 bux on the card pay it off in full each month does next to jack. Hold a small balance see above and make on time payments. and never use the card for anything remember your emergency fund is the money you have saved in your chk account not credit cards.

I also want to note that CC have high rates regardless now but if you keep it at 100$ its not a problem the same with the loan you will pay like $100 bux in int over 12 months not bad if your trying to build A+ credit.

You seem to know how the system works. But having 3 credit cards wit 100 balance on them and a 1000 personal loan will not help you get a car loan. That's is too little revolving credit for a bank to consider loaning you 30-40K. Yes you will have a good score, but banks aren't going by score anymore. They look at debt to income, revoliving credit, history, and income. Just my .02.


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