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I listen to The Smoking Tire Matt Farah's podcast and he said that video doesn't at all represent what that car is capable of. He recently did another video driving through the canyons of California praising how it goes around corners. Matt Farah is also the one that said the Hellcat pulled the same numbers as the Alpha 4C in the figure 8.



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wait..........what are mufflers? :stirthepot:

:bowrofl: i forgot about this video lol

Not really. What he described will get you around 12.7 second quarters in a Z if tuned properly and on the right tires.

A well F.I.'d Z will run the low 11.

agreed. my best is 12.89 on street tires with intake/exhaust and a tune. with DR's maybe a 12.5-12.7

plus a nice drive mod with me in the drivers seat :tiphat:

Why would you buy a red one? :stirthepot:

Actually that was the only one available. But i would prefer a white one.

Vette all day, the new one is amazing. I've driven a bunch, sold a bunch, and have one of the first Z06's on order for a customer of mine. ******* epic.

I honestly find questions like this to be absolutely pointless. You bought a Z, which is great, welcome to the club. But now you are having second thoughts about it because you remembered that you had a crush on Corvettes. Honestly, why did you buy the Z in the first place if the love of your life is a 'Vette? You could have just saved the money you will inevitably lose on the trade-in and bought the 'Vette first. I think it's readily apparent that you have your heart set on the Vette, so go buy it. Nobody here is really going to be able to persuade you otherwise, and if they somehow managed to do so, you will spend the rest of your time wondering about it and driving yourself crazy. NOT WORTH IT!

And asking a web forum that is already biased towards the Z whether or not you should do said trade to me seems like a waste of time. This group is more objective than most, I will grant you, but you will still get plenty of people who will tell you the Z is the better bet, something that you may or may not agree with. So now we have rekindled the Vette vs. Z fight that happens every time someone asks this question. And believe me when I say that this same fight has happened many, MANY times before. You would have been better off searching the forums for one of the previous bouts. At least then you could have gotten the same info without having any of the eventual flames getting thrown at you.

And since we are on this topic anyway, screw the Vette, go buy a Nismo GTR and go piss of some Vette owners. You may find that more enjoyable.

That's what I did. I actually owned the Z06 first and bought a 370Z earlier this year. Love em both. The 370 is a great little car.

"Made in Japan"
 

My stock Kawasaki ZX9R (10.3 sec ¼ mi) will beat the Vette in the video. For build and component quality sorry, you can’t beat “Made in Japan”. Both my 350Z and 370Z are engineering and assembly works of art. I have also owned a “68” Firebird 400, “69” Nova 396, a “75” Monza with a 262 V8 and a “62 “ Vette with a 327 / 350 hp drop-in. All of my GM “Hot Rods” disintegrated from the inside out. Push rod motors just don’t have the life span. They were all great fun while they lasted (About 50k miles before major engine repair) Our Nissan VQ37VHR engines are engineered about 3 decimal points greater to the right than the GM stuff. Also, to be fair, you should be looking at the GTR.

Haha yes, point taken. It appears that I offended quite a few people on this forum. My apologies. Some would argue that I fit into the "midlife crisis" category with a Z as well :tup:

Didnt the C7s start around 55k? Those are a steal if you can drop 6 bills a month on a car. I wasn't ready for it yet, even though I considered it for months before the Z.

No regrets though, Im loving the Z!

Buy it cash.

Na man. This Murica. Debt. Don't save, don't put money down. Just go buy a car until you can't afford it no longer. File bankruptcy and work for GTM.

Not sure where I belong in this back and forth but I love my '12 Grand Sport and I'm still in my 40s. Like the OP, I always wanted a Vette as well so he'll probably end up with one. The fit and finish are fine and the power is scary fast as it is.

I had a 370Z and if I had the money, would still have it if I could. Both Vette and Z are as common as Accords here and I've had positive comments on both. Whenever I see a Z around town, I still admire it as one of the most beautiful body shapes made.

I'm not going to bother with quarter-mile times and what "could" be with some mods etc. between the Z since and the Vette since I love them both and such arguments are just academic anyway. Since it was brought up, that 2-ton abomination Hellcat is going to need as much HP as it can muster just to beat a minivan and even if it won, it's still fugly.

^ I would listen and trust a guy who drives and own a vett. Period.

z or vette
 

Not trying to be a Hellcat cheerleader but where can I get a minivan that runs 10-11 seconds in the 1/4 mile stock? I laughed at it to when it fist came out but it's proven to be very competent and to say its slow is ridiculous.



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I'm obviously exaggerating for fun but to also underscore the point that there's too much fixation on technical specs, HP and track times when ultimately, folks are going to get what they desire most inside.

I got my GS because I simply wanted one, not because the Z was bad or lesser in any way. In fact, I still think the Z is better looking. I never had a spreadsheet comparison of the two with performance differences, gear ratios, power-to-weight, top speed, track times and so on because none of that matters to me in the real world. As I said, if I could've afforded to, I would still have my Z as well. Hell, I'd still have a stripped down Miata track rat if I had more garage space.

I agree. Obviously the first item is the money. If that wasn't an issue we would all be rolling around in GTRs, Lambos, Veyrons, etc.

If you want more power than a Z, sure get a Vette. It may cost you more, but it's readily available. Hell, lets not forget the fact that there are stock cars that can eat a Vette for lunch, wipe off their chin, and ask for seconds. But a majority of those cost even more, frequently breaking the 6 figure mark. So now we come back to the whole "Bang for the Buck" bit.

Sure, the Vette is impressive for it's price point. There is no way that GM would do anything less for a car that they've been making for over 60 years. For $60-70k (less if you are willing to buy used) you can own a car that will leave the vast majority of vehicles on the road back in the dust. The Z can claim the same thing (albeit to a somewhat lesser extent), but can claim it for $15-20k less. So which is more important; saving the money, or having the power? Answer that question, and you have your answer to the original question.

Wanna talk mods, sure, but the funny thing about mods is that what can be done to one car, can most likely be done to the other. And as the old adage goes, "There is no replacement, for displacement." Hell, throw enough money at anything, and you can make it king of the hill, if only for a little while. I think Hennesey proved that when they took a Lotus Elise/Exige, modded the **** out of it, dropped a Chevy 427 with TT in it, and made a car that outruns the highest tier Bugatti Veyron, and for roughly half the money.

But then again, opinion trumps all. As Nargrakhan had already stated, the OP has already made up his mind, but he seems to want someone to talk him out of it.

I've had a Z since I was 17. Bought my 84 300zx on my own and fell in love. At 18 I bought a 280z in addition to my 300zx. When I graduated from med school I bought myself an 09 370z touring sport as a grad present to myself. Sadly a year and a half later it was totaled. I replaced it with a 2010 370z NISMO. At the end of last year my Z was involved in an accident (no luck) and I begged the insurance company and body shop to total it. The screwed me claiming it was worth more than it was, so it was fixed. Long story short it was a nightmare that took almost three months and the car was never the same.

So a few months ago I sold it and was car shopping. Nothing but another Z or a vette were on my list. My fiance already had a Camaro 1LE which i love but didn't feel like having identical cars. The STI is a car I've always loved with only 305HP no way. Couldn't bring myself to like the mustang. After lots a searching and a drive to Arizona I bought a 2012 Grand Sport with under 3k miles on it. Flawless car. I haven't been happier.

The Z is a great car but needed a change. Plus for the money I no longer think the Z is the best deal. Sure it's fast and corners great, but the mustang and Camaro are faster while cornering just as well. No I'm not nit picking down to tenths of tenths. In general the domestic competitors are just a better bargain. The Z has fallen behind and is in serious need of a refresh. Compared to the Vette, there is no comparison. It's better in just about every way or equal to at the worst, except in in-town gas mileage. The Z wins there but loses in fwy gas mileage.

Where I'm at Z's are rare and Vettes are common, yet with-in days of owning my Vette I was already getting more attention in it than my Z did in all years ow ownership. No sure why. Personally I think the Z is a sexier looking car but I guess majority of people think otherwise.

Lastly, I did consider a C7 Vette but decided to wait for now until mid cycle so they could iron out the bugs. Guess it's a good thing given recent events regarding the C7. However after having my Grans Sport I'm in no hurry as it's a wonderful car.

Ninja edit: It does kind of suck being the youngest member of my Car club at 32, most everyone else is older. Sadly average age of Vette owners is something like 65

well written, post some pictures of grandsport its a sexy looking beast:)

It would be awkward if I bought a Vette then. LoL. It's weird when you're so much younger then your entire car club.

Heck yeah! Let's see it. :tup:

I really think it's a price point for the majority of us here. In respect, both cars are beautiful and have their own personality but very similar in a lot of ways. I have always told myself that I would own a Vette by the time I'm 40 but now on the verge of 50 I still don't own one mainly due to cost. I'm very cautious when it come to buying a used sports car and buying a brand new Vette is out of my range. Needless to say I have always loved the Z too and am very happy with it. I have always rooted for the underdog and to get it to surprise that fellow camaro, mustang, and soon to be a few Vettes out there. I will always be a Vette fan for sure but with my Z at its price point cannot beat. I think a lot of us are probably in that realm of finances. We have other priorities in life that take our fun money away

Come on share the porn star!

Nola you could always make an excuse that your dad lend you the vett in exchange for you letting him drive the Z to his 60th high school class reunion! Lol

Im sure he will be the talk of his class reunion.

i still feel like i need my AARP card to own a vette.

seriously though any vette new or old i see is driven by men in their late 40s/50s/60s

only young people i know with vettes is a friend who daddy has bought him 3 vettes since he was 16 and really douchey dudes.

as much as i am a GM guy at heart and think the new C7 especially the Z06 is just pure sex......i have trouble buying one based on the scene. i mean the Z crowd is a great crowd to hang around. plus zdayz shows how awesome our community is.

i mean if i show up in a 2015 C7 Z06 i think i'll still be welcomed right?......lol

The average age of a Z owner is 49. Lol

Really wow guess I'm in the minority since I own my Z at 28.


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im even more in the minority.

bought my Z in june 2011 at the age of 24 :eek:

only 27 now.

z or vette
 

I will add that with the C7, from what I've seen, the average age if guys buying them is WAY lower than it was with the C6. Excluding the first batch which was all older collectors.

i havent seen 1 man under the age of 55 with one yet and they are a ton of C7's in my area already.

maybe in Florida it's different when the avg age is 70 so 50 seems younger lol :rofl2:

You just have to find the right crowd. When I lived in Texas, there were a bunch of younger guys that owned Vettes... highly, highly modified. They only came out at night and did illegal things on the streets, lol.

Chevrolets newest headache.
In "valet" mode the Vette records driving data and the driver. Now that's been deemed illegal without the drivers consent.
I guess with thinking like that my security camera at home is illegal without the burglars consent.

I got a flyer from State Farm for my wife's Sentra offering a discount if she signed up. The catch is that she has to link her car with software so it can report her driving habits to them. Of course nothing was offered to me with my Z. I wonder why?
Yea the black box is not limited to planes anymore.

I would have bought a C6 Z06 if it didn't have ground clearance issues.
The Z scrapes some where I drive. Corvettes have long noses and are lower, so no way it would work.

yea i've driven my firends C6 many times and it's so much worse than driving the Z.

sadly he's never paid for any of his 3 vettes and he just bangs the nose off of everything without care. makes me sad for the car. :shakes head:

nor does he ever wash it or do any mechanical care. it's like a neglected child. i wanna go adopt it like i'm brad & angelina lol

just this child would be american. they dont do those things lol

All of the insurance companies are pushing the black boxes. Progressive just thinks they're cute with their little silver one and having their in house marketing doll push it. Rental car companies have been using them for years now, as have a number of fleet companies.

Personally, I refuse to use them, even with a huge discount. It will probably take more than a new law to make me put one in any vehicle I own.