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czirrfb 11-24-2014 09:10 PM

What other cars are on par with the 370z?
 
I was curious, without being bias. Honestly what other vehicles are on par or exceed the performance and cost effectiveness of a 370z?

I am trying to decide what my next car should be coming from a 350z and I cant really find other cars that are....

-Faster
-Better looking
-More fun to drive
-Have as much potential
-Cost the same

As a 370z. I was looking for some suggestions. For example would buying a used infinity G35 and modding it, or getting a civic Si and adding a turbo to it, be a better option than a 370z? I know alot of websites claim the Mustang 5.0 is faster and more cost effective than a 370z, but to me im not really a fan of big, bulky american cars.

Merv 11-24-2014 09:33 PM

For me,when I was looking for a vehicle,it was a toss up between getting a g37 coupe or the 370. I was trying to decide if I wanted to give up the back seat or keep it,then I came across a good deal on a 370. And I couldn't be happier.
To be honest,your not going to find a lot of people on here that aren't going to say to go with the 370z.

Bad Boy 11-24-2014 09:38 PM

I used to be a huge Mustang fanboy. I drove my friends 2010 Mustang for a little bit, and couldnt wait to go back into my 370Z.
Some people might say the new Hyundai Genesis, but the 370Z looks sexier in my opinion.

rooftop 11-24-2014 09:43 PM

Porsche 911 Turbo

Bad Boy 11-24-2014 09:45 PM

The new Porsche's are gorgeous!

jpkirk 11-24-2014 09:45 PM

How about a used Porsche Cayman S. They are comparable in price. Service is a little pricey but, you might be able to do some yourself if you are so inclined.

CarMax Porsche Cayman S

czirrfb 11-24-2014 09:48 PM

I read the Genesis 3.8 is actually faster than the 370z, is that true? But I cant get over that badge.... Hyundai's always seem "cheap" to me.

Jazzster 11-24-2014 09:48 PM

I doubt you will find any that match all of your criteria, especially the subjective ones like better looking. As far as price, are you comparing a new 370 cost or a used cost? For $40K, there are some better cars out there but you;d have to buy used. I will say that a Porsche Boxster S or Cayman S is a better car - a 2009-2011 models are excellent all the way around. Looks, well, maybe not for everyone. A BMW Z4 sdrive 35i or 35is is a gorgeous car and with a tune can make over 400hp (300-333hp stock) and prices for a 2010-2012 are about the same.

I you wanted to build a car up, I'd look at the BRZ or FRS and add forced induction. It's a gorgeous car and gloriously fun. With a bit more power it would be pretty awesome, and cheaper than the others.

And the websites are right - the best bang for your HP dollar is the Mustang GT. The 2015's are simply excellent. But I couldn't own one either.... LOL.

I looked at all of these and traded my 2003 M3 for a 2010 370Z Roadster. I wanted a roadster and after driving the Z4 and Boxster, decided on the Z. It was substantially cheaper and just as much fun although definitely rough around the edges compared to the Boxster. I figured if I got a Boxster I'd have wished I would have held out for a 911. So I went with what I thought was the best bang for my dollar - so far loving my roadster!

czirrfb 11-24-2014 09:53 PM

Would you guys consider a AP2 Honda S2000 in the same leauge as a 370z? The problem is I cant seem to find them with low miles, or they wanna charge WAY too much for them.

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/...psb0b76b92.jpg

mab864 11-24-2014 09:57 PM

0-60 times website has the genesis coupe @ 5.0 & 370 @ 4.6 0-60. So our Z's are a little quicker.

czirrfb 11-24-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mab864 (Post 3039397)
0-60 times website has the genesis coupe @ 5.0 & 370 @ 4.6 0-60. So our Z's are a little quicker.

Just looked up the S2000 and the 06 model does 0-60 in 5.4 sec, not bad for a 4 banger, I imagine adding a turbo will make the thing crazy fast!

brucelidat 11-24-2014 10:04 PM

s2k's are light and tossable, great at the track unless it's a big long high speed track. Technical and medium tracks, the s2ks are really fast. The problem is they are not as fun for DD since you need to rev that engine pretty high to get any power out of it.

Munts 11-24-2014 10:32 PM

IMO 370's are in a completely different league than the genny coupe.. S2K's are nice, but I hate convertibles

Need_NewName 11-24-2014 10:40 PM

335i

Redglare 11-24-2014 10:47 PM

To get anywhere close to that 0-60 for the s2000 you would have to do a clutch dump, even then, after getting perfect shifts you would be lucky to get into sub 6 range. I owned an ap2 for 3 years, it was an excellent autocross car but straight line wasn't its niche.

If you are buying use it opens a ton of possibilities, but then again if you are buying used you can also buy a used 370 and put the rest into mods.

The 370 is a well balanced car that is a tool of all trades.

brucelidat 11-24-2014 11:20 PM

s2k is definitely not a drag car, but great track car. We would have a hard time keeping up in twisties with one, though we would blow it away on straights. You can SC them for muuuch less than boosting a Z also which would make them pretty sweet. I also am not a fan of verts.

90 ST 11-24-2014 11:48 PM

Other then the Camaro, as i'm normally a GM guy, the only other car I seriously was considering was a 135 BMW...The FRS/BRZ with some FI would be interesting, but I found the interior very cheap(at least not having a cover over the console) bothered me.

DavidZ370 11-25-2014 01:32 AM

235 :leghump: I Envy Mike so much

victort 11-25-2014 02:11 AM

i think the new 5.0 is better in every way

DavidZ370 11-25-2014 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by victort (Post 3039482)
i think the new 5.0 is better in every way

:icon18: keep thinking that way, the 5.0 is bad ***, but doesn't look anywhere as nice as our Zs, nor does it handle in anyway better. With that being said its still a good car if you like holding the steering wheel straight and punching it :rofl2:

brucelidat 11-25-2014 02:42 AM

the 5.0 is supposed to handle really well. It's pretty big though, so it might not feel like it's handling as well as it is.

shika805 11-25-2014 02:53 AM

135i or 335i (m-sport, just for the better looks)

i just say that because my buddy has a fully loaded chipped 09 335i (m-sport) and that thing is pretty fun... but he did drop 45k for a used one that had 35k miles on it. You can think of it as this, the extra 10 grand you save from buy a Z can be put toward boosting it. You would then have definitely put your Z in a whole new league than the BMW for the same price. Just a thought.

Element600ee 11-25-2014 03:36 AM

as far as the 370 vs the ap2 s2k id go with the z all day i owned an 07 ap2 with a bunch of nice high end mods sus , engine , hard top , wheels and tires . even with the bigger 2.2 the ap2 still lacks low end performance . i say as far as a daily no way would i daily an s2k again . also as far as fun factor the s2k is not a sliding car they do handle very well but there no where near as fun to whip around as the z if you slide an s2k around it will bite you sooner or later . its funny before i even knew the cayman s was compared to the z as far as in the same class . the first thing i said when i drove the 370 was that the way it handles ( point and shoot and a very easy to correct and control when sliding ) was that it reminded me of the cayman . i though very hard and i drove a lot of cars before i bought the z and as far as price , quality , fun factor , cost to own i couldnt find anything else i liked as much .if i had to pick one thing about the z i didnt like was that its not a targa top . i know the new fords are supposed to basically beat the z in everything but i could never own a mustang . if i were seeking a car a faster and better handling albeit in a higher price range the c7 z51 package is a bad *** car and dollar for dollar there is nothing 2 times the price that will hang . none of the other cars in the class were worth the money in my opinion . s2k to loud inside , sus that will beat ur kidneys in on a road trip and a motor that lack normal driving power i always felt like i had to rip on it every time i pulled out on a major road . frs / brz very fun to drive but my civic si would leave it in the dust and the interior was very cheap . cayman s i like the cayman but i wouldnt want to maint bill to own one and there a pita to work on plus we all know that german quality and reliability . i have to say im very happy with my decision to go with the z . i love it , the woman loves it especially when we take trips ( nice and smooth but still handles amazing ) , the son really loves it ( hes 4 ) and every time we get in it all i hear from him is go fast and or make it wag its tail lol . if it wasnt for the z ida prolly spent more and just bought a c6 zo6 and called it a day .

MJB 11-25-2014 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3039483)
:icon18: keep thinking that way, the 5.0 is bad ***, but doesn't look anywhere as nice as our Zs, nor does it handle in anyway better. With that being said its still a good car if you like holding the steering wheel straight and punching it :rofl2:

The new 5.0 comes with independent rear suspension and an actual LSD. I think its a tad light now (3500lbs?)... I'm assuming its going to handle just as well, if not better than our Z's.

The GT's have had great handling for the past several years. We aren't in the 90's anymore.

MJB 11-25-2014 03:43 AM

What about the new STI?

KramChaos 11-25-2014 04:26 AM

Camaro ss 1LE. Drove one a little bit ago and it is a very good car. Its large but handling wise it has a ton of grip, motor doesn't stop pulling, and very strong brakes. Its ready for the track without mods which is a nice bonus. With a few mods, they make boosted 370z power. Its definitely not the best looking car, but it looks pretty good for a muscle car/pony car and is very capable driver.

0101 11-25-2014 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3039358)
-Faster
-Better looking
-More fun to drive
-Have as much potential
-Cost the same

Faster - In a straight line for bragging rights, or on a road course?
On a road cource is all I care about, and for that the Boss302 would be quicker.

Better looking - Not much, but subjective. Maybe a Porsche Cayman, but a Cayman is also kind of wimpy looking.

More fun to drive - Not much. A Cayman would be better probably until it breaks down.

janglez 11-25-2014 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3039390)
I read the Genesis 3.8 is actually faster than the 370z, is that true? But I cant get over that badge.... Hyundai's always seem "cheap" to me.

couldn't disagree more... hyundai is a good, quality car... and you get a ton for your money... my fiancé drives a 2013 elantra and my dd is a 2014 santé fe sport... the genesis coupe is a sweet looking car with decent power... the z won for me because i wanted a 2-seater... and, i love the history of the car

BC416 11-25-2014 09:46 AM

I crossed shopped 335i's and 2011+ 5.0s. I quickly passed on the BMW as the examples in my price range weren't nearly as nice as the Z. Love the Mustang's performance but I'm not one to drive a car I see 40 of in a 20 minute drive to work (you can also apply this to the BMW).

As others have mentioned, S2k, Z4, Cayman, and FRS/BRZ are popular competitors as well

I feel the Z is the best all-around choice for what I was looking for. YMMV

mishuko 11-25-2014 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3039738)
I crossed shopped 335i's and 2011+ 5.0s. I quickly passed on the BMW as the examples in my price range weren't nearly as nice as the Z. Love the Mustang's performance but I'm not one to drive a car I see 40 of in a 20 minute drive to work (you can also apply this to the BMW).

As others have mentioned, S2k, Z4, Cayman, and FRS/BRZ are popular competitors as well

I feel the Z is the best all-around choice for what I was looking for. YMMW

i'd pass on any used turbo'd bmw.

As others mention'd the Z is a jack of all, but not really 'stellar' at any one aspect.

I probably would have got a FRS/BRZ had it been , in my definition, a true coupe with 2 seats only. (Edit) would also add in that the FRS/BRZ is probably the closest re-iteration of the S2000 that's in production which was swaying me towards it... but also didn't want to buy a new car to have it lose 20% of what i paid after the first few months :(


Then again... RACE CAR Z! :happydance:

BC416 11-25-2014 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3039758)
i'd pass on any used turbo'd bmw.

As others mention'd the Z is a jack of all, but not really 'stellar' at any one aspect.

I probably would have got a FRS/BRZ had it been , in my definition, a true coupe with 2 seats only.

Then again... RACE CAR Z! :happydance:

I'm glad I did pass on the BMW. My buddy has a modded one, dealing with some coolant leaking issues this past weekend.

I like the jack of all trades title for the Z. Not the fastest in any one area, but is fast enough and looks damn good doing it. :driving:

mishuko 11-25-2014 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3039762)
I'm glad I did pass on the BMW. My buddy has a modded one, dealing with some coolant leaking issues this past weekend.

I like the jack of all trades title for the Z. Not the fastest in any one area, but is fast enough and looks damn good doing it. :driving:

BMW's after 60k or 4 years seem to start melting down... literally. Coolant leaking/evaporating was one of the more 'minor' problems that we had with a 08 335xi.

jpkirk 11-25-2014 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3039495)
The new 5.0 comes with independent rear suspension and an actual LSD. I think its a tad light now (3500lbs?)... I'm assuming its going to handle just as well, if not better than our Z's.

The GT's have had great handling for the past several years. We aren't in the 90's anymore.

Initial reviews would agree. The new GT tested by C&D came in at 3800+ lbs. so much heavier thant the Z and a little lighter thant the Camaro SS. Skidpad numbers were smoked by the Camaro with the 1LE at 1.01g with the Mustang at 0.95. 0 to 60 were both at 4.5 seconds so quicker, with quarter miles at 12.9 (Camaro), 13.0 (Mustang)

C&D picked the Mustang with the GT Performance Package over the Camaro with the 1LE. The 1LE package is tight and bumpy, great on a track, back breaking on the road. Since Ford is going after the Europe market with this rendition of the Mustang, they wanted a more refined ride and they got it with some loss in roadholding. They still thought it was better bang for the buck.

The Z beats the Mustang on roadholding but loses on straight line speed. The Z is better looking in my book. With the sports package you get that syncro rev match and that is a big plus for me, the one who needs remedial training in how to heel and toe.

my two bits ... ok eight bits.

DavidZ370 11-25-2014 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3039496)
What about the new STI?

sister leased a mustang before, I think I know how they handle.. :eek: its not very good lol. it was however not the independent suspension was a 2012

DavidZ370 11-25-2014 11:29 AM

Don't see how one can compare the handeling lol, its a night and day difference.

czirrfb 11-25-2014 11:33 AM

Would a used S2000 with a supercharger added be....

-Cheaper than a used 370z (non-nismo)(s2000 plus SC plus tune etc.)
-Faster than a used 370z (non-nismo)
-More fun to drive than a used 370z (non-nismo)
-As reliable as a used 370z (non-nismo)

brucelidat 11-25-2014 12:04 PM

- not sure
- yes
- yes
- not sure

Red__Zed 11-25-2014 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3039841)
sister leased a mustang before, I think I know how they handle.. :eek: its not very good lol. it was however not the independent suspension was a 2012

The 370z handles like crap, I know because I drove a 280z on three tires.

rooftop 11-25-2014 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 3039905)
The 370z handles like crap, I know because I drove a 280z on three tires.

:confused:

Whytlytnin 11-25-2014 12:37 PM

I'm not too fond of American cars myself, but the only cars i'd consider trading my 370z for (that are in a comparable price range)...would be the Mustang GT 5.0, the Camaro SS, and possibly the new STI. There is really nothing else in the 370z's price range thats gonna satisfy you more than the Z....unless you go used with higher mileage and/or earlier model year.


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