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Munts 10-14-2014 10:57 PM

Which would you rather?
 
I've posted on this forum before, and I am planning on purchasing a new car in the spring, but I am still debating on what that will be.

Interested to see what everyone's opinion would be on this topic.

If you live in a cold/snowy climate such as myself in Minnesota, would you rather drive a 370z during the summer and get a winter beater? or would you rather get an AWD/FWD car and call it a day?

I am thinking that if I do get the 370, I will want to find a relatively cheap winter beater, but something not so cheap that will cost me lots in repairs.

If I didn't get the 370, I am looking at Audi S5's. They are an AWD coupe that would be perfect for snow. I figure that between the repairs/cost of the Audi it would almost equal out for the cost of a low mileage Z and a winter beater.

Gahh.. such a hard decision. My gut keeps leaning towards the 370. Stupid Minnesota and it's winter :(. I should move! I just enjoy other aspects of the north too much to move hehe.

Anyway, any thoughts/opinions would be appreciated.

Such a tough choice

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Gadgetech 10-14-2014 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Munts (Post 3000383)
If you live in a cold/snowy climate such as myself in Minnesota, would you rather drive a 370z during the summer and get a winter beater?

I am thinking that if I do get the 370, I will want to find a relatively cheap winter beater, but something not so cheap that will cost me lots in repairs.


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madwi 10-14-2014 11:27 PM

I live in Michigan and use my truck for anytime I don't want to/can't drive the Z.
Best of both worlds to me. I have not had too much trouble finding a winter vehicle that did not require repairs beyond small issues.

watson853 10-14-2014 11:40 PM

I mean the Z is great but at least in the Audi you can hoon year round.


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Limeybastard 10-15-2014 12:58 AM

STi.

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JC-Nismo 10-15-2014 01:44 AM

It's funny because I was choosing between the same two cars. I have an SRT8 and and a Smartcar, gas guzzler and gas saver, but I wanted something in between that's was nice, pretty quick and wouldn't kill me at the pump. The S5 is a gorgeous car, but the maintenance is killer especially with the carbon build up so I chose the Nismo instead and couldn't be happier.

Gadgetech 10-15-2014 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3000483)
The S5 is a gorgeous car, but the maintenance is killer especially with the carbon build up so I chose the Nismo instead and couldn't be happier.

Carbon build up...is that a turbo issue?

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Duc_Z09 10-15-2014 05:48 AM

Z and beater or STI year-round.

Shawa 10-15-2014 05:54 AM

Z. Cause on those spring and summer nights you're going to be happy as fack

DjSquall 10-15-2014 06:06 AM

Go for the Z. It actually handles erry well in snow if you slap some blizzak LM-60's on her.

mab864 10-15-2014 07:28 AM

I'd get an AWD car if I lived in a snowy climate. I don't even drive my Z when it's near freezing. I drive my 4WD Toyota PU and I live in the PNW.

6MT-Z34 10-15-2014 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Limeybastard (Post 3000471)
STi.

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:iagree:

JARblue 10-15-2014 07:45 AM

I would move :twocents:


;)


Get the Z :driving:

watson853 10-15-2014 07:47 AM

If you go STI I'd wait for the mid-cycle refresh since there is a lot of speculation going on that this is when Subaru will give us STI version of the fa20 engine.


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6MT-Z34 10-15-2014 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by watson853 (Post 3000648)
If you go STI I'd wait for the mid-cycle refresh since there is a lot of speculation going on that this is when Subaru will give us STI version of the fa20 engine.


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I hope they bring the 5 door back in a few years when I'm done paying my z so I can keep the z for the weekend and the still for everything else lol

watson853 10-15-2014 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 6MT-Z34 (Post 3000681)
I hope they bring the 5 door back in a few years when I'm done paying my z so I can keep the z for the weekend and the still for everything else lol


Me two I loved my 2012 plasma blue 5dr wrx. I haven't seen anything besides there Levorg concept as far as the 5dr coming back is concerned tho.


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Munts 10-15-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Limeybastard (Post 3000471)
STi.

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This may sound weird but I am a total sucker for interior's.. and the STi's interior is just so... blaugh

The touring model of the 370 has all of the interior comforts that I love, so does the Audi S5. I personally could never see myself in a STi or EVO just because of the bare/boring interior. I know that many people get that car for the raw performance, but I would prefer a 370 or S5 because you get a mix of luxury and performance.

6MT-Z34 10-15-2014 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Munts (Post 3000715)
This may sound weird but I am a total sucker for interior's.. and the STi's interior is just so... blaugh

The touring model of the 370 has all of the interior comforts that I love, so does the Audi S5. I personally could never see myself in a STi or EVO just because of the bare/boring interior. I know that many people get that car for the raw performance, but I would prefer a 370 or S5 because you get a mix of luxury and performance.

The interior of the precious wrx/still was cheap...now it looks like they refined it a bit...I saw it at the auto show this year and thought it was a lot better than previous years, however I do want the hatchback option back

watson853 10-15-2014 08:58 AM

The new interiors were a step in the right direction but if squeaky cabins bother you I'd still stay far away lol.


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Munts 10-15-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 6MT-Z34 (Post 3000719)
The interior of the precious wrx/still was cheap...now it looks like they refined it a bit...I saw it at the auto show this year and thought it was a lot better than previous years, however I do want the hatchback option back

Yes I am sure that the newer ones have nicer interiors... but the newer ones i'm guessing will definitely be out of my price range

watson853 10-15-2014 09:31 AM

Which would you rather?
 
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Originally Posted by Munts (Post 3000749)
Yes I am sure that the newer ones have nicer interiors... but the newer ones i'm guessing will definitely be out of my price range


So I'm guessing the S5 and Z you were looking at are used? Go with the Z I wouldn't buy a used Audi.


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6MT-Z34 10-15-2014 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by watson853 (Post 3000782)
So I'm guessing the S5 and Z you were looking at are used? Go with the Z I wouldn't buy a used Audi.


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Agreed...used German cars can get really expensive...especially if they were leased and return

ZeeBabar 10-15-2014 09:36 AM

I realized that we just ask these questions to find some support for what our heart really wants. Go with your heart, buy what appeals to you and then do what is necessary. I have a 2013 370Z as a DD. Rather than buy a beater, Blizzaks for the winter and if there are those bad snowy days (no more than perhaps 5-15 where I live), take a taxi or have my spouse drop me off at work in her Prius.

Mt Tam I am 10-15-2014 09:40 AM

I like the keep Z option.
The other car will be an AWD one. My buddy has a Subaru that we take off road for hunting and it is good in the snow for skiing trips as well.

Good luck.

watson853 10-15-2014 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 6MT-Z34 (Post 3000790)
Agreed...used German cars can get really expensive...especially if they were leased and return


Exactly and it's an S model so chances are it was driven hard. I'm sure the Z was driven hard as well but we got plenty of DD Z's on here pushing high mileage and still going strong with little to no issues.


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watson853 10-15-2014 09:50 AM

I'd stay away from used subarus as well it's so hard to find one un molested


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nghivinhton 10-15-2014 11:52 AM

my friend lost control on his Z last winter and it was totalled. He was a careful driver but somehow managed to let this happen to his baby.

Also last winter, my friend drove me on his A6 (well not S5 but they're both AWD from Audi) and we drove thru 15 miles on ice, get on the bridges and so on with no problems. We kept seeing cars that went off the ditch or spun around the roads on the way to our destination.

I myself was having this debate before too, and decided to go with a Z (just a month ago). No personal experience in the snow/ice yet but i dont think i would wanna take my baby out very often in bad weather.

kenchan 10-15-2014 11:54 AM

I has 2 RWD cars I hibernate in the winter. Get the 370Z and a beater or two

DOOMMONKEY777 10-15-2014 12:38 PM

R34.....wait wut? Its not 25year old car yet? Weeeaaaak!!!!

Well audi is an expensive luxury i hate that, so i say Z, i drove it in snow multiple winters np.

janglez 10-15-2014 01:12 PM

get the z... don't know if this is an option for you but i bought my z and leased an awd suv for daily/winter driving... leasing kept it affordable and i don't have to worry too much about miles due to having 2 vehicles to drive... or repairs due to both of them being under warranty :D

mishuko 10-15-2014 01:17 PM

never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever buy a used german car.

hopefully that made the point. but just to reiterate... never , ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever buy a used german car.

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3000977)
I has 2 RWD cars I hibernate in the winter. Get the 370Z and a beater or two

i'm dying here... stop it!

Munts 10-15-2014 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3001107)
never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever buy a used german car.

hopefully that made the point. but just to reiterate... never , ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever buy a used german car.



i'm dying here... stop it!


:rofl2::rofl2:

This made me laugh. Yes whatever I buy will be used. My buddy has a used BMW and he has told me some horror stories.. definitely is making me want to lean towards the Z!!

kenchan 10-15-2014 02:43 PM

Apprently mishuko likes taylor swift...:icon17:

DOOMMONKEY777 10-15-2014 02:44 PM

American over german any day imho.

kenchan 10-15-2014 02:45 PM

Yah considering how my wera broke vs snapon never breaking..

Munts 10-15-2014 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 3001233)
American over german any day imho.

I've owned german, american, and japanese.. don't think i'd ever own american again

mishuko 10-15-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Munts (Post 3001216)
:rofl2::rofl2:

This made me laugh. Yes whatever I buy will be used. My buddy has a used BMW and he has told me some horror stories.. definitely is making me want to lean towards the Z!!

2008 335xi had 60k on it when we go it, sold at 130. long story short everything but the engine was replaced. literally.

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3001232)
Apprently mishuko likes taylor swift...:icon17:

so? :gtfo2:

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Originally Posted by Munts (Post 3001253)
I've owned german, american, and japanese.. don't think i'd ever own american again

lol... japanese only for this asian kid

Magic Bus 10-15-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadgetech (Post 3000546)
Carbon build up...is that a turbo issue?

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I believe it's a direct injection issue. I have a GTI and within three months of ownership, I couldn't remove the black carbon build up from the exhaust tips. Can't imagine what's going on inside the engine. Also not scientific, but my butt dyno tells me it's lost power due to this.

Also had to take it in twice (under warranty) for rough idle, both times dealer told me, they couldn't replicate the problem. Something was fishy here as both times when I dropped it off, I left the engine running, the service writer sat in the car and noticed it. But by some miracle, when they started it up again it went away :confused:

OP, I'd go Z & awd beater for winter. Personally, I'd avoid Audi due to my experience with the GTI, plus their refusal to acknowledge and remedy the carbon build up issue.

mishuko 10-15-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 3001273)
I believe it's a direct injection issue. I have a GTI and within three months of ownership, I couldn't remove the black carbon build up from the exhaust tips. Can't imagine what's going on inside the engine. Also not scientific, but my butt dyno tells me it's lost power due to this.

Also had to take it in twice (under warranty) for rough idle, both times dealer told me, they couldn't replicate the problem. Something was fishy here as both times when I dropped it off, I left the engine running, the service writer sat in the car and noticed it. But by some miracle, when they started it up again it went away :confused:

OP, I'd go Z & awd beater for winter. Personally, I'd avoid Audi due to my experience with the GTI, plus their refusal to acknowledge and remedy the carbon build up issue.

VW runs great until it gets off the lot. then it runs as if it's 10yrs old.

As for audi's, my cousin had an a4 quattro. ate more oil than gas! they gave it to his mom so they could get a minivan and the mom wanted a hassle free car that she didn't have to worry about low oil light coming on all the time.

she got the is250 awd....

i agree with all here, get the z for summer and a beater for the winter (used juke nismo?!?!?! or something with AWD as they give you a lot more confidence in terms of traction control in winter)... now only if i can practice what i preach =X

370z209 10-15-2014 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3000483)
It's funny because I was choosing between the same two cars. I have an SRT8 and and a Smartcar, gas guzzler and gas saver, but I wanted something in between that's was nice, pretty quick and wouldn't kill me at the pump. The S5 is a gorgeous car, but the maintenance is killer especially with the carbon build up so I chose the Nismo instead and couldn't be happier.

The carbon build up is true with the DI motors. Was tempted to trade in my a4 for an S5 but would of ran into the same problem with the motor so instead I bought another Z.

Some people get the build up with only 15k miles. Audi doesn't cover this on warranty even though its a known issue which is retarded. They charge $1,200 every time you want them to clean the carbon build up.

Long story short, I wouldn't buy another audi until they fix the DI carbon build up issue...


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