Any Fuel System Cleaner Recommended ??
 

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Recently I've purchased two fuel system cleaners - the Valvoline Max and the Techron concentrate plus. Both used on some days interval.

This is my first FS cleaner use. In the user's manual, it says Nissan does not recommend any additives. But for me wanted something good to restore my lost power and performance.

I felt really my Z runs better just after I put that Valvoline's. Faster response like a new (now hitting 100K miles around) About the Techron no idea yet cuz I just put it hours ago.

Any brand of FS cleaner highly recommended ?? Well.. I tried to ask at the BITOG, but my membership is still pending that I write this post here.

I use Lucas fuel injector cleaner every oil chg. I use it to prevent build up on the valves but that's about it.
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Top tier petrol already got additives inside....no need this...This type of 'cleaner' is for 3 rd World countries like Laos,Vietnam,Africa & some South America where no Premium fuel are sold.

why not just go to sherwin willams and pour some touline in there? :ugh:

good point.

Until my Z had hit 60K miles around, I had put the cheapest gas for lower prices. I even still don't know their brand names and rarely used top tiers but now I use 76 or Arco.

I guess that's why my Z temporarily lost its performance. I just get it back with these cleaners. But as you know, Techrons always go with the Chevrons.

I personally still don't trust gas in the states and all I pump is Chevron.

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Wow !

the brand name 'Lucas' reminds me of George Lucas Star Wars that it says "May the Additives be with You".

Hope you like it :D

All it makes me think of is horrible electrical problems.

Did you hear about the vacuum cleaner Lucas made? It was their only product that didn't suck.

Every once and a while I'll let me tank get pretty low (yeah I know poor fuel pump) and put a few gallons of 100-octane in. I figure this helps clean stuff out. I wouldn't throw snake-oil additives into my car's fuel. Especially with how finicky sensors can be.

That said, the last time I went into Autozone to get parts for my carb they tired to sell me fuel injector cleaner.

The only one that truly works is BG 44K. Good fuel also goes a long way.

I heard that BG44K is used by Nissan Dealerships too. Correct ??

Gasoline is already a hell of a solvent with some nasty shít in it. And I'd hazard a guess that most of the stuff that clogs injectors is the fuel pump and lines that get degraded because of the ethanol in our gas.

Gasoline already contains toluene to up the octane. And you can't buy Toluene in CA anymore

In most dealerships. They choose. My old dealership swapped to Wynn's. I'm pissed about it. Looking for a new place to buy it now. I used it before I was a Tech. It's good stuff. Normally run one can every 15-30,000 miles. In my 1990 300zxtt I could only get 200-250 miles a tank when I got the car. Did a fuel induction service and went to 350-400 miles a tank. It works.

wow mileages up a lot !!

I like 300zxs that they were really kind of super cars in their period. :D

Big pic because it's that good, put in in your gas, intake and oil (only right before an oil change) Works amazing! You will see and fell the results. I personally guarantee it, If you're not happy with the results I'll give you your money back, that's how good this stuff works.

BG 44k is good too but about 3-4x as much.

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Unless you are running really crappy gas you don't need to continuously clean your injectors and other fuel system parts. Run a tankful every 10K miles or so.

Anything that will significantly affect octane will require stronger concentrations then you will get from one of those bottles in a tank of gas.

Seafoam is snake oil. It is not safe for Diesels either.

Completely untrue, The stuff works wonders especially when run through intakes. I've seen/felt night and day differences first hand.
I have yet to see a diesel Z so that seems irrelevant here, but you sir are entitled to your opinion.

It must go different for each driver.

If there's nothing to clean, then of course it is meaningless to put any cleaner.

I didn't try that Seafoam brand, but surely got benefit from using Valvoline Max and Techron CP for restoring lost power & performance.

But please remember that in my case for long time around first 60K miles drive I had been to only the cheapest gas stations on GasBuddy App that my Z must have had something to be cleaned.

Again, it must depend on. If you are healthy, what's your point to see a doctor ??

* No idea about Diesels cuz I never used it.

You, Sir, owe me $14. Cash only, please.

This statement isn't exaggerated at all, is it?? seriously. Your mileage nearly doubled. I'm gonna have to call BS on this one.

Enjoy your Sunday Mr Ron.............:iagree:

-Clifford

Another Claxton Fruit Cake? :)

Seafoam is some pretty good stuff. I use it mostly for my lawnmower and weedeater. It keeps your fuel fresh and i will add a bottle every three months or so to my vehicles. Give it a shot and try it out on your lawn equipment at least if you are skeptical and base your opinions on what you know and not what you hear.

and the same to you, friend.

I guess I have been one of the lucky ones, insomuch as I have never had fuel go "stale" in any of my lawn equipment. (or perhaps I am unlucky insomuch as I have to use said equip. far too often) I do, however, use Sta-bil in all my lawn equipt. fuel cans, so....

Years ago someone tried to sell me on Seafoam. I bought it and used it in 2 of my vehicles, a 99 jeep Cherokee, and a 96 Saturn sl2. both were suffering from what I believe to be poor gas mileage and performance.
Aside from smoking like all hell, and pissing off the neighbors, the seafoam had absolutely ZERO effect on either issue, in either car.
Now, I know the believers will tell me that I did something wrong, or didn't use enough product, blah, blah, blah.
Buy it if you believe, don't buy it if you don't. Simple.
Personally, I feel that good quality fuel, and good quality oil has all the detergents they need, and an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Maintain your vehicle as you should, and the need for all these "snake oil" products go away.

The problem I have with this statement, even though I would agree with it most of the time, is that Its burns me to see that so many companies are making billions of dollars on products that just simply do not work as advertised, because people are "trying it".
The flipside of it all is that there are so many reviews, and they swing 50/50, basically forcing you to do exactly that. A friend of mine that worked at advance auto told me they can't keep these on the shelves, and they go for $50 there......... http://www.amazon.com/Fuel-Doctor-FD.../dp/B0031BRN2I

Well it worked for me on several occasions. I purchased a yamaha FZ1 carby model and used sea foam on it until it cleared it. I blew black smoke and it spitted and sputtered for the first 6 tanks then it was gone. The carbs were cleaned out. My lawnmower was the same way and last but not least it's a fuel stabilizer. Put it in your 5 gallon tank and let it sit for the winter. You can use that fuel in the spring. It's not a miracle cure for all fuel issues but from my experiences it works.

Seafoam made my old beater Volvo run noticeably smoother, but that was a car that was well over 200k miles and the previous owners did not maintain the car all that well. When I used it on newer cars, all I noticed was my wallet was $8 lighter.

According to Bob Is The Oil Guy, Techron is really the best readily available fuel treatment. The rest do very little.

I've used Seafoam and MMO to get old beat to shít bikes to run properly.

I'll stand behind those 2 products. More seafom over MMO

Yes, it is the truth. My own experience. Call BS all you want. I don't care. I have used BG products before this in other
vehicles with good results. Not as good as this though.

By the way, the throttle bodies were really bad. Nasty. I used the BG 3 step kit. Throttle body cleaner, Intake cleaner ran via a spray
nozzle on both intake sides, the last step running the car on their product to clean the fuel injectors. The 44K goes into a full tank of fuel as a finishing cleaner.

I don't eat fruit cake. Seems as if you do. You are what you eat you know. I am more of a Claxton chicken kind of guy.

I'll just leave this right here.

Whether or not seafoam works (I used to use it), I will say that this video is pretty lame and doesn't prove anything other than the point that [Not all of the smoke coming out of the tailpipe while seafoaming is carbon]. I don't think anyone would argue that. Seafoam is also advertised as having other benefits (like cleaning the fuel system) which he doesn't test.

I think what he'd have to do is have a two engines that are brand new and identical, run them both for a while. Seafoam one of them, and then dismantle the engines, scrape out all the carbon deposits and weigh them.

Seafoam truly might not be doing anything, but his video sucks as proof.

A bit touchy, eh? Relax and have some fun. :driving:

I've seen a lot of Claxton Fruit Cakes but only one person who actually ate them.

I run a bottle of Techron through the tank before every oil change. It's good stuff and using it as a PM method rather than waiting until things are gummed up is a good approach. Why pay the dealer hundreds of $$ for them to do a "fuel injector service" when you can keep them clean yourself ? Redline fuel system cleaner is also highly rated. I also add some Marvel Mystery Oil (about 6 oz) every 2-3 tankfuls. It does not serve the same purpose as Techron, it acts as a lubricant/solvent for the fuel pump and sender unit to help counteract the crappy gas we get here in CA, even the top tier brands. I find that after a tank with MMO added, the often cited problem with the gas gauge not showing a full tank when known to be topped off goes away for a while so I have pretty strong evidence of it's efficacy.

I agreed.

Mostly.

I really got benefit from the cleaners, must be far cheaper than a service.

I just tried a bottle of Royal Purple Max Clean from Pep Boys (also at Walmart for cheaper), can't say enough good things. I'm still on the tank that I added it to so I don't know if it will fall off next time I fill up but there was a noticeable difference in my car. I have about 55K miles, bought my car in AZ so I don't know what their gas is like or if the other owner used premium gas and the car always felt somewhat sluggish 1st and 2nd gear even with CAI and FI exhaust added on. With the Max Clean I feel like the car wants to go in the lower gears and it's more responsive in 3-6. Is this what it feels like when you go to higher end fuel injectors? If so that may be my next purchase.

I doubt it would have had such a noticeable difference, especially without finishing the tank of gas. Has anything else changed? Has there been a drop in ambient temps lately?

It's been "cold" in SoCal, so under 70 degrees.