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CodeDrk 05-13-2014 08:28 PM

Help me out gtm motorsport is playing me
 
Im a US Soldier residing in Ft Leonard Wood, MO.
I was told to get my TT-KIT back in April ship to IL. (Where my family live)

things has change and that I could be ACTIVATED for oversea.

I have ask for a refund roughly 2 week before May.

Sam at GTM told me no problem he will have it done before I start special training on May 6.

Today 5/13/14

He told me I will have to do everything my self and do all the claims by my self through my card issuer. As of anything pass 45 days it would be hard to do a CLAIM.

As I work and go to special training sometime for very long hours I stay perfectly calm about this.

so my card issuer told me they can open up a case and they will see what they can do but at this point GTM Motorsport DO NOT PICK UP THEIR PHONE CALLS/ NOR WILL THEY REPLY TO MY EMAIL.

Funny how they call me 5 min after email. but they cant pick my number up.

I will be leaving soon and possibly wont be able to contact GTM.
so technically they can say the SHIP my ITEM but I wont be there to RECEIVE IT.

or THEY can just KEEP my MONEY.

my last OPTION IS TO CALL MILITARY SERVICE (JAG) / Civilian Lawyer to handle this in court.


I was wondering if you guys can help me out who ever can see and READ THIS.

IM NOT ASKING FOR SPECIAL TREATMENT BECAUSE IM IN THE SERVICE OR ANYTHING IM JUST TRYING TO GET MY MONEY BACK BEFORE I LEAVE.

TO ADMIN/AK

How do companies like this stay on a website?

they are screwing me over and over and playing with my money and time..

I serve my country and im willing to do what ever I can to help people..

why im getting screwed over..

know I called in earlier and it seems like SAM IS DODGING MY PHONE CALL.

I CALL FOR WHO EVER IS THE NEXT REPRESENTIVE AND THEY TOLD ME IT SAM.. THEY TOLD ME SAM IS THE "OWNER,OPERATOR,MANAGER,and SUPERVISOR" and that NO ONE CAN HELP ME BUT HIM.

HELP US OUT... HELP US GET OUR MONEY BACK!!!!

equalme 05-13-2014 08:58 PM

Oh gtm.... Sorry to hear about that op!

Masterbeatty 05-13-2014 09:14 PM

Talk to the legal office, they give free legal advice.

jlo370z 05-13-2014 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CodeDrk (Post 2817591)

my last OPTION IS TO CALL MILITARY SERVICE (JAG) / Civilian Lawyer to handle this in court.

Just do this anyhow

Sorry bro, this sucks for you and everyone else involved.

Zoren 370 05-13-2014 10:26 PM

Sorry to hear that....hope you get your money back


Otherwise its time to call Rambo!

37zeroZ 05-13-2014 10:32 PM

It's hard to comprehend the situation because it's only one side of the story.

Didn't you state that the item is to be shipped to where your family lives? Now you want a refund because you won't be there to receive it? Could be buyer's remorse.

If GTM really wanted to refund you, they could easily send you a refund with going through your credit card company since they have already been paid.

GaleForce 05-13-2014 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 37zeroZ (Post 2817711)
It's hard to comprehend the situation because it's only one side of the story.

Didn't you state that the item is to be shipped to where your family lives? Now you want a refund because you won't be there to receive it? Could be buyer's remorse.

If GTM really wanted to refund you, they could easily send you a refund with going through your credit card company since they have already been paid.

You must be new here.

Welcome to the forum. :tiphat:

37zeroZ 05-13-2014 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2817721)
You must be new here.

Welcome to the forum. :tiphat:

Meant to say "without" instead of "with". Does that work? Or is there something else I don't know?

GaleForce 05-13-2014 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 37zeroZ (Post 2817736)
Meant to say "without" instead of "with". Does that work? Or is there something else I don't know?

You're right to think it would/should be easy as pie for the OP to get a refund, but...

Have you read this thread? http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ticipants.html

37zeroZ 05-13-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2817737)
You're right to think it would/should be easy as pie for the OP to get a refund, but...

Have you read this thread? http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ticipants.html

:shakes head: Fair enough. I don't have the time to read all the threads/posts....so I will :gtfo2:

Felix 808 05-14-2014 12:03 AM

First off, thank you for your service http://www.naxja.org/forum/images/smilies/patriot.gif

I would contact your credit card company ASAP as well as JAG. Credit card company would probably be the quickest & best result provided you are in good standing & the card company is worth their salt. Expalin to them what Sam at GTM told you as well as your situation of shipping out. In short GTM has basically refused your refund & not provided any product. Going thru the court system sucks & even if you win, getting payment can still be a chore.

I wish you the best in getting a solid resolution to this mess. I use to promote their oil pan , which is a great product, but the way they have done people is just wrong so count me in on the GTM http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/smilies/piss.gif crowd

Stay safe out there :tiphat:

DavidZ370 05-14-2014 12:09 AM

bunch of frauding scums taking hard earned money from customers.

DavidZ370 05-14-2014 12:14 AM

One of these days us socal guys should take a trip to GTM

jaedub 05-14-2014 02:54 AM

File a class action lawsuit. This is Murica damnit!

onzedge 05-14-2014 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Felix 808 (Post 2817764)
First off, thank you for your service http://www.naxja.org/forum/images/smilies/patriot.gif

I would contact your credit card company ASAP as well as JAG. Credit card company would probably be the quickest & best result provided you are in good standing & the card company is worth their salt. Expalin to them what Sam at GTM told you as well as your situation of shipping out. In short GTM has basically refused your refund & not provided any product. Going thru the court system sucks & even if you win, getting payment can still be a chore.

I wish you the best in getting a solid resolution to this mess. I use to promote their oil pan , which is a great product, but the way they have done people is just wrong so count me in on the GTM http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/smilies/piss.gif crowd

Stay safe out there :tiphat:

:iagree:

Chuck33079 05-14-2014 07:53 AM

OP, the issue seems to be that GTM is refunding people as new orders come in and they get cash to work with. If I were a betting man, I'd say that it's not "GTM won't refund my money", it's "GTM can't refund my money". I'll go one step further and speculate that they're flirting dangerously close to a bankruptcy filing.

onzedge 05-14-2014 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2817988)
OP, the issue seems to be that GTM is refunding people as new orders come in and they get cash to work with. If I were a betting man, I'd say that it's not "GTM won't refund my money", it's "GTM can't refund my money". I'll go one step further and speculate that they're flirting dangerously close to a bankruptcy filing.

This is the same strategy as employed in a Ponzi scheme.

Infidel 05-14-2014 08:31 AM

Must be nice to sh*t out money when ever you feel like it like the federal reserve.

Hey Yellen...shoot me a check with some zeros please. :tup:

csnow 05-14-2014 09:29 AM

I get really bent out of shape when dumb Privates use the "I serve my country" excuse when they make a financial mistake. I've got "special training coming up" and "I'm deploying" are just a cry for help because you are in over your head.

Chuck33079 05-14-2014 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by csnow (Post 2818093)
I get really bent out of shape when dumb Privates use the "I serve my country" excuse when they make a financial mistake. I've got "special training coming up" and "I'm deploying" are just a cry for help because you are in over your head.

What part of that is called for in any way? His experience with GTM is fairly common these days. I fail to see where you got any of your post out of his initial post. Is he not entitled to a refund?

onzedge 05-14-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2818100)
What part of that is called for in any way? His experience with GTM is fairly common these days. I fail to see where you got any of your post out of his initial post. Is he not entitled to a refund?

:iagree:

Roddy1 05-14-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by csnow (Post 2818093)
I get really bent out of shape when dumb Privates use the "I serve my country" excuse when they make a financial mistake. I've got "special training coming up" and "I'm deploying" are just a cry for help because you are in over your head.

You're an ***!

GTM is a sham. This isnt a $300 intake. This is thousands of dollars and GTM cannot deliver on their product.

OP is not the only person dealing with this supplier who should be banned from this forums advertising IMO.

csnow 05-14-2014 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roddy1 (Post 2818134)
You're an ***!

GTM is a sham. This isnt a $300 intake. This is thousands of dollars and GTM cannot deliver on their product.

OP is not the only person dealing with this supplier who should be banned from this forums advertising IMO.

My post quoted the op's classic dumb Army Private wording aka excuses. In no way, shape or form did I justify GTM and their shenanigans. Furthermore, op could be tangled up financially with any other business and my response would still be the same.

Masterbeatty 05-14-2014 10:32 AM

When you do get a hold of GTM call out their bull scat on whats on there web site.

Why GTM Motorspots?

:bowrofl::roflpuke2::bowrofl::roflpuke2::bowrofl:

Chuck33079 05-14-2014 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csnow (Post 2818194)
My post quoted the op's classic dumb Army Private wording aka excuses. In no way, shape or form did I justify GTM and their shenanigans. Furthermore, op could be tangled up financially with any other business and my response would still be the same.

You're still a colossal douchebag. Where was the part that says he's having financial problems? He wants his money back from a company that missed the ship date and has historically had problems getting kits out the door. At least you came back in here and doubled down on your flagrant stupidity so we know what kind of individual you really are. On behalf of the people who are overseas getting shot at on behalf of the civilains here, go **** yourself with a sharp stick.

CodeDrk 05-14-2014 10:36 AM

First of all I'm not a private so fix your self. I been patient for a long time. If you can't give no help then please be quiet.

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Malm 05-14-2014 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2818199)
You're still a colossal douchebag. Where was the part that says he's having financial problems? He wants his money back from a company that missed the ship date and has historically had problems getting kits out the door. At least you came back in here and doubled down on your flagrant stupidity so we know what kind of individual you really are. On behalf of the people who are overseas getting shot at on behalf of the civilains here, go **** yourself with a sharp stick.

Watch out, this kid you are yelling at lives at "your moms house". Besides, he is trolling !

DEpointfive0 05-14-2014 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2818199)
You're still a colossal douchebag. Where was the part that says he's having financial problems? He wants his money back from a company that missed the ship date and has historically had problems getting kits out the door. At least you came back in here and doubled down on your flagrant stupidity so we know what kind of individual you really are. On behalf of the people who are overseas getting shot at on behalf of the civilains here, go **** yourself with a sharp stick.

Amen

csnow 05-14-2014 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CodeDrk (Post 2818204)
First of all I'm not a private so fix your self. I been patient for a long time. If you can't give no help then please be quiet.

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Lol, but you write exactly how Privates/some Specialists speak. You know exactly what I am talking about because I quoted it for you. If you are an O I suggest you seek professional development counseling from a Senior NCO asap. If you are a NCO then shame on your direct line for sending you to the board.

You have displayed classic excuses for us all to read that have been used many times in all kinds of situations by young Soldiers. I've so seen this too many times and it never changes. If you want to resolve it the right way then go through you Chain of Command. If your CO gets involved and he/she can't resolve it then go to JAG directly.

CodeDrk 05-14-2014 11:22 AM

Csnow I'm seeing that you are in the military since you know the rank structure and going through chain of command finding help for me. I wanted to get this at its level and to show everyone on the forum including all administration how GTM been screwing with me. I can even show u all the email I have sent with 0 reply to both info and sam emailed account. I'm just wondering why are you such a ******* ****. In my honest opinion of what I think of you already is that you are a buddy fucker. Your that "guy" who everyone hate cause you wanna be the guy who have the last word and be the center of attention. If u were a brother in the arm and if I was doing something wrong u would of pm me and lmk privately and gave me advice. And shame on you if you are a nco. And your right I'm a specialists atm e4 and I will attend wlc for my e5 as Sargent in a few month. And if your not a enlistment or nco you must be a O1-O3 with a **** up your ***. Quit power tripping. Oh and btw I display my case as it is. I'm not lieing about anything.

Thank you everyone for your moral support hopefully gtm will read all of this and decide to refund me then to give me bs and on top of that I hope he refund everyone else who have been waiting.

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DEpointfive0 05-14-2014 11:26 AM

I motion to ban csnow. I've got $20 in to revoke his membership and to ban him. Anyone else with me?

CodeDrk 05-14-2014 11:37 AM

I agree also. I haven't done anything wrong and all I ask is for everyone to see what is happening to me and so no one else do get screw over. And no one will do further business with me.

Going back to help my soldiers won't be back on til 5-6pm central time

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big daddy 05-14-2014 11:42 AM

CS now is a freakin idiot!
Has to be one of the dumbest people I've ever seen on here :gtfo2:

First off as a retired MSG with 21 years of honorable service I believe your thoughts or impressions of the military are coming from some one who could not make it into the military or washed out. What ever it is your a dam idiot:tiphat:

To the Soldier that this happened to: Your command and legal cannot do crap for you, I'm sorry.

I spent years as a 1sg and they only get involved in child support or UCMJ actions. They never get involved in purchase disputes

Sorry that you have to deal with this and it's sad when companies screw us hard working people.

Let me know if there is anything I can do

onzedge 05-14-2014 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big daddy (Post 2818328)
CS now is a freakin idiot!
Has to be one of the dumbest people I've ever seen on here :gtfo2:

First off as a retired MSG with 21 years of honorable service I believe your thoughts or impressions of the military are coming from some one who could not make it into the military or washed out. What ever it is your a dam idiot:tiphat:

To the Soldier that this happened to: Your command and legal cannot do crap for you, I'm sorry.

I spent years as a 1sg and they only get involved in child support or UCMJ actions. They never get involved in purchase disputes

Sorry that you have to deal with this and it's sad when companies screw us hard working people.

Let me know if there is anything I can do

:tup:

CodeDrk 05-14-2014 11:51 AM

I appreciate it Big D any advice would u recommend me to make?

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big daddy 05-14-2014 11:58 AM

Yes, send them another email with some of the responses on here. Also send a pm to me and I'll give you my company email. I have a certified service disabled small business and I'll add my two cents in. We work with several major companies and they won't want to deal with that.

We can report them to the BBB and military has a protection/bad businesses to deal with site that I can have them added to

csnow 05-14-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big daddy (Post 2818328)
CS now is a freakin idiot!
Has to be one of the dumbest people I've ever seen on here :gtfo2:

First off as a retired MSG with 21 years of honorable service I believe your thoughts or impressions of the military are coming from some one who could not make it into the military or washed out. What ever it is your a dam idiot:tiphat:

To the Soldier that this happened to: Your command and legal cannot do crap for you, I'm sorry.

I spent years as a 1sg and they only get involved in child support or UCMJ actions. They never get involved in purchase disputes

Sorry that you have to deal with this and it's sad when companies screw us hard working people.

Let me know if there is anything I can do

21 years, I thank you for your service. I am an active duty NCO. :hello:

roy'sz 05-14-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Roddy1 (Post 2818134)
You're an ***!

GTM is a sham. This isnt a $300 intake. This is thousands of dollars and GTM cannot deliver on their product.

OP is not the only person dealing with this supplier who should be banned from this forums advertising IMO.

I agree. Sam at GTM DOES NOT KNOW what he is talking about. I showed upa t his store once and asked him if he could hook my oil cooler up witih the mocal adapter. I myself didn't know much at the time but he wanted to charge me $650 to install 2 oil hoses and the adapter. He wasn't familiar with hose sizes and fittings. As soon as I left I knew after talking to that dipstick for 10 min that he has no actual knowledge of how a car works. The guy FAKES THE FUNK!!! I know a tuner at another FAMOUS location in costa mesa that has heard on more than one occasion that he has called his shop numerous times because he simply cannot tune a car.

DavidZ370 05-14-2014 03:24 PM

and he has premium membership even before i do :shakes head:

Cell 05-14-2014 03:48 PM

I hope you get your money back. I would start any legal action that is needed because GTM has been know to screw people over. You aren't the first and you probably will not be the last.


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