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MightyBobo 10-09-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RatedZ (Post 229116)
The little hedgehog made me smile, but I couldn't help but notice that you're the second person to reply to FricFrac's "informative" post and correct him. :happydance:

It was just THAT off the wall :tiphat:

JoeD 10-09-2009 05:41 PM

I've concluded that the interior of the Vette is only bad to those who have never sat in it.

I will reiterate...in terms of interior quality, feel, and design, it is no better or worse than the 370Z. Neither interior is anything to write home about, but at the same time not bad enough to show up on the radar of complaints.

You want a nice interior? Go buy a Range Rover and quit bitching. It's funny how no one seems to realize that to come close the base Corvette's performance and have a snazzy interior, one would have to move up to a $90K+ Carrera S.

frost 10-09-2009 05:43 PM

2 vette owners in this thread beg to differ.

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 229218)
I've concluded that the interior of the Vette is only bad to those who have never sat in it.


TheWeatherman 10-09-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 229218)
I've concluded that the interior of the Vette is only bad to those who have never sat in it.

I will reiterate...in terms of interior quality, feel, and design, it is no better or worse than the 370Z. Neither interior is anything to write home about, but at the same time not bad enough to show up on the radar of complaints.

You want a nice interior? Go buy a Range Rover and quit bitching. It's funny how no one seems to realize that to come close the base Corvette's performance and have a snazzy interior, one would have to move up to a $90K+ Carrera S.

Range Rover? Yeah! We have 2. They're the best. Everyone should take a lesson from their interiors. We like them so much, we've ordered a 2010 Bali Blue Sport Supercharged. That will give a few people a run for their money. Hmmm, 6,000 lbs. and 0-60 in the mid-5 secs. That should give my Z a run for it's money if I have a so-so launch. My brother's Jeep SRT-8 kills me everytime though. Damn SRT-8's. That Jeep is an absolute beast. The Americans really can do some things right. It's also built well too. Sorry, I know. Off-topic.

JoeD 10-09-2009 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 229226)
Range Rover? Yeah! We have 2. They're the best. Everyone should take a lesson from their interiors. We like them so much, we've ordered a 2010 Bali Blue Sport Supercharged. That will give a few people a run for their money. Hmmm, 6,000 lbs. and 0-60 in the mid-5 secs. That should give my Z a run for it's money if I have a so-so launch. My brother's Jeep SRT-8 kills me everytime though. Damn SRT-8's. That Jeep is an absolute beast. The Americans really can do some things right. It's also built well too. Sorry, I know. Off-topic.

Built well? :icon14: :icon14:

The '08 Range Rover Supercharged I got for my girlfriend has been the most unreliable car we've ever had. But, sure...it is built well in terms of feel. Thank God the lease is almost up.

TheWeatherman 10-09-2009 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 229253)
Built well? :icon14: :icon14:

The '08 Range Rover Supercharged I got for my girlfriend has been the most unreliable car we've ever had. But, sure...it is built well in terms of feel. Thank God the lease is almost up.


Oh man JoeD. Sorry to hear it. We've had really good luck with ours. (Think about all the systems in that car that most don't have. Yeah, like people say, "Just another thing that could go wrong.") We've had a few minor quibbles here and there, (Check engine light which turns out to be nothing but a reflash, and the power tilt wheel that went out, but all-in-all, they've been awesome. Hence, we MUST buy another. Ha ha! We have an '06 Sport SC and '08 Full Size SC. We love them. Like you said, they are pretty cool to drive.

Our friend who posted should just get what he'd likes. You'll run into things you don't like on any car. (My Z has plenty of flaws, but I still love it.) Go with your gut, and you'll usually win.

JonBoy 10-09-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 229149)
And, they actually do have a limp mode also, its just very uncommon for the engine to get to that point. I got into it once or twice but I was running aftermarket forced induction on the racetrack, and the two just don't mix, at least without some serious engineering work. However, at oil temps of about 280ish, it will go into 'reduced engine power' mode.

Stock, you'll never go into limp mode. I've never heard of it happening. Maybe in an hour lapping session in Death Valley or something.

Boosted, anything is possible, but it's really beside the point. The Z does it (quickly and regularly) while stock, on a racetrack, and the Vette doesn't.

What did you have for FI on your Vette? Supercharger or turbo?

370Zsteve 10-09-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 229253)
Built well? :icon14: :icon14:

The '08 Range Rover Supercharged I got for my girlfriend has been the most unreliable car we've ever had. But, sure...it is built well in terms of feel. Thank God the lease is almost up.

The Range Rover and everything ever built by that company, in every iteration and ownership, is the most overrated vehicle on the planet. But somehow they snagged the suburban housewife with a stange marketing dance...the rest is history.

Don't take the RR Sport around a corner at high speed unless you enjoy the taste of weeds. :shakes head:

alan93rsa 10-09-2009 08:57 PM

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It's funny how no one seems to realize that to come close the base Corvette's performance and have a snazzy interior, one would have to move up to a $90K+ Carrera S.
If you look around you can find a CPO C2S for a pretty good price. I saw an '06' C2S loaded, most are, including the PCCB brakes with about 15k miles go for $48k. That's $10k more than a 370 and about the entry level on a low optioned Vette. Should you be the type person that trades cars every 2 years a CPO C2S could well be the cheaper car to own. Provided you shop for a good bargain.

Pharmacist 10-09-2009 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 229218)
I've concluded that the interior of the Vette is only bad to those who have never sat in it.

You don't have to taste crap to recognize it's crap
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I will reiterate...in terms of interior quality, feel, and design, it is no better or worse than the 370Z. Neither interior is anything to write home about, but at the same time not bad enough to show up on the radar of complaints.
Considering a corvette is at least 1.5 times the price of a Z, that really says alot. Also, Z interior and instrument cluster are leagues ahead of the corvette.
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It's funny how no one seems to realize that to come close the base Corvette's performance and have a snazzy interior, one would have to move up to a $90K+ Carrera S.
Carrera S would destroy the base C6. It's actually a competitor for the Z06. The competitor for the base C6 is the base Carrera, and that too would blow away that plastic-bodied archaic boat into the winds.

Steven 10-09-2009 09:13 PM

I would get the Vette anyday over the Z. what kept me away was not wanted to spend that kind of money in this economy right now. If it wasnt for the economic downturn, i would buy the Vette.

I'm not hating on the Z at all, heck i own one. But I sure would have liked the Vette a little more.

Mike 10-09-2009 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 229513)
Considering a corvette is at least 1.5 times the price of a Z, that really says alot. Also, Z interior and instrument cluster are leagues ahead of the corvette. .

His qoute for a 370 touring vs. a C6 was 35000 vs. 39900. That aint 1.5

ZPirate 10-09-2009 09:22 PM

I have an 03 350Z and a 06 C6 (Z51, 3LT) and I have driven Modshack's 370Z. Both my cars are modded. The Vette is very fast and it's more comfortable than my 350Z on the highway, but it's not as much fun to drive. In my opinion the C6 lacks the overall feel of the 350Z and the 370Z. It feels bigger and heavier than it is because of its width and long wheelbase. The steering is also vague compared to the Zs and the shifter notchy. It's not as much of a driver's car as the Zs are.

If you want a nice 06 C6 mine is for sale with only 7,200 miles. It's got bolt ons and a tune as well as a custom leather interior. I purchased the Vette brand new in January of 2007. My next purchase is going to be a 370Z.

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Pharmacist 10-09-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dalparadise (Post 227392)
Understanding the natural leanings of a 370Z discussion group, may I pose this to you?

I have, through a relationship I have with a Chevy dealer, an opportunity to purchase a new 2009 Corvette BASE 6MT model (no frills -- 1LT version, which is comparable to a Sport/Touring level trim Z) for $39,700. MSRP is $49,600, so the savings are substantial.

Given that a Sport/Touring 370Z can be had at invoice for around $35,500 these days, does it really just boil down to personal preference?

I love the Z and had my heart set on it, but as soon as my friend started talking about working that 430hp Vette into my price range, I got very interested. Plus, the Vette gets the same or better gas mileage, better acceleration, cornering and top speed, better warranty (3/36 B2B and 5/100 powertrain). So, some of my admittedly ill-informed quality concerns seem alleviated, too.

Looking for some perspective... What do you think?

Lets see now. A Z with brand new and fresh design, and a certain rarity/uniqueness. A vette that is a dime a dozen on the streets, with the same stale look since the 1980s (oh wait they made the retractable headlights into fixed lights :rolleyes: )

A Z with the latest technology, synchrorev, vvel, powerful yet efficient vq37vhr, etc.... A vette still using 2 valves/cyl, pushrod engine, etc.... (why not add carburettors while at it?)

A Z someone young with youth and vigour may drive. A vette driven mostly by 50 yr old men with a midlife crisis.

A Z with class, something a well educated professional may drive, beautiful curves, euro style looks. Think Porsche 911 carrera. A vette that is the car of choice for rednecks. Think Dale Earnhardt Jr.

Vettes are crap. The only good ones were the stingray/mako shark generation. Besides, you're talking about a base stripped down vette. not a z06 or even the grandsport/z51. Apart from the overbloated engine giving decent straightline acceleration, everything else on that vette is inferior to the z, brakes, suspension, wheels, tires, handling, interior, fit and finish, quality and reliability, etc.....

Pharmacist 10-09-2009 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 229528)
His qoute for a 370 touring vs. a C6 was 35000 vs. 39900. That aint 1.5

If you read what he said, he was getting a really really super special offer due to connections and friends in high places. A new vette will never be that cheap. Heck, that seems to be below invoice I'm guessing.


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