Pussification of America bro. Just like some guys cry about the clutch pedal being to stiff

Manual mode is not geared for casual driving from gears 1-4. Shifts are fast and course. It doesn't mimmick bad s shifting. It feels more like hard launching a v8. But if your life has been driving weak little 4 banger imports? You may confuse the feel for shytty shifting.:tup:

Yes, it was a CVT (YUK!!), but when you changed into sport or manual mode it shifted like a normal automatic. So when I used the paddles it was very similar to the Z, but like i said, much "more gentle".

I've driven the 7AT in the Z, and honestly I couldn't tell much difference from a dual clutch system. I also had an Audi TTS, and the shifting between the two was not that different.

Stiff clutches in these cars? Hahaha!! Jump in some old school manuals and report back.

This is why I enjoy my Z so much.
I use the paddles almost every day, it almost seems I have 500hp...lol

Yea what he said.

yah, i hear it torque locks all gears other than 1st. :tup:

are you referring to my post or are you referring to the rough 1-2 6MT owners experience?

my gearing is very short. i'd have to keep the throttle extremely steady and rev it out a bit in 1st to hit second smoothly, or just use drive. it's not rough when redlining it

6MT it's a different story.

Stiff clutch on the 370? Drive a Mustang once, or grow a pair of balls, and then re-assess your definition of "stiff.":shakes head:

Does not compute? So what you are saying is the tranny has two sets of 7 gears with different ratios?
Last time I checked trannys don't change grear ratios when shifted from auto to manual shift mode.

No... There's that algorithm input feature in auto mode. If your daily input is smooth easy acceleration in gears 1 & 2. The ecu will send smooth transmission shifts in auto mode. In manual mode, that algorithm feature is not in effect. Your throttle input is everything and the ecu is waiting for you to manually change the gears without the algorithm interference.

Now. I talk about 1-4 gearing because the auto's launch gear is 1 power gears are 2-3-4. 5 is the drive gear and 6-7 are overdrives. 2-3-4 are aggressive feeling. 5 6 7 aren't

There is some jerkiness in the first couple gears in the auto manual mode. but I think it gives the car personality. That's just me though.

Wanna hear a little joke on me? Well, earlier today a person in front was speeding up slowing down and drifting all over the place. I was driving at approx 45mph in a 50mph zone when I got overly excited and double pressed ( I assume ) the down shift paddle into second gear ( again I assume ) with a view to pass him. The car hit the rev limiter three times until I realized what I was doing ZOMG! Meaning it cut power three times as it bounced the tach needle. I duly then upshifted and finished my passing moneaver.

Do you 7AT owners let go of the throttle when you shift?


When do you shift up on normal daily driving? 3k?

I'm guessing MT and AT owners will be shifting at different points because of the extra gears in the 7at?

Dont let go of throttle. 3-4k. Anything past 5k im going to all the way to redline.

I shift in the same exact rpm's I would in the manual. Again, 6 and 7 are overdrives.

why would you let off? :confused:

one of the main benefits of a 7AT is being able to do no lift shifts lol

daily driving shifts depend on what i'm doing. just rolling through traffic leave it in 1, 2, or 3 pending gap in traffic. rolling out of red lights i'll just shift low around 3500 area since i blieve its almost 4k rpms to get it to go into 4th.

or if i need to be somewhere i'll shift around 7200-8000k :driving:

:driving:i also "love the paddle shifter" ... that's all im saying lol

Flappy paddles!

The paddles on a Z dont rotate with the wheel? WTF? Even on my car they do. How do you shift in a turn????

Paddles that rotate with the wheel are horrible. Shifting in a turn is very easy the paddles are very large.


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I thought you weren't supposed to be shifting in a turn anyway? Downshift under braking, not in the turn.

I get aggressive on this one intersection when Im behind other cars waiting for the light to turn green and go though the sweeping right. I usually get on it pretty good and go to 2nd halfway through the turn grabbing the open free lane. Im pretty much hauling *** by the time I complete it.

How does anything you just said address the fact that shifting in a turn upsets the car and you should do it before or after the turn? I thought you had track experience?

Exactly, especially if it's something you know you're going to have to do. If it's a random thing I could understand but... :shakes head:

That said, I would hope he's not anywhere near the traction limit on the streets when performing this maneuver.

LOL, on a circuit, of course, torque steer, balance, apex etc, etc. This is from a stop, immediately going into a right turn, getting on the throttle to have the open lane. What choice does one have? Turning right at 31 mph while you bounce off the limiter?

Edit: Come to think of it, when I had the 370, I did NOT upshift through this turn, it was a manual and I generally held 2nd cuz it revs higher than my Genesis.

:facepalm:

i like this thread because i get to battle the manual fanboys :yum:

and also i get to see the amount of people who just dont know how to drive the car well even with an automatic transmission.

makes me feel like a professional race driver when reading some of these statements.

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Rough shifting in manual is all user error. From my own experience I had the hardest time shifting under 3k for awhile. I had to rev to 4-5.5k in first to get a smooth shift. Now I can shift under 2k if I want to 'save' some gas for the spirited moments and it's smooth. Then again there are sweet spots too. Or I could be talking up my arse.

i've bounced the tach once on a slow redline (70%throttle or so)... never again. never again...:shakes head:


8krpm? did you tune to allow that extra 500 rpm of spin?

I thought so too... something about putting a dynamic strain on the drive shaft and tranny... although I do shift while turning if I wind out first a bit much...

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Lol.. shift in a turn??? HAIL THE DK You must drift every time you take a corner,

Paddles cover in the middle of 1/2 oclock to and 4/5 oclock. There's a lot of room 4 play You just get used having one of your hands at 9 and three. I really don't see the big deal.

Lastly I don't recommend shifting in the axis of a turn unless your goal is to either slide or cut power, depending which way you shift

yes. when i got the car tuned i had the redline raised.

but the power does drop off a bit after 7400rpm per the dyno sheets.

Good Lord, guys making it out like Im going in sideways, Fast & Furious style. LOL. Im being generous with the throttle through a right turn as the car upshifts. Sometimes I let the auto do it, sometimes I use the paddles. All I was syaing is Im simply USED to having the paddles come with me on the wheel when I turn. Itd be awkward for me NOT to have them turn but Im sure id get used to it. No where near as much fun as a manual though, paddles, no paddles.

Fixed.

;)

oh blow me. you're canadian. you're not even a real person lol

i'm confused how someone can miss these paddles. we seriously have one of the largest sets of paddles and can be hit easily from many positions.....even while turning.

and they are the same as the GT-R's :yum:

lmao funniest post in this thread.


I love the ladies from canada though!

:iagree:
Yahhh yahhhh frrrr shurrrrr frrr shurrrr! Paddles from 1 to 5.

Maybe some men have the hands of a petite 5ft schoolgirl?

:yum:

And the ladies love muricans.

:tiphat:

i dont even have that large of hands and i see no way i'd ever have an issue lol

In about 20yrs there will be autopilot vs manual driving threads. And of course autopilot will be better because its faster!!!


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