Sorry dude, I love the 370z like everyone else on this forum but right now the Mustang GT does clean up Sports or Nismos. Not really a huge lap time difference between all the Z variants...

I seem to recall a ford product of the mid-engined variety coming with quite the vengeance. But my fact finding below proves AWD > RWD Mid... in this case :icon17:

Lap time @ Nurburgring

• Nissan GT-R Nismo (2015) = 7:08.69
• Ford GT (2004) = 7:48.00
• 350z = 8:30

Lap time @ Top Gear

• Nissan GT-R = 1:17.8
• Ford GT (2004) = 1:21.9
• 370z = 1:27.5

just to think ford released the new GT concept with a TT V6 now........:stirthepot:

De Tomaso Pantera. I used to drool over those at car shows back in the '70-80's. :)

some guy at my work drives one of these in the summer.

Really? Any reliability issues? I hear they are pretty much grenades, much like any exotic from that period.

best sports car I ever had 1972 Pantera...................:iagree:

Loud and in your face...........:iagree:

351 Cleveland - 48 IDA Webers...:tup:

darn I miss that sports car......:confused:

i mean he doesn't daily it nor have I gotten into any real in-depth convo's about it with him. it's just a beautiful car and the whole American muscle engine mid mounted is just sexy.

any time I've seen it he starts it up first try and drives off......now hoe many miles it goes before an issue is beyond me lol

You suxorz! /end jealous outburst :driving:

I had a sales booklet from about 1972 that I would hide in textbooks and read while in detention at HS. Back then, a Pantera was my dream car. (fap, fap)

Looks like one in half decent shape can be had for $30-40K nowadays but a good one is $80K (and up). Still a bit out of my price range. :(

I grew up near the Ford Plant in Milpitas Cali..I bought that 1972 Pantera
from a Ford employee during the gas wars..

best part was the pure rush of the loud exhaust blaring away and the smell
of gasoline fumes filling the interior.........:tup:

Now I really miss that darn car.............:iagree:

Speaking of the gas fumes... Do you old farts remember when gasoline use to smell so good? We use to hang our heads out of the cars when dad put the premium gas in his 67 Chevelle SS. :eek:

Any old car running nice and rich smells awesome!
As does burning race fuel.

Outstanding words today Mr Read T............:iagree:

Also some of these old muscle cars are now priceless........:tup:

Haha, my whole basement and garage smells like an old rich car with no emmisions equipment.

Mhhh....allot of toxicamaniacs r outta their closets this year.

(Toxicamaniacs- ppl who like to get high from fumes. I really dont know the proper word so i kinda transfer the word from Russian language.)