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VCuomo 05-19-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by big daddy (Post 2825000)
... I do think of all the high-end dealers I've felt with the have a lot to be desired. You may think Nissan = high end

When you are spending a 100k+ on a car you'd like to be treated like a human being. I don't expect them to wash/detail it like BMW, Infiniti, Audi .....but some customer service would be nice :tiphat: ...

Actually, no, Nissan does not = high end at all. That's why they have Infiniti. The GTR is the only "high-end" car offered by Nissan dealerships, IMO. Unfortunately, they treated you like a "low-end" customer (just like 99% of the cars they sell).

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Originally Posted by big daddy (Post 2825000)
... Think about how much we paid for, love and baby our cars. All I'm saying is some customer service (love) would go a long way

I just wish they would treat our cars like we do.

:iagree:




So, how do you like the Corvette? :)

big daddy 05-19-2014 03:32 PM

I have to agree with everything you just said :tiphat:


The corvette is it a great car and I love to drive it. It has all the power and is comfortible to drive.

RonRizz 05-19-2014 04:59 PM

:rolleyes:Yeah, get rid of the Z, and get a car that you will have Absolutely NO problems with. Let me know what that car turns out to be.
And my dealer offers a car wash after EVERY service call, no matter how minor, for those who want it. I stopped in to pick up some touch up paint, and they offered me a free wash.
Some dealers suck, some don't.

Tazicon 05-19-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Zensation (Post 2824565)
I definitely appreciate all the input guys. By no means am I trying to turn this into a flame thread as I have appreciated the z for what it has been as I appreciate cars from every make. Most ppl seem to view trading the z for a mustang as like the last car I'll ever own or something like I'm making this horrible mistake I'll never be able to live down lol. I look at it as an opportunity to try something new and if I don't like it I can always move on lol. So far the leather interior of the mustang and the throaty growl of that v8 seem to best the 370 for me (at least until Nissan decides to put out the z35) plus as I don't autox or track the nismo the pros for owning one (like the handling ) seem under utilyzed where as I can use that v8 acceleration at any stop light I want. The z has been an awesome car but maybe I'm just due for a change.

I change cars more often than some change underware. The differance is I don't ask others if I should do it, I guess being older I make up my mind and do what I want and don't really give a crud what others think. Make the change, nothing is permanent, you can always change again down the road.

JARblue 05-19-2014 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 2825240)
:rolleyes:Yeah, get rid of the Z, and get a car that you will have Absolutely NO problems with. Let me know what that car turns out to be.
And my dealer offers a car wash after EVERY service call, no matter how minor, for those who want it. I stopped in to pick up some touch up paint, and they offered me a free wash.
Some dealers suck, some don't.

The Acura dealer we have an ILX lease through is actually very customer service oriented. Nice lounge always stocked with drinks and food. Friendly staff. These are all great, but IMO the dealer should be more focused on the service they provide to the car than the customer.

They also offer a free wash anytime. Just drive it by and they'll run it through right quick. It's an old car wash with the big brushes! I bet that's why all their new cars on the lot have swirl marks :shakes head:

They also do not follow their own recommended oil weights. The car calls for 0W-20 (full synthetic that costs around $60 at the neighborhood shop). The manual says you can use 5W-20 (synthetic blend) if you can't find 0W-20, but you should only do this once before switching back to the full synthetic. However, the dealer offers $35 oil changes via email coupon. I confirmed that they will never put 0W-20 in it if you use these coupons (I asked specifically). I now change the oil myself because I can use Mobil 1 0W-20 for the same price they charge for 5W-20 and I don't have to be inconvenienced by taking it to the dealer.

Zensation 05-19-2014 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazicon (Post 2825252)
I change cars more often than some change underware. The differance is I don't ask others if I should do it, I guess being older I make up my mind and do what I want and don't really give a crud what others think. Make the change, nothing is permanent, you can always change again down the road.


Kind of a douchey response. I wasn't asking if I should trade my car I'm a part of a community and I wanted input from that community on something of relevance. Just tapping into the experience of others on a car I've driven but never owned. Judging by most of the responses It was a valid topic of conversation. It was my like some ppl that post "hey u guys think I should buy a Gtr I make lots of money and I want one"....where everyone knows exactly what they're gonna do they just want a response.

roadrash666 05-19-2014 05:54 PM

The Mustang GT was about my fifth choice for a car to replace my Lincoln LS that my daughter wanted for her high school graduation present.(370 was first but I'm too tall) I went to look at one at the dealership where my wife works and left with a G37 coupe. The build quality of the Infiniti and my wifes 370Z is leaps and bounds better than any Ford product. If you need a backseat you should seriously consider a G37, coupe or sedan. The GT I looked at was a '12 with 5.xxx miles and I could have bought it for 26k without an employee discount.(it hadn't been on the lot long enough) The original sticker was over 39k. I personally wouldn't trade a Nismo for a Mustang, but you can do what you want.

Cell 05-19-2014 05:59 PM

Modified CSC with stage 3 clutch/fly wheel kit + turbo fixed nissans poor CSC. :tup:

I like the new mustang looks but would not take the hit in cost for it though. Not worth it in my book.

I would rather drive it till the motor blows and drop an LS motor in the Z but the Z is a keeper for me.

UNKNOWN_370 05-19-2014 06:21 PM

If it's not the actual 302? Don't do it.

Zensation 05-19-2014 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by roadrash666 (Post 2825288)
The Mustang GT was about my fifth choice for a car to replace my Lincoln LS that my daughter wanted for her high school graduation present.(370 was first but I'm too tall) I went to look at one at the dealership where my wife works and left with a G37 coupe. The build quality of the Infiniti and my wifes 370Z is leaps and bounds better than any Ford product. If you need a backseat you should seriously consider a G37, coupe or sedan. The GT I looked at was a '12 with 5.xxx miles and I could have bought it for 26k without an employee discount.(it hadn't been on the lot long enough) The original sticker was over 39k. I personally wouldn't trade a Nismo for a Mustang, but you can do what you want.

I respect your opinion I really do and the z is one beautiful car and I fell in love with it when I drove it the first time and still love driving it to this day. The Mustang is just a different kind of car altogether...but to say that nissan and the 370z has a better build quality than the mustang is laughable! The reasons? Pick any number of the *CHRONIC* annoying poor quality issues that happen with the z, in case your new to the platform let me list some out for you:

1) Steering lock failure....get a tow
2) CSC failure....get a tow
3) fuel starvation from right hand turns with more than 1/4 tank of gas in a car thats supposed to be made to handle tight....wait for an hour till a truck can bring you gas
4) Annoying hatch squeek from tolerance loostening
5) Limp mode due to oil overheating
6) Axle clicking
7) VLSD which isnt really an LSD after 10k miles
...and more

Is the Z exclusive? yeah. Is it fun to drive? yeah provided it doesn't randomly leave you stranded. Is it built better quality than a mustang? no, no it isn't. Granted all of these issues are fixable, most cost a pretty penny but the z was for sale to the same crowd the mustang 5.0 was available to at around the same price. The reason they are exclusive is because Nissan couldn't sell them. Props to Nissan for making a beautiful car but props to Ford for knowing how to sell one.

m4a1mustang 05-19-2014 07:53 PM

It sounds like you want something new, so I'd just go ahead and roll with it.

onzedge 05-19-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2824561)
i wouldnt do it. there's a reason why the other party wants your older, higher milage car. think about it before you pull the trigger.

:iagree:

roadrash666 05-19-2014 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zensation (Post 2825460)
I respect your opinion I really do and the z is one beautiful car and I fell in love with it when I drove it the first time and still love driving it to this day. The Mustang is just a different kind of car altogether...but to say that nissan and the 370z has a better build quality than the mustang is laughable! The reasons? Pick any number of the *CHRONIC* annoying poor quality issues that happen with the z, in case your new to the platform let me list some out for you:

1) Steering lock failure....get a tow
2) CSC failure....get a tow
3) fuel starvation from right hand turns with more than 1/4 tank of gas in a car thats supposed to be made to handle tight....wait for an hour till a truck can bring you gas
4) Annoying hatch squeek from tolerance loostening
5) Limp mode due to oil overheating
6) Axle clicking
7) VLSD which isnt really an LSD after 10k miles
...and more

Is the Z exclusive? yeah. Is it fun to drive? yeah provided it doesn't randomly leave you stranded. Is it built better quality than a mustang? no, no it isn't. Granted all of these issues are fixable, most cost a pretty penny but the z was for sale to the same crowd the mustang 5.0 was available to at around the same price. The reason they are exclusive is because Nissan couldn't sell them. Props to Nissan for making a beautiful car but props to Ford for knowing how to sell one.

Not going to get in a I know more than you do pissing match, but I've been a mechanic for over 30 years.(not a tech there's a difference). Ford has their share of problems too, I replaced an engine in her F150 at 70k miles. Owned it since new, synthetic oil, babied it, and never pulled anything heavier than my race bike on an open trailer. The Ford chinese built 6 speed manual in the GT is a HUGE pos. My G37 has 37XXX miles on it and is solid as a rock and the VLSD works just fine. Drop a line when you get 80k on that GT and let us know how happy you are with it then. I'm not trying to be a d@!k just my 2 cents. I'm done with U.S. Chinese made crap, and if you think Nissan customer service sucks, you're gonna LOVE Ford. One last point, and then I'm going to bounce. My wife worked for the Ford dealer where she bought her truck and she was treated WORSE than a 'regular' customer. The Nissan dealer she works for now has treated her very well when she had any issues with her new Z.(Paint correction and key fob malfunction). An ******* service manager can sour your whole dealership experience. Enjoy the GT if you get it and best of luck.

Roddy1 05-19-2014 09:30 PM

Mustang... No. Everyone has them. They are not classy. That's just me, and each to their own but I'm glad I did not buy one myself.

I did look into them, the bang for the buck is great. I rented a 5.0 automatic on vacation, I really wasn't that blown away by it at all. I'd prefer to stay away from the Mustang and Camaro personally. There are about 10 of each on block I'm sure (exaggeration but you get the point).

Elan 05-19-2014 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Zensation (Post 2825271)
Kind of a douchey response. I wasn't asking if I should trade my car I'm a part of a community and I wanted input from that community on something of relevance. Just tapping into the experience of others on a car I've driven but never owned. Judging by most of the responses It was a valid topic of conversation. It was my like some ppl that post "hey u guys think I should buy a Gtr I make lots of money and I want one"....where everyone knows exactly what they're gonna do they just want a response.

I think it was a very solid question. It seems like OP wants to get away from Nissan and wants to know what some think about the 5.0 mainly because a few members own them. Any car from a Kia to a Bentley can have its fair share of problems. I don't think OP was saying the 5.0 was immune from it's own issues it may or may not have. He just wanted input before making the plunge. Do I think the 5.0 is a great car? Absolutely. Would I ever own one? For my reasons, no. I think it's a much better idea to ask this community because many members have/do own(ed) both.


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