Here's really the reason why I prefer to keep my 6MT over trading it for a 7AT, I love the fact that I control every factor of my car's shifting in a 6MT...with the 7AT, you press the button, and a computer decides what gear to put it into based on your input, and then it "electronically" selects the gear for you...I like the SMG transmission, where it IS a manual transmission, but you just have a pump clutching & putting it into gear for you...I guess for me, the feeling is different driving when you know that your gear mechanics are the place you want them to be, rather than having a computer holding the gear for you...

I would have been more inclined to get an automatic had it been a sequential-shifter ONLY...meaning, no option to put into full automatic (like the last generation of the Toyota MR2 sequential shifter)...in my head, I feel that if I have a full automatic that it's not meant to be shifted manually, and I would get into the habit of not shifting, and in the long run, I'm just gonna get rid of the car cuz the "fun" factor is gone, just like with my G35c...

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What are you talking about?

7AT changes to the next gear up or the next gear down *when* you tell it to - if you need to "skip" a gear, bump it twice...it does it.

The only exception is if it's in "auto" mode *and* you either flip it to manual, or bump the "-" paddle shifter, it'll drop from 7 to 5 when going down the highway, and I still will sometimes bump it twice to kick it to 4th and haul...if you bump the "+" paddle, it stays in 7th and you can back it down to 6th if you so desire, or pull over the stick at that point and it'll stay in 7th (I need to double check on moving the stick, though I know it will stay in 7th with the paddles and being in auto mode)

As for not being meant to - if that was the case, they wouldn't have made it so.

That reads like the Chuck Norris chin/fist joke.

not knocking the 7AT but to compare the nissan 7AT to "autos" in Ferraris, GTRs, newer porsches, the new EVO, and F1 cars is a stretch as the 7AT is a conventional torque converter auto, where the "autos" of the other cars use a computer actuated clutch or dual clutch as in the PDK(porsche), DSG(audi) and nissan GTR.

not saying the 6MT is better than the 7AT, to me its personal preference. both make great sports cars.

The automatic in the 370Z is a fully automatic engine with sequential shifting to imitate a manual...whereas the SMG and F1s are true manuals with sequential shifting....and this is where the fun is differentiated

don't get me wrong, I'm NOT knocking 7AT vs 6MT...I think the sequential automatic shifter in the 7AT is great, but it's just still not a manual transmission...a manual transmission is true gear and clutch shifting, whereas in the 7AT, it's a computer electronically imitating a manual....it's a great car if you want the occasional controlled driving, but it's still an automatic...

Honestly, how is there a difference from an operational, driver's, point of view between this transmission and an F1 transmission?

Both involve user intervention to make the shift, ie, pressing a paddle (or button), to initiate the shift, in sequence.

Am I saying they perform equally, hell no, but from an "enthusiast" (controlled) driving perspective, how is it really all that different? In fact, I'd say the advantage would go here to the 7AT because you can keep both hands on the wheel and manage your transmission with a flick of a finger. It's not an automatic imitating a manual, it's an automatic imitating a dual-clutch sequential transmission (ie, fast shifts) in fact, you could look at it the other way and say that SRM is the 6MT imitating the 7AT...

Until this car and it's transmission came along, I'd agree with you, automatics were slushy and too focused on being "smooth" in shifting...this car is anything but. Even in "auto" mode, it's still pretty firm between shifts. Move it over to manual mode, and it WILL NOT shift short allowing the driver to kill the engine for forgetting to downshift.

I drive a SST and the new 7 speed AT on the 370Z. I got to say they are dame close!

The shift speed of the 7AT is advertised as 500 milliseconds. This is very very fast for a slush bucket tranny. Most are closer to the 1 second range.

I'm sure pretty soon, there will be a "SRM vs. natural downshift or heel-toe" thread...it's a preference, and I prefer the 6MT after almost trading it in for a 7AT...nothing against the 7AT, it's a great tranny, but I prefer just raw moving parts over an electronic limiter

"over an electronic limiter" - what the heck are you talking about?

Does the 7AT double-clutch on up-shifts? My homeboy in auto-shop class who knows a lot about cars said that double-clutching is a must if you want to go faster.

No, the Z does not have a double-clutch transmission.

Damn...500 milliseconds ain't bad. It would have been better if they shaved that down to half a second, though.

That is half a second.

Wait...so you need a double-clutch transmission to do it? He has a '94 Prelude and he swears it's hella faster when he double-clutches, but I don't think he has changed the transmission. He says he beat his homeboy's dad's Mustang GT if he double-clutches, but he loses if he doesn't. I was just wondering if the 7AT could do the same thing. Is there a button you can press for it or something?

WTF are you talking about? :icon14: :icon14:

500 of something can't be the same as half of something else.

/head explosion

You want it to be half of 500 milliseconds?

post 3 and thats what you came up with? wow very impressive!

I'm still using an iphone app to figure out what half a second is in milliseconds. Give me a minute!

the Z will never have a dual clutch from factory.....

But can you double-clutch it?

Huh???

does 500 not equal 1/2 of 1000 //// 1000 equal half of 2000

P.S. 500 miliseconds = 1/2 second

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double clutching can only be done on a manual trans..... not an auto... and it feels like it makes u go faster but actually it just burns ur clutch faster and basically jus makes ur car jump for a split sec forward...

o man frost was that for me!!?!? did i embaress my self? hahaha

there seems to be some confusion about double clutching and a dual clutch transmission.

double clutch is a driving technique, a way of shifting a manual transmission that involved depressing and releasing the clutch twice when shifting
Double clutch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dual clutch is a type of manual transmission that utilizes two clutches to achieve very smooth shifts compared to regular automated manuals such as the BMW SMG(since replaced with a dual clutch design)
HowStuffWorks "How Dual-clutch Transmissions Work"
Twin-clutch gearbox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No, it was for the thread direction in general. :D

:icon18: o ok man i was like ****, LMAO...

if u want the ulimate trans, get a dual clutch one....... so went u r in gear one ,...gear 2 is already spinning and awaiting to bang in....its like having 2 trans


thats a real dual'er

i think that dude is talking about double clutching the technique.... not the trans one... haha

in an autos thread.....lol


only thing auto has is downshift rev match

:rofl2:This thread has become very funny to read! :rofl2: :drama:

Even I know better than that. LOL :driving:

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7AT or 6MT, it's all good (even though the 7AT has the 6MT beat by a couple of tenths, then again, what it 2/10ths... silly)

2/10ths is everything on the dragstrip...

but that's besides the point we're making right now :icon14:

LOL...the only confusion is on behalf of you guys. :)

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no **** huh lol it is a autos thread..... :roflpuke2:

My 7AT is sooooooo much fun to drive. All I had to do was drive both and was instantly sold after making the comparison. Paddle shifting is much faster than throwing that manual shift. When someone says why did you ever buy a sports car with an automatic trans. I say..........What's good enough for Formula 1 racing is good enough for me.......End of conversation.

^^^^ ok nice fog on ur yellow z by the way