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370Zsteve 10-07-2009 07:24 PM

Bose Sound System
 
OK

I recently took a 1+ hr demo in a Touring/Sport 6MT.

Heh, never even turned on the sound, I was having too much fun. Is it any good? The wife has a Bose in her Benz SUV and it sounds awesome.

chief_Roka 10-07-2009 07:45 PM

Honestly bruh... I took 4 test drives in the Z. The 2 least things I liked was the bose stereo
Secondly was that grossly designed left gauge pod. I don't kno why they just didn't leave it anolog.
I opted out of buying a touring package on the strength of the radio. I kno that radio must be at least 25% of the touring price. (App. $900) for that kinda money I can be 2/3 into a serious audiophile system.

I found the bass to be weak and at its highest volume couldn't drown out the engine noise.
Not that I have a problem with the sound of the engine.
I just like the stereo to be louder than my engine. :)

chief_Roka 10-07-2009 07:48 PM

Honestly bruh... I took 4 test drives in the Z. The 2 things I liked least was the bose stereo
Secondly was that grossly designed left gauge pod. I don't kno why they just didn't leave it anolog.
I opted out of ordering a touring package on the strength of the radio. I kno that radio must be at least 25% of the touring price. (App. $900) for that kinda money I can be 2/3 into a serious audiophile system.

I found the bass to be weak and at its highest volume couldn't drown out the engine noise.
Not that I have a problem with the sound of the engine.
I just like the stereo to be louder than my engine. :)

JoeD 10-07-2009 07:49 PM

WTF is "bruh?" :icon14::icon14:

Steven 10-07-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 226030)
WTF is "bruh?" :icon14::icon14:

like bro, brah, bruh, jigga... lol! :happydance:

JoeD 10-07-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven (Post 226053)
like bro, brah, bruh, jigga... lol! :happydance:

Oh...ok. Pardon me for not speaking Guido. :)

molamann 10-07-2009 08:11 PM

Not a big audiophile but I can definitely feel that it's inferior compared to all the cars in my family.

VCuomo 10-07-2009 09:28 PM

The stock stereo system that came in my 1998 Dodge Durango is 1000% better than the Bose...although it does its job, I can't believe that Nissan puts that piece of krap in the 370Z. Hell, the stereo in my daughter's RAV4 sounds better...

spearfish25 10-07-2009 09:35 PM

I think you guys are being overly harsh. Regular radio sounds 'thin' on the Bose stereo but high quality MP3 and CDs sound very good. There is plenty of base as well. Will it replace a huge woofer box in the back? No.

Saying it won't get loud enough to overcome the engine noise is just bogus.

JoeD 10-07-2009 09:41 PM

LOL...if you guys think the Bose is that bad, I don't wanna hear what you think about the Base stereo. :)

370Zsteve 10-07-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 226218)
I think you guys are being overly harsh. Regular radio sounds 'thin' on the Bose stereo but high quality MP3 and CDs sound very good. There is plenty of base as well. Will it replace a huge woofer box in the back? No.

Saying it won't get loud enough to overcome the engine noise is just bogus.

Spearfish, I think yours is the only comment worth agreeing with. Bose reputation is quite high, and as I said, the one in my wife's Benz is awesome. I think another trip to the dealer is in order with a CD or two. What a great way to rustle a second test drive :driving: :icon18:

jpit 10-07-2009 10:32 PM

I had very good Focals and an MTX amp in my S2000 and frankly the Bose sounds just as good. Granted, it does distort some at maximum volume but I never need it that loud and it has no problem drowning out road noise it that's what you want. I have no problem with the base. Bose has always taken a different approach with loudspeakers and has done a great deal research in the area. They never test flat but usually sound pretty good.

onekneedown 10-07-2009 10:55 PM

The Bose system is more than enough to keep me from spending 2-3 times as much on a custom system.... Plus the xm radio is a nice addition for at least a few months.;)

kannibul 10-08-2009 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 226011)
OK

I recently took a 1+ hr demo in a Touring/Sport 6MT.

Heh, never even turned on the sound, I was having too much fun. Is it any good? The wife has a Bose in her Benz SUV and it sounds awesome.

Better than a number of OEM systems; lacks in areas (like when you turn it up, it drops out frequencies to prevent blowing speakers), but can't hold a candle to aftermarket systems in every category imaginable.

bluetooth is cool, I set up my new cell phone with it, and the voice recognition does OK. person on the other end says it echos a bit.


Also, Bose is not awesome. Hooray for marketing...

Trips 10-08-2009 12:24 AM

The Bose Stereo is ok for the Z could it have been better sure, but why do most people buy a Z? it's not the stereo so if your happy as is fine and if not upgrade it's your car. we don't need Testosterone in the thread so discuss it civilized.

JoeD 10-08-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 226351)
Better than a number of OEM systems; lacks in areas (like when you turn it up, it drops out frequencies to prevent blowing speakers), but can't hold a candle to aftermarket systems in every category imaginable.

Agreed.

On the same note, the brakes that come with the Sport package don't hold a candle to the 380mm, 6-piston StopTech kit.

kannibul 10-08-2009 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 226373)
Agreed.

On the same note, the brakes that come with the Sport package don't hold a candle to the 380mm, 6-piston StopTech kit.

Aftermarket > OEM in the majority of cases.

That said, it's also about how much you want to spend. For me, sport package....the wheels mostly. Same with the touring package - I wanted leather seats.

Blown32 10-08-2009 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 226365)
The Bose Stereo is ok for the Z could it have been better sure, but why do most people buy a Z? it's not the stereo so if your happy as is fine and if not upgrade it's your car. we don't need Testosterone in the thread so discuss it civilized.

Testosterone???????..lol!

dweedlebug 10-08-2009 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 226246)
... Bose reputation is quite high ...

"Quite high" based on what??

Bose's marketing department?


Don't be a lemming, read both of the below links. Even Lou Reed has an opinion ...

Bose BLOWS. :stirthepot:

What about Bose? Part 1 : Home Theater Blog | Home Theater News & Reviews
What about Bose? Part 2 : Home Theater Blog | Home Theater News & Reviews

"July 2004 issue of MONEY has an evaluation of speakers by Lou Reed listening to his own (and other) music.

He loved the Klipsch, liked the MartinLogan (except they didn't work at high
volume), thought the B&W over-priced average speakers, dismissed the
Infinity's as "so so" but with little bass, and hated the Bose (no midrange
and he'd pay money NOT to hear them).

I wonder if Bose will sue him and Money."

trent1331 10-08-2009 04:42 PM

I want to ask, who listens to the radio in your beautiful new Z when you should have an Ipod connected blasting MP3'S.. because MP3 volume exceeds the radio by far.
I cant complain.

rudi 10-08-2009 06:48 PM

It is my opinion that hi quality sound systems in cars are a total waste of money. The acoustic qualities in a car is one of the worst environments for sound, particularly in the Z. The two things you will be paying for in a quality system is volume (amp power) and signal to noise ratio. Ok power you can use but signal to noise, forget it. I think the sound system in my Z is more than adequate anything more is overkill. As I said this my opinion only.

ltp 10-08-2009 06:53 PM

The Bose system of the Touring package is quite good if the audio source is not from AM/FM radio.
Otherwise, I am very happy with the Bose system when the audio source is from Itouch/Ipod, hard disk, etc.
It would be much better if the car has less road noise.

SlikNik 10-08-2009 07:02 PM

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:shakes head:

spearfish25 10-08-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rudi (Post 227307)
It is my opinion that hi quality sound systems in cars are a total waste of money. The acoustic qualities in a car is one of the worst environments for sound, particularly in the Z. The two things you will be paying for in a quality system is volume (amp power) and signal to noise ratio. Ok power you can use but signal to noise, forget it. I think the sound system in my Z is more than adequate anything more is overkill. As I said this my opinion only.

:iagree:

The Bose system does the job and nicely. If I want to listen to HiFi music, I'll listen in my living room on my Rotel/B&W system. Frankly, I prefer to drive with my stereo OFF as I'd much prefer the symphony of the engine and exhaust.

molamann 10-08-2009 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 227327)
:iagree:

The Bose system does the job and nicely. If I want to listen to HiFi music, I'll listen in my living room on my Rotel/B&W system. Frankly, I prefer to drive with my stereo OFF as I'd much prefer the symphony of the engine and exhaust.

Well I can't quite keep my pedal to the metal at all times to drown out my girlfriend's nagging. That's when I need my stereo. :shakes head:

DropTopGal 10-08-2009 10:27 PM

The Bose in my Vette is VERY, very good. From what I gather, the Bose in the upcoming 370Z Roadster will be a bit different (improved) than that in the current 370Z. If the 370Z Roadster Bose is on par with the Vette Bose, I will have absolutely no complaints.

Aftermaket systems sure do sound outstanding, but I must admit, perhaps the best factory system I have ever heard is the Mark Levinson in my Lexus (current IS350 and previous SC430).

kannibul 10-08-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trent1331 (Post 227176)
I want to ask, who listens to the radio in your beautiful new Z when you should have an Ipod connected blasting MP3'S.. because MP3 volume exceeds the radio by far.
I cant complain.

I wish it was a bit clearer on the top end, and the bass tighter and more authorative without getting loose/boomy, and the mids tighter and less colored...

Then again, I have audio recording monitors (M-Audio BX-8A's) sitting on my desk at home to compare everything against...lol

For my needs in the Z, the bose system is OK. Like I said, it's better sounding that most OEM systems, but doesn't hold a candle to an aftermarket system.

I might change it out. I probably won't. 6-disc changer and bluetooth...I'd have to check around if there are others that do that (or in addition have a HDD, GPS would be bonus, but not required)...that plus about 2000w of amp for the sub(s), plus another 1K to go around to the rest. CLEAN power > loud distorted.

JakeZ34 10-09-2009 12:28 AM

I agree with spearfish as well because I bought the base+sports package and the stock radio / audio sucks so bad....too weak to hear your music when your crusing with your windows down and just when you crank it up a bit. It sounds horrible. My mom's 08 Altima coupe has Bose and it's awesome and when I had my old 05 350Z touring the Bose was pretty good too. I know Nissan and Bose didn't make them to be like a Mercedes or BMW. But you gotta give them props for trying and sounding better than the stock radio while conserving space in the trunk with the crazy subwoofer idea. Anything is better than the stock imo. And not to mention Bose does have a REALLY high reputation. But those are just my two cents.

Lug 10-09-2009 01:22 PM

Anyone heard the new Bose vs. the 350Z's Bose? I find the 350Z's just barely good enough not to replace and was curious if the 370Z's was better or worse.

chief_Roka 10-12-2009 11:58 PM

Some people like rollin clubs. That's me... in my opinion. Being an audiophile.
And the thread having an audiophile connotation to it.
The BOSE system is inadequate.
Aftermarket speakers in many price ranges are superior.
From infinity to focal u can make a better system in this car.
Agreed that the Z is terrible for acoustics. BUT
There are plenty of high quality components that's can turn the Z's handicap into an attribute.
Certain speaker and dampening materials can actually make your Z bounce around sounds to near flawless quality. 300w rms to the front/50w rms rear is possible and would work perfectly in the Z considering you use advanced crossovers &eq. Your sub you would run 300wrms@4ohms
It will sound good. Most will tell u the rear speaker isn't necessary but it can handle your lows in stereo while your sub pushes your lows in mono. .
Or u can negate the rear speakers if ur really against it or not into using crossovers and add a fosgateibeem tactile transducer. U can also use it as a sub amp and add some bass shake into your Z "bruh".

JoeD 10-13-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 234315)
The BOSE system is inadequate.
Aftermarket speakers in many price ranges are superior.

You are comparing what's available from the after-market to factory parts. It makes absolutely no sense, and frankly...you can substitute "speakers" in your second sentence with anything this still applies. Aftermarket brake-kits in many price ranges are superior. Aftermarket LSDs in many price ranges are superior. Aftermarket cat-backs in many price ranges are superior. Aftermarket intakes in many price ranges are superior.

I have yet to hear about so many complaints on the brakes, LSD, intake, etc. because the parts provided from the factory are inferior to aftermarket ones.

Get your points in check.

Greg 10-13-2009 02:33 AM

Everyones opinion is gonna differ on things like this.. Makes no sense at all to argue about it..:shakes head:



Heck, I think most OEM systems are weak.. Some may agree with me, some wont.. Do I care? No..It's my preference (or in this case my ears ;) ) not anyone elses.

No need to have a flame fest in every other thread...

sw1318 10-13-2009 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 228701)
Anyone heard the new Bose vs. the 350Z's Bose? I find the 350Z's just barely good enough not to replace and was curious if the 370Z's was better or worse.

Yes i came from a 08 350Z with the Bose system and had that upgraded due to lack of base. I can tell you my Bose system in the 370Z feels 10X better than the previous oem system and this time i would not need to waste money for an upgrade.

I have no idea why some here are so against the 370Z’s sound system. Unless you want people outside to hear how loud your bass is or you want the sound so loud that will hurt someone’s ears, there is absolutely no need for an aftermarket setup. Just make sure you turn up the bass and treble and it will sound nice as it is. There is enough bass and clarity in the current system and i would not recommend this as a bad system at all, definitely above average. This is just my personal opinion.

JungleB 10-13-2009 06:12 AM

I'm sure Nissan and Bose could have done a better job with an extra $1k slapped onto the price tag of the Z. I'd rather keep my $1k.

Portlander 10-13-2009 07:43 AM

Joe D, you are one funny "bruh"! Your posts are always entertaining and to the point :)

Lug 10-13-2009 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw1318 (Post 234401)
Yes i came from a 08 350Z with the Bose system and had that upgraded due to lack of base. I can tell you my Bose system in the 370Z feels 10X better than the previous oem system and this time i would not need to waste money for an upgrade.

I have no idea why some here are so against the 370Z’s sound system. Unless you want people outside to hear how loud your bass is or you want the sound so loud that will hurt someone’s ears, there is absolutely no need for an aftermarket setup. Just make sure you turn up the bass and treble and it will sound nice as it is. There is enough bass and clarity in the current system and i would not recommend this as a bad system at all, definitely above average. This is just my personal opinion.

Thanks for the info! :tup: Wife wants the touring and I was pushing for just the base w/spots package. At least I'll get the small consolation that the stereo is a bit better (because I know I'm gonna lose on the "touring costs too much" front). :D

370Zsteve 10-13-2009 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dweedlebug (Post 226577)
"Quite high" based on what??

Bose's marketing department?


Don't be a lemming, read both of the below links. Even Lou Reed has an opinion ...

Bose BLOWS. :stirthepot:

What about Bose? Part 1 : Home Theater Blog | Home Theater News & Reviews
What about Bose? Part 2 : Home Theater Blog | Home Theater News & Reviews

"July 2004 issue of MONEY has an evaluation of speakers by Lou Reed listening to his own (and other) music.

He loved the Klipsch, liked the MartinLogan (except they didn't work at high
volume), thought the B&W over-priced average speakers, dismissed the
Infinity's as "so so" but with little bass, and hated the Bose (no midrange
and he'd pay money NOT to hear them).

I wonder if Bose will sue him and Money."

<sigh> PLEASE do me a favor and don't link a blog from "some guy who used to work in a high-end audio store" and pass it off as something worthwhile. And while I love Lou Reed, the link didn't work and he was robably commenting on the 201's or something.

Next time, link me something like this, written by people who actually know WTF they are talking about.

Stereophile: Bose 901 loudspeaker

The article has very good things to say about the 901 speaks as well as bad things.

Nonetheless, calling me a lemming while you are essentially acting like a "bose sucks it's all marketing" lemming was pretty funny.

I agree with the poster who said that a car, especially one like a Z, is the worst place to expect sound an audiophile would drool over. And Spearfish was dead-on when he said that it won't replace a huge woofer box in the back.

My post wasn't to compare it with a high-end system that's gonna set me back another $2000. Besides, every time I hear one of you Gen-F*ck dickheads driving around listening to horsesh*t like Kanye West at 120 decibels on a high-end system I crack up. :tiphat:</sigh>

chief_Roka 10-13-2009 10:34 AM

[QUOTE=JoeD;234330]You are comparing what's available from the after-market to factory parts. It makes absolutely no sense, and frankly...you can substitute "speakers" in your second sentence with anything this still applies. Aftermarket brake-kits in many price ranges are superior. Aftermarket LSDs in many price ranges are superior. Aftermarket cat-backs in many price ranges are superior. Aftermarket intakes in many price ranges are superior.

I have yet to hear about so many complaints on the brakes, LSD, intake, etc. because the parts provided from the factory are inferior to aftermarket ones.

Get your points in check.

Like I said. FROM AN AUDIOPHILE STANDPOINT. It is not worth the 900 added dollars in the whole touring package. U can order 1100 leather seats n customize the stereo yourself.
FROM AN AUDIOPHILE STANDPOINT. If u don't care then get the BOSE.
Change ur kotex dude. Its starting to smell.

370Zsteve 10-13-2009 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 234573)

Like I said. FROM AN AUDIOPHILE STANDPOINT. It is not worth the 900 added dollars in the whole touring package. U can order 1100 leather seats n customize the stereo yourself.
FROM AN AUDIOPHILE STANDPOINT. If u don't care then get the BOSE.

"Audiophile standpoint" is meaningless in a car that makes more noise than the sound system can drown out. And how do you know the Bose price is $900? Where do you get your "facts"? Every thread you post in seems to have "facts" but no links to the "facts", dude. Like your comment on Japanese Z's being built with different materials than the US model, which is just a huge facepalm.

I'm beginning to think starting this thread was a bad idea :icon14:

bloodo 10-13-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 226011)
OK

I recently took a 1+ hr demo in a Touring/Sport 6MT.

Heh, never even turned on the sound, I was having too much fun. Is it any good? The wife has a Bose in her Benz SUV and it sounds awesome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 234603)
"Audiophile standpoint" is meaningless in a car that makes more noise than the sound system can drown out. And how do you know the Bose price is $900? Where do you get your "facts"? Every thread you post in seems to have "facts" but no links to the "facts", dude. Like your comment on Japanese Z's being built with different materials than the US model, which is just a huge facepalm.

I'm beginning to think starting this thread was a bad idea :icon14:

I didn't read the whole thread, but did you test drive it a second time? From what you said, you never even turned on the sound, then how do you know that a 370z sound system aren't capable of drowning out the car noise?


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