i give up :shakes head:

Me too. Lets just say he is right and maybe this will go away.

Don't mean to derail this thread but can you really get two bags of golf clubs in a Z? If yes, show me / tell me how?

Please de-rail away.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_xXwPrxQbK18/S-...lf%20Clubs.JPG

http://www.the370z.com/images/japan%...golf%20bag.jpg

Thanks CoolToy and Madwi.

Now I can load my clubs in the Z instead of the Lexus on the weekends :D

:tup: :driving:

I don't drive the Z much except on the weekends...it's my weekend squeeze ( I just went old school ) :D Also, I love driving my Lexus.

....thread back on track.

Thread was much better when derailed.

What model Lexus do you have?

I have a 2013 Pearl White ES300h Ultra Luxury with custom 20" wheels.

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Excellent :tup: Very nice.

Okay...I never intended to criticize those who did not DD their car. I apologize ig it got too far. I live about 2 hours south of St. Louis and it does snow a bit and does get dirty during the winters. Now that I got my newer 2013 Z, I am thinking that rather than buying a beater, I should consider buying Blizzaks and DD through the winter.

It snows only about 12 inches in the entire winter and there may be just 15-20 days that driving a rear wheel car could be dangerous.

8 Vehicles for the road, three for the dirt, one for the snow. one for the water.
Z is just another hoe in my harem.

You might want to consider sharpening your analogy game.

BTW, you do realize this is not an exclusively male forum, don't you?

I like to keep my toys clean. It's the same reason I don't wear my nicest watch or my custom suit/shirts every day. I could, but why? A Z will do just fine in the winter with snow tires, but this last winter, we got 12inches of snow in one day. I'd rather have a second car. It's far more useful than just keeping the Z clean. If you're a home owner who has done renovations, you know what I'm talking about.

This is not the place to go all PC, is it? Apologies to the ladies. Insert "man" and "boyfriend" where applicable.

No pun intended.

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I love how people just assume second cars are 'beaters'. Most on here have pretty decent second cars, not some rust bucket Grand Am

I dd the Z and only use my other car when it rains. So it is weather related as it was for many here in the forum. Now the Z will definitely be my daily rain or shine because I gave my daily to my son who went off to college.

What I wish however is the will other members have to let it rest for a little bit and use another car for a dd. I just don't have the will power. Yes I am weak.

I didn't think rain would cause corrosion by itself. I know as it rains a lot in Florida but most older cars I see look like new underneath over here. Compared to when I was in the UK rust galore due to winter salting of the roads.

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Hey guys don't you know daily driving your Z is like making your beautiful wife plow the fields all day preparing to plant potatoes, stomping around in manure and dirt, coated with sweat and filth, and then you get to make love to her grimy, stinky *** all weekend. Don't you guys love your wives? :ugh2:

Rain will absolutely rust your undercarriage. Just not as fast as salt water, which is essentially what the road salt turns into when it melts the ice.

Those older cars may look ok, but I guarantee you there is significantly more rust on their exhaust piping if you compared it to a weekend driver's car of the same age and model.

Because this is Minnesota. It snows in November and the snow stays until March. Even if it was safe to drive a Z car in those kind of road conditions, it's most certainly not fun. Driving the Z car in the winter defeats the purpose of owning a car because it's fun to drive.

^^I'm with this guy. MN resident my whole life and ever since I've owned a nice car, I have had a winter beater. And when I say beater, I mean a POS that I don't care about. I typically pay $1000 or less, drive the crap out of it, then scrap it when it dies. Currently I have a 1991 Volvo and 1995 VW cabrio to beat up on in the winter. Combined I payed less than $1500.

I have a 2004 VW Jetta I daily drive in the summer

I don't think the Z would be safe in snow, I would never attempt it.

The Z is plenty safe in the snow with proper wheels and snow tires :driving:

It's all the other idiots that drive in the snow that are the reason I would never attempt it. That and the fact that I live in a location where our yearly snowfall is recorded in tenths of an inch.

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For me it's more the amount of snow we can get in one snow fall. It would be my luck that I head out, then it snows 6-7 inches, and then I'd be stuck until the plows get around. Plus who wants all that salt garbage all over your nice car :tup:

Yes, but I thought this thread was about sex, no? :rolleyes:

Stop enjoying things differently than me! :mad:

I daily drove my 350 when I lived in Wisconsin. It was ok to drive in winter with blizzaks but it sure did suck when it snowed more than 3 inches while at work. Donuts were fun though. I would much rather drive my four wheel drive truck any day of the week in the winter versus the 370 with snow tires. I still use my truck a lot during the summer too. I'd rather the truck take a hit from a shopping cart or a idiots door than the Z. It makes Z time just that much sweeter to me.

Funny you mention exhaust, that is kinda sorta how I guage initial rust. It always starts on the factory weld joints of exhaust and subframe areas. Worst I see in florida is some light browning of the weld seams. I think the car would last in excess of 20 years with just rain if not more here. Main culprit here in FL is sun UV damage which kills paint of more than any rust. Not unless you are parked on a beach frequently which I dont.

My wives previous ride was a 2006 Malibu, the floorpan was clean as whistle and it had over 120K miles on it and parked outside.

Now the same car or similar in a salt belt would have been perforated underneath. Yes, indeed water will corrode bare metal, but it will take ages without salt. Back in England they salted the roads in winter, you would be lucky to be rust free for more than 7 years and I am not just talking about the underpan areas, wheel arches would perforate.

I bought my current Z in St. Cloud, traded my old one there. Big fan of Miller. When I traded my 2011 for my current 2014 in late late February, it snowed two days before I was going to go down and make the trade (90 miles). I couldn't even get my Z out of my garage---zero traction. Miller Auto actually brought the new one to my house on a flatbed, dropped it off and took the old one away. I concluded the whole deal at my kitchen table without even setting foot in the dealership at any point in the process. It was about as easy as ordering a pizza.

My winter DD is a 4WD GMC Sierra. It's a lot more fun to drive in 5-or-more inches of snow than any Z car.

Me personally, I baby sports cars or other "recreational" vehicles that I've owned.

To digress a little, I used to think that the rest of the world should see things the same way as me....You go through a lot of heartache and undue stress if you do that. I know, I learned the hard way up until my latter 20's. I don't try to foist my POV on people as passionately as I used to. If I hear a stranger getting ahead of him/herself about some topic, that I got experience & knowledge in, but this person is talking out of his/her ***, then I ignore them. If it's a loved one or close friend, then I try to convince him/her to see it my way...if I think they're gonna screw themselves.

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I know what you mean but I was not worried about the rust when I speak of rain, more about the amount of work to clean it again.