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FPenvy 10-06-2014 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBoomSpoon (Post 2989669)
Just today i pass an altima 3.5ser, just going around a slower car and all of a sudden he guns it with his 3 or 4 passengers and paases me looking over at me. Its those altima race car commercials, every altima even the 2.5 are now faster than the z even loaded down.

The world is dumb!

:confused:

this makes zero sense. obviously he will pass you if he guns it and you dont. BUT the altima is not faster than a Z loaded down or not.

:facepalm:

put your right foot down hard and come back to report the results.

b15 10-06-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2990051)
:confused:

this makes zero sense. obviously he will pass you if he guns it and you dont. BUT the altima is not faster than a Z loaded down or not.

:facepalm:

put your right foot down hard and come back to report the results.

Not necessarily. Altimas (6mt) are just as quick as a 350z (non hr) especially an 07+ Altima (revised 2nd gen vq35de with a much better top end). I agree, against a 370z it cannot hang, but with a few mods they move. Don't under estimate them, especially a 6spd version. I used to have an 08 3.5se and miss that car.

FPenvy 10-06-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2990130)
Not necessarily. Altimas (6mt) are just as quick as a 350z (non hr) especially an 07+ Altima (revised 2nd gen vq35de with a much better top end). I agree, against a 370z it cannot hang, but with a few mods they move. Don't under estimate them, especially a 6spd version. I used to have an 08 3.5se and miss that car.

well obviously i was talking about a 370Z since thats what we all pretty much have and it's called the370Z.com lol

they dont stand a chance against a 370Z period.

lets go with 2015 specs:

Altima 4 door: 182HP - 3191lbs
370Z automatic version: 332hp - 3320lbs

anyone wanna do a HP/weight ratio on that?

:tiphat:

sizziano 10-06-2014 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Majorwoody (Post 2989939)
4 post and you wanna flex your muscle as an internet thug. My bad, what I meant was the 3.7 vq engine is capable of handling TT.



With all due respect :gtfo2: ! At least I support this forum and own a 370z.


I'm sorry if I offended but your original post was pretty ridicoulous. Anyways I do have a 370 just got it and havent had time to post in the intro section yet.

b15 10-06-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2990137)
well obviously i was talking about a 370Z since thats what we all pretty much have and it's called the370Z.com lol

they dont stand a chance against a 370Z period.

lets go with 2015 specs:

Altima 4 door: 182HP - 3191lbs
370Z automatic version: 332hp - 3320lbs

anyone wanna do a HP/weight ratio on that?

:tiphat:

If your going to be techinical, you said 'a Z' last I checked 'a Z' didn't equal 370z only. You should clarify your blanket statements.

Secondly a 2015 altima v6 is 270hp but paired with a CVT. Still no chance, agreed. A 6mt 07-09 v6 with intake, exhaust, and tune will keeping up with a stock 370z until 80 given equal drivers. Stock for stock, however, no chance. It's clear you don't know anything about those cars, except 'they have no chance'. Flame away.

FPenvy 10-06-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2990245)
If your going to be techinical, you said 'a Z' last I checked 'a Z' didn't equal 370z only. You should clarify your blanket statements.

Secondly a 2015 altima v6 is 270hp but paired with a CVT. Still no chance, agreed. A 6mt 07-09 v6 with intake, exhaust, and tune will keeping up with a stock 370z until 80 given equal drivers. Stock for stock, however, no chance. It's clear you don't know anything about those cars, except 'they have no chance'. Flame away.

first i do know about these cars and plenty more than you trust me.

i was quoting a guys comment who has a 370z so its quite obvious i wasnt talking about a 350.

and even the V6 version of an altima with 270HP is 3440lbs. still HP/weight ratio is not in its favor again.

again in the quote i was commenting on i highly doubt the altima in his story was a 6mt with bolt ons and a tune.

you are going out on a limb that wasnt the reason for my original comment.

now as for you 07-09 6mt bolt on and tuned altima i will happily smack one around and prove it still aint shit to a 370Z with bolt ons and tune :tiphat:

please fully read comments with the statement being quoted before coming at me about my comments which are correct and factual.

i will win everytime :tup:

b15 10-06-2014 10:40 AM

No it's obvious you know nothing about those cars. Then you go on to compare specs with a 4cyl? Good job. Lastly, I did read your comments, can you read? I said stock for stock it can't keep up. So obviously mod for mod it'd be the same.

This has moved beyond the original post. I don't even know what the original post was. I'm just referring to your blanket statement that they 'have no chance' It's people like you that give Z/G owners a bad image in the VQ community.

mishuko 10-06-2014 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2990266)
No it's obvious you know nothing about those cars. Then you go on to compare specs with a 4cyl? Good job. Lastly, I did read your comments, can you read? I said stock for stock it can't keep up. So obviously mod for mod it'd be the same.

This has moved beyond the original post. I don't even know what the original post was. I'm just referring to your blanket statement that they 'have no chance' It's people like you that give Z/G owners a bad image in the VQ community.

if that were the case of cylinder/size etc then there would be about 10 less pages of people comparing Z-engine to a mustang 5.0, the vettes, anything turbo'd, etc etc etc etc....

everyone will try to compare cars it's fine.

This is where you see the difference between a true car enthusiast (someone who can appreciate cars for their engineering) and a fan boy (someone who flogs only 1 brand and shuts down the rest).

feed the trolls though because it gives good entertainment value for everyone!

Trips 10-06-2014 12:45 PM

Morning everyone,

Not what I would expect from members on a Monday :ugh2:

Im going to PLEASE ask that WE all dial back the personal attacks, and move the discussion to the topic of this thread.

Im going to cleap-up the past two pages so its where it should be.

IF you guys are just going to argue? Please use the ignore list.

If the idea was to just derail things because we're bored? I don't think so, and you may need to find somewhere else to troll.

This is the only reminder to all once again to "Please Keep it on Topic"


Thanks.

I honestly haven't given much thought to anything past 2015 :(

UNKNOWN_370 10-06-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBoomSpoon (Post 2989669)
Just today i pass an altima 3.5ser, just going around a slower car and all of a sudden he guns it with his 3 or 4 passengers and paases me looking over at me. Its those altima race car commercials, every altima even the 2.5 are now faster than the z even loaded down.

The world is dumb!

I had a 3.5, they are very fast for what they are but, that cvt has mushy faux gear changes and you can't do a tight 90degree turn at high velocity. The suspension is 350z firm and stable at high speeds. A great straight liner. But it's far from a Z. This is my issue right here. We would all like the Z to increase in performance, but I don't want it to become an American style muscle car to do it. There is no na/v6 outperforming the Z. Be proud of that. When the Z goes turbo, and you read the stats, yall will go fanboy again.

TheBoomSpoon 10-06-2014 05:32 PM

Can i really be a 40+ fanboy. Awesome! I'll do it if its factory turbo. I'll even start tellung ppl how "tight" my z is.

edk370 10-06-2014 06:10 PM

Seriously, I saw a big bodied Audi (I think it was an A8) keep up with a GT-R yesterday on the street. The GT-R was barely pulling ahead. Are those heavy *** Audis really that fast? Must be AWD and 450+ hp FI'd for it to keep up with an 11-sec car. Anyways, I was impressed...But both drivers should've been caught by the cops. I don't condone reckless driving for the sake of egos. Someone could've been hurt.

edk370 10-06-2014 06:16 PM

Oh yeah, back on topic. Autoweek stated that sources from Nissan say that the next Z will be an "internationally" marketed car. The Z was a Japan and North American market car, until now. Hence, a 2.0 4-cyl turbo and a 6-cyl hybrid are definitely in the works. The GT-R is Nissan's halo car as the Z steps out of the limelight. Better look at Corvette, Mustang, Camaro if you want raw "throw me back in the seat" torque with 12 sec 1/4's all day long. Or if you can afford it, go the Cayman/991 (3.4) route with 320 hp, mid engine, and high 12s via superior German engineering. The Z will lower its status as a "FR-S, Mustang V6/4-cyl-turbo, Miata" competitor....Nissan has dropped the baton. I will not look forward to the next Z.

TheBoomSpoon 10-06-2014 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 2991018)
Oh yeah, back on topic. Autoweek stated that sources from Nissan say that the next Z will be an "internationally" marketed car. The Z was a Japan and North American market car, until now. Hence, a 2.0 4-cyl turbo and a 6-cyl hybrid are definitely in the works. The GT-R is Nissan's halo car as the Z steps out of the limelight. Better look at Corvette, Mustang, Camaro if you want raw "throw me back in the seat" torque with 12 sec 1/4's all day long. Or if you can afford it, go the Cayman/991 (3.4) route with 320 hp, mid engine, and high 12s via superior German engineering. The Z will lower its status as a "FR-S, Mustang V6/4-cyl-turbo, Miata" competitor....Nissan has dropped the baton. I will not look forward to the next Z.

I really hope this isn't the case.

Drakonis GTR 10-06-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 2991018)
Oh yeah, back on topic. Autoweek stated that sources from Nissan say that the next Z will be an "internationally" marketed car. The Z was a Japan and North American market car, until now. Hence, a 2.0 4-cyl turbo and a 6-cyl hybrid are definitely in the works. The GT-R is Nissan's halo car as the Z steps out of the limelight. Better look at Corvette, Mustang, Camaro if you want raw "throw me back in the seat" torque with 12 sec 1/4's all day long. Or if you can afford it, go the Cayman/991 (3.4) route with 320 hp, mid engine, and high 12s via superior German engineering. The Z will lower its status as a "FR-S, Mustang V6/4-cyl-turbo, Miata" competitor....Nissan has dropped the baton. I will not look forward to the next Z.

I believe someone had quoted that same report from Autoweek earlier in the thread. The problem is that there are already a couple of other sources that have stated similar information, but with different specs, so we already have conflicting reports. The speculation it seems is running wild, and every car rag that even bothers to mention the Z seems to have their own take on what it will be. I guess at this point we are pretty much stuck with the same old info until Nissan finally opens up. Here's to hoping that what Autoweek is predicting proves to be false.


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