370Z get sport package or no sport package?
 

Hey guys, I'm sort of in a dilemma here...I need you guy's help and your input in regards to sport package...

Okay so most of the items that come with the sport package, I do not even need...

Synchro Rev match = I could careless about that...I do my own heel toe!

19 inch wheels and tires = I'm planning to upgrade to aftermarket

Front & Rear spoilers = I could care less about looks, front spoiler looks ugly as hell anyway

VLSD Rear Diff = this is something I WANT...I heard LSD is always ftw...now my question is, does the stock Nissan one blow anyway? I don't plan to track the car...just drive aggressively on the streets and occasionally canyon run...will there be a big difference between open diff versus sport package VLSD for my driving conditions?

Akebono BBK = This is also something I want too...but to be honest with you guys, I want to get 17 inch super lightweight wheels...the sport brakes will not clear 17s...but I know for sure the base model brakes will fit 17 inch just fine...they are 12.6 diameter rotors, which I believe are carry overs from 06-08 350Zs/G35's (correct me if I am wrong)....For those who own the non sport brakes, do they perform really well already? I would guess they do since 06-08 350Z's non brembos stopped very well already

So to wrap this all up, I want to spend my $3k on other items instead of buying Nissan's sport package....my main concerns are the VLSD and also the brakes...I'm just hoping the brakes are up to par with the huge akebonos as long as I slap on some wide/sticky street tires...and will I feel a huge difference with VLSD for street driving?

Thanks, any input is greatly appreciated!

Synchro Revmatch?

oops I forgot to mention that...but I'm not interested in that either...I do my own heel toe...haha

My ultimate goal is to run 17 inch enkei rpf1...since they SHOULD fit the base model brakes...from looking at the specs of the base model brakes, they look like carry overs from previous years and the current G37 sedan/coupe still uses these brakes (non sport model that is)

For those of you who owned 06+ 350Z and G35/G37s with non track/sport package....what offset enkei RPF1 will fit over the calipers? I am thinking of 17x9 ET35 or ET22 with 255/40/17 front tires....and the rears 17x10 ET18 285/35/17

Do you think that will be good for 370Z?

the sport comes with a viscous LSD, which loses efficiency quickly the more it heats up. DDM's failed at the track in a 370, theyre just garbage. A gear/clutch type is the LSD you want. Other than that, its not a bad setup.

I love the Synrcho rev match I think its amazing

so should I just skip the sport package and go base model and get aftermarket LSD?

will I benefit alot from an LSD for aggressive street driving?

i shoudlnt really be commenting due to my race knowledge = pure garbage BUT, from what i read on others on this forum, the LSD it comes with is great for street but not so great for the track. At least thats what i remember.

Street driving no, heavy track use, yes. A Quaife/Torsen will serve you well. Dont skip the SP solely because of that. Keep in mind, if you do get the sport and want an aftermarket spoiler, there may be a few residual drill holes that need to be filled. If you have the money, the SP is a great deal, but its not going to be everybodys cup of tea.

SPORT ftw

[QUOTE]Front & Rear spoilers = I could care less about looks, front spoiler looks ugly as hell anyway/QUOTE]
:wtf:

Don't know how to respond to this post lol. When I read it, it kinda felt like you're asking. "Hi, I want to buy a high definition, big screen LCD tv...but I don't like big screens LCD's with high definition". Why buy the sport package if you don't need and like any of it? You've pretty much blasted everything the sport package offers. Looks like a decision to me.

[QUOTE=Triple's;194434]whats wrong with that? ive never been a fan of spoilers either, everyone has their own tastes, to me, im reminded of riced out Civics with fart cans putting about.

The tiny spoiler on the sport reminds u of a riced out civic?

:ugh2:

:iagree:

[QUOTE=Red370;194440]Ummmm......They're there for a reason. Hint: It's NOT looks.

It sound like u not very serious about sport drivin. U a red light racer.
So u can do a base no sport. Get hawk sport brake pads. Eibach springs to drop your car an inch.
Then rim.your tires to your ideal spec. U will be good.
But ur kind usually causes accidents. So please. Just be smart bout the way u drive.
U can street race but hit up the street racin spots. Don't wild out in a residential.

no, but as small as it is, has limited or zero functionality, added weight for aesthetic charm, which doesnt appeal to me.

[QUOTE=Modshack;194506]some have functionality, small ones like on this car, will provide limited downforce, which adds to the looks only factor. And ironing board totin' civics, or any FWD car for that matter, are the embodiment of rice, being that rear spoilers are designed to place downforce on the rear of the car. So yes, some serve a purpose, in this case, they do not. Onto other things, lets keep in the spirit of the OP and quit bickering about spoilers huh? Be happy with YOUR car, im happy with mine. :tup:

I don't have time to read through these posts because the answer is so obvious, the sport package is totally worth the money. Just try and buy similar rims alone and that will cost you as much as the entire package.

Well I just need an input from the non sports package brakes...and also the open diff....because those two items I really want....but of course are they even worth it for my driving conditions?

I agree, probably the best deal for any package, for any car.

Apparently Nissan thought otherwise (improvements in coefficient of Drag and lift reduction have been discussed by the enthusiast press).....But I digress. You're welcome to your opinion.

Only in america! we agree to disagree!

the drag coefficient is the same as the 350 sans spoiler. I'll post the chart when I find it. Ah, here it is. http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/automo...ag_coefficient

Given what you're after, skip the sport package. most of what you're looking to do is aftermarket the items that are included in the sport package, so why bother?

I bought the sport package because of the wheels and spoilers, everything else is bonus.

:iagree:

It seems like the only things you want on the sport package are the brakes and the LSD. both of which can be added from the after market with better results. i would say get the base and upgrade later, 3 grand will get most of what you want (without install). But one thing to consider is that driving is a lot like sex, every man thinks he is the best at it - Jeremy Clarkson. No matter how good you think you are at heal toeing the SRM will be better unless you are on a professional level ( even if you track all the time).

If you don't want warranty hassles, buy the sport package rather than go aftermarket. Changing the diff won't go over well with most Nissan dealers, so you better discuss this first before you swap it.

A limited slip diff can be helpful in slick conditions, especially snow. Why you would want to upgrade the diff if you're purely street driving doesn't really make sense to me.

I agree with everyone supporting the sport package purchase. All of the elements are an incredible deal. The base wheels look like sheisse, SRM is a wonderful feature, the spoiler DOES drop the drag coefficient, and the larger brakes are sweet.

By all means, save $2000 if you like. But you'll get the value of the sport package right back in resale alone down the road.

btw, the fastest 1/4 mile reported on this site is a 13.1, and it was recorded by a base non sport auto, so it seems the base is the quickest of the two, guessing the smaller rims and lighter weight. Check the track section.:tup:

and damn, a 13.1 in an auto, talk about a kick in the stones. Will there be a 13.1 6MT?

Ready, Fire, Aim!

I guess you missed this entry just below the one you cite:

0.30 Nissan 370Z Coupe
(0.29 with sport package) 2009

But you're still welcome to your "opinion"...

nope, didnt miss it. BTW .01 difference? really?:rolleyes:

3.5% ...... :hello:

Many manufacturers go to great lenghts for that kind of improvement...

I'm done.

i think for people that are serious about modding cars will opt for the base without the sport package.

sport package is for people like me who just want the car as a touring car.
it's a convenient package that's a step up from base, but no where near race car
level performance or capacity. hell if i was building a race car i would get the base
with nothing on it and just rebuild the car.

But you can't deny the fact that the Sports Pkg is a major bang for buck for MOST people out there.

roger that

well heres the thing...I would LIKE the sport brakes and also the LSD...however my ultimate goal is to run 17s and the sports brakes will not accommodate 17 inch wheels....why do I want to run 17s? cheaper tires, cheaper rims, much more selection of lightweight wheels...etc etc....I do agree they will look ugly *** hell compared to 19s or 20s...but honestly, i could careless how my car looks...as long as I'm smoking on a straight line...and handling like rails on the twisties...i'm okay with 17s....

now with the VLSD...this is going to be the problem...I see that most aftermarket clutch type LSDs are north of 1k...pretty damn expensive....I was just wondering if the stock open diff would be okay for me...like I said earlier, I do not plan to track or auto-x....none of that time attack BS...just aggressive street driving....

Dude (and I don't use that term often)

You need to focus. You have no need for the sport brakes if you just plan on driving aggressively on the street. Yes they are nice, but the standard brakes have similar stopping distances and if you burn them up on the street, you are driving like a maniac.

If you plan on doing a lot of oversteer psycho maniac driving on the street, get the VLSD. I have no idea how much experience you have driving a car sideways, but with an open diff, if you have never experienced it, you may well end up getting into a curb or worse... Simply because instead of the car snapping back like you would expect, one wheel will just keep spinning and send you somewhere you don't want to be.

If you don't like the Syncro rev match, why are you even contemplating this. The brakes are going to do you very little good solely on the street, and you want to run smaller tires anyway.

The sports pack is such a great deal, but if you are going to upgrade the car for the track, better parts are availale. If you just want an even more competent and good lucking street machine, it's really hard to beat.

haha, no need to call me dude and say I need to focus...this is an open discussion forum and I simply wanted to get some answers to my question

by the way, I never contemplated synchro rev match....I said I do my own heel toe downshifting...so where did you come up with this idea?