^ You have a point there Frost.. But IMO interior isn't THAAT bad. I mean you get a screen that shows the two flags in color lol! The Z is a better daily for sure though

Not a terrible interior, and nothing to bash on for sure. It was leaps and bounds above my 02 f-bod. I guess I just had to sacrifice speed for creature comforts in the end.
I think I had mentioned that if this wasn't a concern, the vette is a good buy. I understand not everyone cares about that, but did think I would throw it out there in case someone would be in a position to consider it.

The little hedgehog made me smile, but I couldn't help but notice that you're the second person to reply to FricFrac's "informative" post and correct him. :happydance:

And, they actually do have a limp mode also, its just very uncommon for the engine to get to that point. I got into it once or twice but I was running aftermarket forced induction on the racetrack, and the two just don't mix, at least without some serious engineering work. However, at oil temps of about 280ish, it will go into 'reduced engine power' mode.

The interior from 2008 isn't THAT bad.....It's a comfortable (though large) cockpit. Seats are the cheapest leather you can imagine and the wheel is from a Cobalt. All compromises to keep the cost of the rest of the hardware down. It's still a great bang for the buck that can be made to dance nicely. It's a different car than the Z. The customer base is largely anal retentive old guys with few buying the car for it's real overall performance potential, which is a shame really. Many even dial out their camber so their tires don't wear on the way to car shows. It's an image car that has a large and loyal following. That said it just wasn't me.

Interior, not so bad:
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And a pretty good dance partner when you have room to roam:
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My Audi buddys laughed a lot...;)
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It was just THAT off the wall :tiphat:

I've concluded that the interior of the Vette is only bad to those who have never sat in it.

I will reiterate...in terms of interior quality, feel, and design, it is no better or worse than the 370Z. Neither interior is anything to write home about, but at the same time not bad enough to show up on the radar of complaints.

You want a nice interior? Go buy a Range Rover and quit bitching. It's funny how no one seems to realize that to come close the base Corvette's performance and have a snazzy interior, one would have to move up to a $90K+ Carrera S.

2 vette owners in this thread beg to differ.

Range Rover? Yeah! We have 2. They're the best. Everyone should take a lesson from their interiors. We like them so much, we've ordered a 2010 Bali Blue Sport Supercharged. That will give a few people a run for their money. Hmmm, 6,000 lbs. and 0-60 in the mid-5 secs. That should give my Z a run for it's money if I have a so-so launch. My brother's Jeep SRT-8 kills me everytime though. Damn SRT-8's. That Jeep is an absolute beast. The Americans really can do some things right. It's also built well too. Sorry, I know. Off-topic.

Built well? :icon14: :icon14:

The '08 Range Rover Supercharged I got for my girlfriend has been the most unreliable car we've ever had. But, sure...it is built well in terms of feel. Thank God the lease is almost up.

Oh man JoeD. Sorry to hear it. We've had really good luck with ours. (Think about all the systems in that car that most don't have. Yeah, like people say, "Just another thing that could go wrong.") We've had a few minor quibbles here and there, (Check engine light which turns out to be nothing but a reflash, and the power tilt wheel that went out, but all-in-all, they've been awesome. Hence, we MUST buy another. Ha ha! We have an '06 Sport SC and '08 Full Size SC. We love them. Like you said, they are pretty cool to drive.

Our friend who posted should just get what he'd likes. You'll run into things you don't like on any car. (My Z has plenty of flaws, but I still love it.) Go with your gut, and you'll usually win.

Stock, you'll never go into limp mode. I've never heard of it happening. Maybe in an hour lapping session in Death Valley or something.

Boosted, anything is possible, but it's really beside the point. The Z does it (quickly and regularly) while stock, on a racetrack, and the Vette doesn't.

What did you have for FI on your Vette? Supercharger or turbo?

The Range Rover and everything ever built by that company, in every iteration and ownership, is the most overrated vehicle on the planet. But somehow they snagged the suburban housewife with a stange marketing dance...the rest is history.

Don't take the RR Sport around a corner at high speed unless you enjoy the taste of weeds. :shakes head:

If you look around you can find a CPO C2S for a pretty good price. I saw an '06' C2S loaded, most are, including the PCCB brakes with about 15k miles go for $48k. That's $10k more than a 370 and about the entry level on a low optioned Vette. Should you be the type person that trades cars every 2 years a CPO C2S could well be the cheaper car to own. Provided you shop for a good bargain.

You don't have to taste crap to recognize it's crap
Considering a corvette is at least 1.5 times the price of a Z, that really says alot. Also, Z interior and instrument cluster are leagues ahead of the corvette. Carrera S would destroy the base C6. It's actually a competitor for the Z06. The competitor for the base C6 is the base Carrera, and that too would blow away that plastic-bodied archaic boat into the winds.

I would get the Vette anyday over the Z. what kept me away was not wanted to spend that kind of money in this economy right now. If it wasnt for the economic downturn, i would buy the Vette.

I'm not hating on the Z at all, heck i own one. But I sure would have liked the Vette a little more.

His qoute for a 370 touring vs. a C6 was 35000 vs. 39900. That aint 1.5

I have an 03 350Z and a 06 C6 (Z51, 3LT) and I have driven Modshack's 370Z. Both my cars are modded. The Vette is very fast and it's more comfortable than my 350Z on the highway, but it's not as much fun to drive. In my opinion the C6 lacks the overall feel of the 350Z and the 370Z. It feels bigger and heavier than it is because of its width and long wheelbase. The steering is also vague compared to the Zs and the shifter notchy. It's not as much of a driver's car as the Zs are.

If you want a nice 06 C6 mine is for sale with only 7,200 miles. It's got bolt ons and a tune as well as a custom leather interior. I purchased the Vette brand new in January of 2007. My next purchase is going to be a 370Z.

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Lets see now. A Z with brand new and fresh design, and a certain rarity/uniqueness. A vette that is a dime a dozen on the streets, with the same stale look since the 1980s (oh wait they made the retractable headlights into fixed lights :rolleyes: )

A Z with the latest technology, synchrorev, vvel, powerful yet efficient vq37vhr, etc.... A vette still using 2 valves/cyl, pushrod engine, etc.... (why not add carburettors while at it?)

A Z someone young with youth and vigour may drive. A vette driven mostly by 50 yr old men with a midlife crisis.

A Z with class, something a well educated professional may drive, beautiful curves, euro style looks. Think Porsche 911 carrera. A vette that is the car of choice for rednecks. Think Dale Earnhardt Jr.

Vettes are crap. The only good ones were the stingray/mako shark generation. Besides, you're talking about a base stripped down vette. not a z06 or even the grandsport/z51. Apart from the overbloated engine giving decent straightline acceleration, everything else on that vette is inferior to the z, brakes, suspension, wheels, tires, handling, interior, fit and finish, quality and reliability, etc.....

If you read what he said, he was getting a really really super special offer due to connections and friends in high places. A new vette will never be that cheap. Heck, that seems to be below invoice I'm guessing.

Are you not taking into consideration that the added cost of the Corvette buys you a car that unequivocally embarrasses the 370Z in any measure of performance?

Absolutely not. Please do some research...go a track-event or perhaps drive both.

Take a look at official Nurburgring lap-times as one indication. A 2007 LS2 Corvette Z51 lapped The Ring in 7:59, tying the 997 Carrera S down the second. Sources also list a 2009 Carrera S as only being 1-second quicker, but mind you, we're comparing an '07 Z51 to an '09 Carrera S. The '08+ Corvette with an LS3 is significantly faster.

If that's not enough, browse through the 2007 Lighting Lap issue of C&D ( The Lightning Lap, 2007 - Feature - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver ), where the 2007 Corvette beat the 997 Turbo by 2-seconds around VIR (as well as the Audi R8). Again...this is the older, LS2 Corvette, not the current LS3. If you want to talk about the Z06, that went on to beat the GT3 by over 2-seconds in that test, to boot.

Now I won't put it past you to dismiss this as paper-racing or bench-racing...call it what you will, but results are results. I personally have raced a 2008 Corvette Z51 as well as a Z06 around Infineon Raceway and Thunderhill, as well as HPDEs (non-competitive) at Laguna Seca. Yes, there were Porsches on the track at the same time, so I know what these cars can and can't do. Oh, and feel free to toss the comparisons out because the Corvettes exampled have the $1,600 Z51 option, while you noted "base C6." Either way...your argument is moot.

To summarize, strictly in terms of track-performance: '08+ Z51 > 997 Carrera/S/Turbo...C6 Z06 > GT3...ZR1 > any car on non R-compound street-tires.

Please get your information straight. Thanks.

I wouldn't go that far. Range Rover makes the world's premier luxury-SUVs. When it's running properly and the instrument-cluster is not lit up like a Christmas tree...they are fantastic.

Why would you wan't to go "around a corner at high speed" in an SUV? :icon14: :icon14:

LOL. I'm sure he meant 1.14. Hey...his name is Pharmacist, not Mathematician. :)

Never be that cheap? My brother picked up his brand new '08 Corvette with the Z51-package, NPP exhaust, and Comp. Grey wheels for $42,500. That's more than $2,600 in options compared the quoted $39,900 for the stripped version.

Damn...how many strikes is that?

...what the hell are you talking about? I don't like calling people out, but talk about a narrow-minded approach to cars, with the most stereotypical of views.

Obviously you are going for nothing more than a perceived image (an image you conjured up in your head and agree with yourself). Rednecks only drive Corvettes? Well educated professionals only, drive 370's? Hilarious.

Are you seriously even REMOTELY saying that the LSX motors are low-tech piles of junk and since the VQ37 has some new-age stuff its better simply because of that? Better yet, it only has decent straight line acceleration, and cant out handle a Z?

WELCOME....TO THE INTERNET. Many things can be done here, including research. I suggest you do that before posting again.

The moment I scanned his post and saw, "Vettes are crap," I immediately quit reading, quickly realizing he doesn't know a thing about cars.

Pharmacist got prescribed the wrong drugs...

It's getting hot in here!

It's a super saiyan fail.

i had a base 05 C6. and have driven a newer LS3.

i would take a 40K nismo Z over a 40K base C6 anyday, the Z is alot more fun to drive and has better interior

my dad is thinking of trading in that 05 C6 and getting one of the new grand sports for his 63rd Bday... im interested to drive that car if he gets it

Actually I have seen brand new 1LTs on the Corvette Forum advertised by forum dealers for as low as $38,900 in the last year. In today's market Corvettes are selling for below invoice. There are some great deals out there for C6 Corvettes if you want one. Check out the Corvette Forum's C6 Dealer Inventory or Corvette's For Sale Sections and you'll see what I mean.

I agree with you MC. The Z is alot more fun to drive. And I am a Corvette owner.

+1

Brings me back to all those...ZZTopp vs Pretty much everyone ,times.. ;)



Yup its a IBTL type deal no noubt...

These types of threads always turn into:
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I'm going by MSRP, genius. Canadian msrp at that. Over here, the stripped out base vette is 68 k. Base Z (what you call touring in your country) is 40 k, and with sport package is around 44 k, so 44X1.5 = 66. Understood? Or should I draw a diagram :rolleyes:

Interesting. Never anticipated vettes being that cheap. That definitely has to be at invoice or even less. ok, you get me on that one. Now why are they being discounted so much? Are they heavily subsidized by GM? Or is it that no one wants to buy them? If anything, being discounted so much is actually a negative for a sports car. You won't see such deals on a 911 or an m3.

hahaha, very funny, NOT! So everyone who knows about cars must love corvettes, and anyone who doesn't like corvettes doesn't know a thing about cars. What an open minded, intelligent, logical arguement :rolleyes:

Sorry, I missed all those european noblety, ex-formula 1 drivers, indian maharajas, business executives, etc.... driving corvetes.

Face it, the vette is a blue collar car coveted mostly by nascar lovers, dale jr wannabes, rednecks, etc... who like to pretend they are driving a red white and blue all american supercar rivaling porshe, ferrari, etc...

Of course, the thought of that is too hard to comprehend for many americans. You saying a pushrod, camshaft in the block, 2 valves per head is actually a technological marvel :roflpuke2: :bowrofl: They've been designing engines like that since the 1960s and probably before. They're so powerful only because they're so big, but efficiency wise, pound for pound, LS engines are subpar compared to other engines from nissan, audi, bmw, porsche, ferrari, etc......

If one of those companies made a 6.2L engine, it would probably make 500-600 hp, not just 438. Here RoadandTrack.com -- Cover Story - The Fast & The Frugal: Chevrolet Corvette Z51 (8/2008)

All the handling stats are either same as or slightly less than z sport package. Now its your turn to take your own advice and go search the net before posting :rolleyes:

How so? Drop an overbloated v8 into a z34 platform and you'll get a car everybit as good as the vette. Except for engine power, the Z is every bit a match for the Vette, if not even better. Braking, cornering, lateral grip, handling, transmission, suspension, wheels, tires, interior, quality, reliability, image, looks, etc.....

Actually even engine wise, the z is far superior to that piece of junk vette. The Z makes 89.7 hp/L of displacement to the vette's 70.6. Also, Z makes 73 lb ft of torque/L of displacement to the vette's 69. Pound for pound, the z is the superior car.

The Z is state of the art. And the vette was awesome around the same time dinosaurs roamed the earth. Think about it. The Z is sold worldwide. The vette, you'll have a hard time finding any outside america.



Well, the nurburgring is a very long track that has a lot of long very high speed straights, so it's predictable the v8 powered vette would perform well comparable to the carrera (which I always thought should have had way more power than they actually come with). On a tighter twistier track with slower overall speed, the carrera should be able to outhandle the vette.

If that's not enough, browse through the 2007 Lighting Lap issue of C&D ( The Lightning Lap, 2007 - Feature - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver ), where the 2007 Corvette beat the 997 Turbo by 2-seconds around VIR (as well as the Audi R8). Again...this is the older, LS2 Corvette, not the current LS3. If you want to talk about the Z06, that went on to beat the GT3 by over 2-seconds in that test, to boot.

Now I won't put it past you to dismiss this as paper-racing or bench-racing...call it what you will, but results are results. I personally have raced a 2008 Corvette Z51 as well as a Z06 around Infineon Raceway and Thunderhill, as well as HPDEs (non-competitive) at Laguna Seca. Yes, there were Porsches on the track at the same time, so I know what these cars can and can't do. Oh, and feel free to toss the comparisons out because the Corvettes exampled have the $1,600 Z51 option, while you noted "base C6." Either way...your argument is moot.

To summarize, strictly in terms of track-performance: '08+ Z51 > 997 Carrera/S/Turbo...C6 Z06 > GT3...ZR1 > any car on non R-compound street-tires.

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Don't have time to read this article. More on that later. But were all these numbers taken on the same day and time? I noticed it said an 07 audi r8 in the chart, but the article talked about an 08 audi r8. If this is pooled data from different occasions, they are worthless.

Wow.....The car bigotry runs rampant here. Almost sounds live the Corvette forum where you dare not mention you drive (or even like) other brands of cars..

It's also interesting that some with the strongest "opinions" have never owned a late model vette, some have never driven one, and some, I suspect, don't even own a 370.

Carry on children......:shakes head:

And he has a vette now too, his 3rd actually.

I get 28.5 mpg cruising the highway at 78 in the C6, only 25 in the 370.

That's about right. The Corvette has amazing highway mileage. Combined, though, less than the 370Z.

Exactly my point. And why would you need the absurd amount of HP in the Range Rover Sport? :roflpuke2:

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Laughable how this drug-store merchant can piss on Americans and American cars as he does, especially since the only auto industry in Canada is American.

Clearly also talks out his :icon23:

Go back to selling suppositories, stick to what you know.:roflpuke2:

LOL.