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kenchan 05-13-2014 02:42 PM

i dont care how smoothly or natively one can speak english. no progess = no meaning = worthless.

my2004Z 05-13-2014 02:45 PM

How crazy that I bought my 2009 370Z w/ 7AT and sport package about a week earlier than the OP and haven't had any issues. Pulled steering lock fuse and added some pennies to the rear hatch springs and that's about it. Good luck on your next purchase.

edub370 05-13-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2817089)
Long in the tooth VQ V6? I think they have an excellent engine that by no means is long in the tooth.

20 year old engine platform... there's really not much more they can do to extract power out of it at this point

DEpointfive0 05-13-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2817104)
btw why? amazon india (or whereever) can resolve my issue with one or two emails max.

compared to dumbarse canned message lady at nissan consumer affairs in some southern state takes numerous calls, emails, even fax (you remember those? lol) and still no f-king progress. :mad:

I prefer phone calls.

And yes, Nissan's system KILLS ME. Gotta call, wait for moron 1 to take my info and complaint... Then wait for a day or two to get another call with someone who can actually help.
God forbid you need a refund. 2+ years after I cancelled my warranty for my flooded Maxima, haven't gotten a thing back. Sent them files and info 10 times.

Same with paying them... In Texass I have 30 days for a payment to become late. These fůcks called after 3 days and called like 5 times a day... (This was when my grandfather passed, and I remember sending a $1000 check covering over 2 months.) I fuckíng YELLED at them, I wanted to murder someone there when they kept ******* calling over and over for days in a row. I had 2 years of clean payments too... I have 2 more years with them and I'm paying $2k a month to get out of the fuckíng thing...

Fuckíng HATE NMAC.

lpsscc 05-13-2014 02:46 PM

76 280Z - 185K - no issues
79 280zx - 170k - totaled but no issues previous
85 300zx - 115k - tranny x 2
95 Altima - 125k - no issues
03 Murano - 135k - door actuator
05 Altima SE-R - 95K - oil pressure sensor
08 Armada - 77k - no issues but gas hog
10' 370z 55k - steering lock, axle clicking

11' GMC Acadia Denali - 70k - Radio face plate, Transmission failure, TCS failure, water pump, AC compressor, 2 out of round rims, water link in cabin, navigation display failure, tail light lenses, power seat return, radio amplifier. SOLD that piece of sh!T!!!!

14' Altima...... 4K ;)

Love me some Nissans....

DEpointfive0 05-13-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lpsscc (Post 2817127)
76 280Z - 185K - no issues
79 280zx - 170k - totaled but no issues previous
85 300zx - 115k - tranny x 2
95 Altima - 125k - no issues
03 Murano - 135k - door actuator
05 Altima SE-R - 95K - oil pressure sensor
08 Armada - 77k - no issues but gas hog
10' 370z 55k - steering lock, axle clicking

11' GMC Acadia Denali - 70k - Radio face plate, Transmission failure, TCS failure, water pump, AC compressor, 2 out of round rims, water link in cabin, navigation display failure, tail light lenses, power seat return, radio amplifier. SOLD that piece of sh!T!!!!

14' Altima...... 4K ;)

Love me some Nissans....

I feel that for every one of you, there are 5 of us Toyota guys that can say the same, lol


Also, expectations have changed. Back in the day if shít rattled, you didn't complain really, it was the 70s-80s, but in today's world, I REALLY DO expect perfection or close to it in my $30-40k NISSAN, I wouldn't expect a Sentra to be the same as my FULLY loaded Maxima, but I expect the Maxima to be 100%


Oh, did I mention that it CREAKS... The WHOLE chassis and roof... So sketch...

EDIT: Actually, like our 1994 Volvo when it had 160k miles and was in 2-3 accidents.

lpsscc 05-13-2014 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2817129)
I feel that for every one of you, there are 5 of us Toyota guys that can say the same, lol

Oh I had Toyotas too. I was just covering the Nissans. lol

Never ever had any problems with my Tundra, 4Runner, or Sequoia. Not...one...problem in over 150k miles between them. Yeah, I drive a lot. ;)

I just prefer the Nissan style, gauges etc. Fan I guess.

Oh, and I forgot my 10' Maxima - 50k - no issues. (wife's car)

kenchan 05-13-2014 02:54 PM

i had a problem with a corolla i bought by accident. nothing mechanically wrong, it just sucked.

DEpointfive0 05-13-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lpsscc (Post 2817135)
Oh I had Toyotas too. I was just covering the Nissans. lol

Never ever had any problems with my Tundra, 4Runner, or Sequoia. Not...one...problem in over 150k miles between them. Yeah, I drive a lot. ;)

I just prefer the Nissan style, gauges etc. Fan I guess.

Oh, and I forgot my 10' Maxima - 50k - no issues. (wife's car)

I can see that, that's why I chose the Maxima over a third Avalon and chose the 370Z to compliment my ISF, just made the mistake of buying a second Maxima... Lol

edk370 05-13-2014 03:05 PM

So pretty much all high-performance cars whether they be from Kia all the way up to Bugatti Veyrons are POS's in one way or another, right? They're not "Go Pro proof" I imagine.

There's no such thing as a durable high-performance car. That would be oxymoronic if it was so.

Consumer Reports puts Porsche high on the list for customer satisfaction and reliability. I wonder how true that is? Is it true that "you get what you pay for" with Porsches ($90k+ cars)? I'm talking Porsche 911s...because I'm seriously considering one.

DEpointfive0 05-13-2014 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 2817146)
So pretty much all high-performance cars whether they be from Kia all the way up to Bugatti Veyrons are POS's in one way or another, right? They're not "Go Pro proof" I imagine.

There's no such thing as a durable high-performance car. That would be oxymoronic if it was so.

Consumer Reports puts Porsche high on the list for customer satisfaction and reliability. I wonder how true that is? Is it true that "you get what you pay for" with Porsches ($90k+ cars)? I'm talking Porsche 911s...because I'm seriously considering one.

Looks like you've never heard of a Supra.
And Porch ranks #1 in initial quality, oh, and Porch's number one most reliable aspect, their owners

Juan@Fontana 05-13-2014 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2817044)
You pretty much listed about all the issues I dealt with, but some of them I prevented the first place. For example, I had the fuse pulled since the steering wheel lock was a ticking time bomb. My CSC failed at 16k miles. My transmission was replaced 3 times. The master cylinder failed after getting a new clutch installed. The window regulator was replaced because of a noise issue. The steering rack was replaced due to clicking noise. All in all, it was handled very well at my dealership. It was stressful at times, but they didn't stress me at all. This experience is what kept me from fully letting go of my car.

Yup I agree, it could always have been much much worse. then again maybe I'm just loyal to the cars I love.

I had 6 transmissions replaced (all due to csc failure) 2 clutch masters replaced, heater core replaced driver side window regulator, and a differential replaced all under warranty. (this was before i worked for Nissan)

-Juan

speedfreek 05-13-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2817151)
Looks like you've never heard of a Supra.
And Porch ranks #1 in initial quality, oh, and Porch's number one most reliable aspect, their owners


Except for Porsche's latest GT3 incident. I guess at least they are owning up to it.

edk370 05-13-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2817151)
Looks like you've never heard of a Supra.
And Porch ranks #1 in initial quality, oh, and Porch's number one most reliable aspect, their owners

I hear that MKIV TT's aren't as "boost proof" as many say. I hear its limit is 550 hp...after that you're asking for disaster. That iron block, 3.0 I-6 starts to wobble after 600hp I hear.

jpkirk 05-13-2014 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 2817146)
So pretty much all high-performance cars whether they be from Kia all the way up to Bugatti Veyrons are POS's in one way or another, right? They're not "Go Pro proof" I imagine.

There's no such thing as a durable high-performance car. That would be oxymoronic if it was so.

Consumer Reports puts Porsche high on the list for customer satisfaction and reliability. I wonder how true that is? Is it true that "you get what you pay for" with Porsches ($90k+ cars)? I'm talking Porsche 911s...because I'm seriously considering one.

I don't drive my wife's Altima like I drive the Z. Somehow just a little anti-climactic you know. So if you drive more aggressively it is only natural that rattles and squeeks will pop up. Aggressivly driven Porsche, Beemer, or Merc (yea I heard Toyota mentioned as well) will all develop rattles and squeeks over time.

DEpointfive0 05-13-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 2817171)
I hear that MKIV TT's aren't as "boost proof" as many say. I hear its limit is 550 hp...after that you're asking for disaster. That iron block, 3.0 I-6 starts to wobble after 600hp I hear.

Still reliable sports car, and I know MANY supra owners on stock drivetrain a pushing 700+WHP without issue. The only close friend I know that sold his Supra, sold it because he was getting 7MPG average, LOL

DEpointfive0 05-13-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan@Fontana (Post 2817160)
Yup I agree, it could always have been much much worse. then again maybe I'm just loyal to the cars I love.

I had 6 transmissions replaced (all due to csc failure) 2 clutch masters replaced, heater core replaced driver side window regulator, and a differential replaced all under warranty. (this was before i worked for Nissan)

-Juan

HOOOOOLLLLYYYYYYYY SHÍT Juan!!! That's a LOT of stuff. Tranny 6 times?!?!?! I would've lemmoned it

Juan@Fontana 05-13-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2817239)
HOOOOOLLLLYYYYYYYY SHÍT Juan!!! That's a LOT of stuff. Tranny 6 times?!?!?! I would've lemmoned it

drifting on 295's? haha no i consider myself lucky Nissan said they'd cover it. I am perfectly content with the way Nissan handled the situation.

kenchan 05-13-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan@Fontana (Post 2817248)
drifting on 295's? haha no i consider myself lucky Nissan said they'd cover it. I am perfectly content with the way Nissan handled the situation.

so you're the one f-king up nissan consumer affairs canned scripts! :mad:

UNKNOWN_370 05-13-2014 04:46 PM

This thread is garbage...
I was waiting to read something outstandingly wrong. These problems you get anywhere. Premium brands only get worse. IE, BMW.

MacCool 05-13-2014 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scribe (Post 2816991)
That's great that you've had excellent experience with your Nissans. We are all informed by our experiences, and I hope yours continue to be great.

Exactly. I feel bad that you've had a bad experience. Our experience sets the tone for our opinions. I'm sorry that yours has been negative. I hope things go better with your next vehicle. Car problems can be extremely irritating.

kenchan 05-13-2014 04:47 PM

so is scribe now getting a 2014 370Z then?

kenchan 05-13-2014 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2817275)
This thread is garbage...
I was waiting to read something outstandingly wrong. These problems you get anywhere. Premium brands only get worse. IE, BMW.

well i did post about a corolla..

b15 05-13-2014 05:11 PM

No car is perfect, there will always be a displeased customer somewhere along the lines, no matter the price point. It's a matter of how the company handles it. The Z is my third Nissan in 12 years, and my ownership experience has been average. All three of mine have only had minor issues that were quickly remedied with no further problems. I continue to buy Nissan because I enjoy the way they feel/drive/look, however I'm not loyal to any one brand. I am fairly loyal to Japanese cars in general though as they've been good to me.

OP, I'm sorry to hear about your ownership experience but don't fault you for looking elsewhere. It's the same reason why I will not own another GM in the foreseeable future. Good luck with your future vehicles!

edk370 05-13-2014 05:27 PM

After seeing a 1000 hp, 850 lb/ft torque AMS built GT-R...pull 10s @ 149 mph...on a stock block...that's bullet proof and impressive...and also $60,000+ worth of work :)

GT-R motor in a 370 anyone? I know know, do search function. Anyone know if the block and heads in the GT-R are same as the 370's, or are they totally different? iron cast, aluminum???

Tazicon 05-13-2014 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wanker (Post 2816978)
Sorry for your frustration. If you want to feel better read the BMW and Porsche forums. There are issues with all high performance cars, but at least you didn't spend over $75,000 for your car.

Having a car in that range and one higher I can tell you things happen with all makes of cars. Paying a lot for a car doesn't make it better...........just makes it hurt more when things do go wrong............

I have had good experiences with Nissan/Datsun over the years but I was dissapointed in the oil temps and the brakes on the Z. My G37 was a great car with no issues at all during my ownership. That being said I normally don't own anything other than my Jeeps for more than a couple of years. That comment about Infiniti having such a low intitial customer satisfaction rating I would love to see as the last I saw it was very high when I bought my 2011 IPL. I knew what I was getting into with the Z, and it didn't take long till I realized that even off the track an oil cooler was needed. Having the dealership try to charge me $125 a wheel to turn my rotors at less than 18K miles was a pisser since the brakes are a common problem. Took me a couple of hours and less than $50 to have the rotors turned. Anyway I loved the cars and will probably own another Nissan down the road. I owned my first Datsun in the early 80's and have owned a few Datsun/Nissans over the years.

Juan@Fontana 05-13-2014 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2817256)
so you're the one f-king up nissan consumer affairs canned scripts! :mad:

haha we where all young an naive once, I was 19-20 years old at the time.

slam1918 05-13-2014 06:26 PM

be thankful you didn't grow up in the 60's. I grew up in the automobile business pre "foreign" cars, pre recalls. I remember my dad was a service manager at an Olds dealer and there was an intermittent clunking sound from the rear of a 68' Olds 98 (a luxury car back then.) After numerous trips to the service dept. one of the mechanics took out the rear seat and found a ring & pinion set laying loose with a note attached from the line worker saying "I hope this f'd up your day". I got a million similar stories. The sad thing I think is all auto manufacturers have achieved the same level of mediocrity in that the US has gotten a little better while Asia & Europe has slipped. we had an A8 where the ww blades were $80. each but you got a free loaner car and treated like royalty when you went in for service. My wife currently drives a VW Toureg diesel. It's been to the dealer with warning lights flashing for low blue additive & stupid stuff like the random door locks not working....it's a car sometimes ya get lucky ...sometimes ya don't...look how often you see a Bentley or a Porsche on the back of a flatbed.

kenchan 05-13-2014 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by slam1918 (Post 2817375)
be thankful you didn't grow up in the 60's. I grew up in the automobile business pre "foreign" cars, pre recalls. I remember my dad was a service manager at an Olds dealer and there was an intermittent clunking sound from the rear of a 68' Olds 98 (a luxury car back then.) After numerous trips to the service dept. one of the mechanics took out the rear seat and found a ring & pinion set laying loose with a note attached from the line worker saying "I hope this f'd up your day". I got a million similar stories. The sad thing I think is all auto manufacturers have achieved the same level of mediocrity in that the US has gotten a little better while Asia & Europe has slipped. we had an A8 where the ww blades were $80. each but you got a free loaner car and treated like royalty when you went in for service. My wife currently drives a VW Toureg diesel. It's been to the dealer with warning lights flashing for low blue additive & stupid stuff like the random door locks not working....it's a car sometimes ya get lucky ...sometimes ya don't...look how often you see a Bentley or a Porsche on the back of a flatbed.

:icon08:

Tazicon 05-13-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by slam1918 (Post 2817375)
be thankful you didn't grow up in the 60's. I grew up in the automobile business pre "foreign" cars, pre recalls. I remember my dad was a service manager at an Olds dealer and there was an intermittent clunking sound from the rear of a 68' Olds 98 (a luxury car back then.) After numerous trips to the service dept. one of the mechanics took out the rear seat and found a ring & pinion set laying loose with a note attached from the line worker saying "I hope this f'd up your day". I got a million similar stories. The sad thing I think is all auto manufacturers have achieved the same level of mediocrity in that the US has gotten a little better while Asia & Europe has slipped. we had an A8 where the ww blades were $80. each but you got a free loaner car and treated like royalty when you went in for service. My wife currently drives a VW Toureg diesel. It's been to the dealer with warning lights flashing for low blue additive & stupid stuff like the random door locks not working....it's a car sometimes ya get lucky ...sometimes ya don't...look how often you see a Bentley or a Porsche on the back of a flatbed.

Saw mine on a flat bed just the other day.....................

equalme 05-13-2014 07:36 PM

There are a lot of things about the 370 that I dislike but they are all minor in my experience. I do hate how clunky the transmission is...I hate it when when the light turns green and I have to fuss with getting it into 1st gear...you'd think they would've fixed it by now. CSC is a given but easy fix. Other than that the 370 has been awesome.

kenchan 05-13-2014 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by equalme (Post 2817475)
There are a lot of things about the 370 that I dislike but they are all minor in my experience. I do hate how clunky the transmission is...I hate it when when the light turns green and I have to fuss with getting it into 1st gear...you'd think they would've fixed it by now. CSC is a given but easy fix. Other than that the 370 has been awesome.

is this your first MT?

i put the car into 1st gear while rolling slightly to a stop before i put it in neutral while i wait for the light. i do this on all my MT cars... no issue getting the gear back into 1st.

cossie1600 05-13-2014 07:40 PM

I agree with the op, getting nissan to pay is a nightmare

equalme 05-13-2014 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2817477)
is this your first MT?

i put the car into 1st gear while rolling slightly to a stop before i put it in neutral while i wait for the light. i do this on all my MT cars... no issue getting the gear back into 1st.

Nope. My past cars were mainly all manual: Civic, Prelude, and STi.

I remember I'd wiggle it around in neutral but never had to actually pre-shift into gear. What you do is what I'm doing now with the Z.

Tick64 05-13-2014 09:50 PM

^^ I don't think that's normal shifting for a Z. I'd have to agree with Kenchan... no problems here getting the gear back into 1st.

DIGItonium 05-14-2014 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2817052)
digi- wow... you will definitely enjoy LG appliances. :ugh:

LG = large garbage.

Haha don't jinx my washer and dryer lol. The washer does make some weird noises sometimes.

Scribe 05-14-2014 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2817275)
This thread is garbage...
I was waiting to read something outstandingly wrong. These problems you get anywhere. Premium brands only get worse. IE, BMW.

I'm sorry you feel like you wasted your time reading my post. However, those replying with things like, "I've never had problems with my Nissan." or "You will have problems with xyz (or any) brand." or "A lot of people have had these problems." or "I got those covered under warranty." missed my point completely.

The point isn't that I've had problems, it's that Nissan responded poorly. As I said in my original post, I have no issues with having a mass produced, and early production car that has some issues. It's the consistently poor response (or none in the case of the steering wheel lock) from Nissan.

As I also said in my original post and subsequent posts, everyone's experience will inform them differently and I hope that you have had a better experience. I've owned lots of cars of various makes with various problems. It's the way that issues are handled that matters to me. The Z is a fairly good car, but it's let down by a company that won't stand behind it.

MacCool 05-14-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Scribe (Post 2817977)
I'm sorry you feel like you wasted your time reading my post. However, those replying with things like, "I've never had problems with my Nissan." or "You will have problems with xyz (or any) brand." or "A lot of people have had these problems." or "I got those covered under warranty." missed my point completely.

The point isn't that I've had problems, it's that Nissan responded poorly. As I said in my original post, I have no issues with having a mass produced, and early production car that has some issues. It's the consistently poor response (or none in the case of the steering wheel lock) from Nissan.

As I also said in my original post and subsequent posts, everyone's experience will inform them differently and I hope that you have had a better experience. I've owned lots of cars of various makes with various problems. It's the way that issues are handled that matters to me. The Z is a fairly good car, but it's let down by a company that won't stand behind it.

I understand the feeling. I wonder if the poor response was a Nissan thing, a dealer thing, or a problem with one particular regional service rep. My wife's last Murano had a problem with a TPMS sensor. The dealer blew her off twice so I called the regional rep as listed in the manual. That got action, and damn quick. Dealer called back promptly, scheduled an appointment and replaced the sensor. I got like two phone calls and a followup letter from Nissan after that with them wanting to make sure the issue was resolved.

kenchan 05-14-2014 09:00 AM

yah, like i mentioned many tires on this thread, nissan consumer affairs = dumbarse canned message lady with poor script.

maybe next time i should just ask her wat she likes to eat.
do you like ______ ...?

b15 05-14-2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2818051)
yah, like i mentioned many tires on this thread, nissan consumer affairs = dumbarse canned message lady with poor script.

maybe next time i should just ask her wat she likes to eat.
do you like ______ ...?

I don't think that's a pass for Nissan. Canned or not, these are the people they chose to work the front lines to represent the company.


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