ah, i love that downshift blip. *tap* vrrram. damn, i wanna go drive right now. lol.

^^^Yea no kidding, I find that I'm looking for excuses to get in and drive around.

People that never drove the 7AT don't really kno how good that paddleshift is.
Playin with that clutch might occupy your mind so u feel like u doin somethin.
But that 7at is so good that. You hav more time to focus on serious driving even
Moreso than a stick. Mastering the paddle or autostick isn't easy.
But when u eliminate the 3rd pedal. U have more focus so u can master it quicker.
I luv the 7at. I think it will be a cult classic tranny in the import tuner world.
Can't wait to see tranny tune parts n programs for the 7at!

Can't be too much of a waste if formula1 cars are paddle shifted auto trannies that reach speeds of 220mph.
I don't think there's any serious race car that's manual except for NASCAR n FORMULA D.

Paddleshift isn't your dads auto.
Its a serious piece of sports equipment aimed at serious driving enthusiasts.
Few will admit it. But if you do your research? You will find lots of info on these types of trannies superior capabilities. :)

To that note, just because it has paddle shifters it's not always an automatic. Same with not having a clutch pedal

As far as I know if it has gears that mesh together, and a clutch (even controlled electronically) it's still a "manual". if it shifts itself in any operating mode, it's an automatic.

I LOL'ed at that, thanks man! Totally heading to the dealership ASAP to trade in my 6spd, because after all, that auto is a serious piece of sports equipment! :ugh2:

me likeie my paddles staying in one place.

It doesn't take much to get comfortable with the paddles. When I drive my wife's auto, I'm always looking for the paddles. The only time I would drive the Z in auto is in heavy traffic.

Real man= MANUAL:driving:

dear god,
please some how ends the MT VS AT threads that I keep seeing all over the car sites!!!




oh and I am trying be nice for Christmas btw!

Insecure men maybe.....;)

:iagree: keep it civil it's been that way so far.

This one of the or the most intelligent statement made concerning the auto manual debate.

I luv paddleshift! I think its way more fun!
And fact is. You have more control over the car.

Here is my personal opinion:

I’ve driven manual most of my life and when I got my hands on an EVO X MR SST 40min test drive around the twisty mountains with a mate from Mitsubishi, I can tell you paddles provide exceptional control compared to my manual EVO 7 and 8. The control of the paddles allow you to focus your turning points and speed where as a manual you will loose some time during shifts. Also, the paddles allow me to focus more intently on left foot braking. Those who have mastered this will understand what I mean.

With the above all done and satisfied with how a twin clutch transmission feels, I then went back to my 370Z 7speed auto and gave it another hard run around the same mountain.

The verdict: I can tell you the 7 speed feels just as good and quick as the SST, you will feel a slight jolt when up shifting only at lower rpm (same as the SST) but this is due to the fact that the gears are shifting so fast that it just bangs into place instantly. Nissan have done a great job with this 7 speed even tho it’s not a twin clutch setup, it’s surely close.

In the beginning I felt I had more control with the manual but after seeing my lap times around the mountains I can tell you I’ve made the correct choice in my purchase. The manual on the other hand is more work and you might ‘feel’ like you are in more control. However, once you have mastered the technology behind paddle shifting, when and how to shift right and smoothly, you will feel highly rewarded.

Both transmissions are superior in my opinion and it’s more to do with “preference” as some here have already suggested. Both are also launchable if you do it correctly. Both have rev matching technology when downshifting. It really depends if you want to do more exercise with your left foot or be more relaxed with the 7SP among the same or similar performance. The saying ‘manual is for sports cars and for real drivers’ is no longer relevant in the current era as automatic transmissions are now more aligned with manuals or even better.:tiphat:

We can hope... But there hasn't been an AT or MT thread known to man.. That's stayed civil.. IBT (possible) L ;)

That's because the Auto/Manual guys are totally lazy/insecure! The Manual/Auto is much quicker/smoother! Only an IDIOT would choose the 6M/7AT over the 7AT/6M! :mad:





plus, all the cool guys open their eggs from the little end! :mad:

The auto is.02 faster on avg.
It might just be 1/5 of a second, but that much can win a race. So it matters

Hey you guys forgot u can shift off the floor 2 right? Lol the poor stick is lonely cuz the paddles get all the attention. :)

I'm glad u are amused. :) go take a look inside a formula 1 car. Tell me what u see?
Not a manual? Holy crap. I woulda never thunk it??? Lmao!

Really, you are going to compare the automatic in a 30-40k 370z to a million dollar F1 car. Where they have spent millions of dollars perfecting a auto/manual system.
Geez, I hate this comparison, yes the auto in the Z is good, but it is not a F1. Stop using the comparison that because F1 is using it that it clearly makes the Z auto that much better.


/sigh

Here's a lil factoid bout formula 1 cars
Formula 1 cars have top engineers designing new tech on a constant basis. This is what makes formula1 so expensive. The most successful of this technology is trickled down into production cars. R&d is furthered to make this tech cheaper yet good enough for daily use in production cars. So this auto may be formula 1 of 10 years ago??? But its still tech from the formula 1. So get over it.
U guys act like your crap slap manuals are the same manuals used in racing. Lol.
No, its a stripped crapped cheapened version of a true racing manual. Why not just ask nissan for a car with no tranny and build a true racing manual?

So in the end, its preference. And snyde comments like yours can go both ways.
1 to grow on.

I LUV THE 7AT! :)

/sigh

Do not argue trickle theory to me, in real world it is actually not true.
Yes, what they do will slowly move to other car manufactures, but at the same time Nissan still has to invest its own millions to make their own. Why? Because F1 owners are not going to just pass along the millions of dollars worth of plans to others.

Point of note, I almost bought the 7AT, only reason, I wanted to test SRM with a manual and I really want a double clutch before I jump on the auto/manual.

FYI, Nissan already has a dual clutch tranny....it costs about $20,000. :D

Is that because it has more carbon fiber and titanium???


You would be closer in saying that the gearbox/paddle shifters are inspired by formula one rather than saying its old F1 tech.

I guess I should add, I want the DCT in the Z, would love a GT-R but do not need that car at my age.

True racing manual? You talking about a sequential transmission? I don't think any of us are confusing that with ours...I mean, that's a pretty long shot.

What's a crap slap manual?

Actually I would say that the 6 speed manual in the sport package Z is probably one of the best, SRM is a huge benefit. The only issue so far has been some grinding on probably <1% of cars which Nissan is trading out for free for people.

Of course it is not a sequential transmission, but I do not need that on the street.

OMG, my motorcycle has a sequential transmission - it must be F1/NHRA/NCAA trickle down! OMG!

I think you just went up a notch in my book there bud Bravo! :tup:

eh, i just like the 6spd manual tranny. i dont care how many miliseconds who or what can shift. im a purist.. manual tranny on a sports car is a must.

but thats just me. get whatever floats "your" boat.

Preaching to the choir there buddy :tup:

I'm just curious if he's expecting future cars to have sequential manuals instead of the classic gate configuration...

Attempting thread merge... :rofl2:

well I figured since it was the same goof ball why not :tup:

:tup: Good call-

Nissan Z370 7-speed AT is awsome. BUT 6 speed MT is my choice because its a pain to find AT in 3rd world countries | EU. Nice to know how to drive manual.

True story, a buddy of mine said he could drive MT and wanted to drive my new Z :shakes head: I was about to :gtfo2: and he looked in and asked "why you have 3 pedals?" :icon18: I realized his BMW Z4 was AT with manual shift option.

Are you serious? Formula 1 cars DO not use the same manual we have in our cars... the Manual trans of the modern sports car is as evolved as it will get ... cheap or not... The auto however is not - granted the tq converter on the Z is really good - which is what allows for some of those quick shifts... But to compare either to a sequential manual is just retarded...

I am sure you love your A7 - but dont fool yourself -> any good manual driver will be able to shift MUCH faster than you ever can with the Zs auto... but most pro manual drivers will not be 1/2 as fast as a formula 1 shifter...

Most not all 370z manual drivers will not be able to change as quickly and accurately as the 7AT. I loved my 6 speed in my S15 but I also like my 7AT. They are both fun to drive and have their advantages and disadvantages. If your a good manual shifter, then the 6 speed is for you.

and reading some of the media (i know i know, i'm quoting media, bad idea), the 7AT is actually one of the best transmissions to come out in a while. the shifting is almost effortless for the system, and it responds almost as well as a pro driver shifting through the manual transmission...

I mean there was a G35 which had a plenum spacer (5/16th) + a valve body upgrade which would run LOW 13s if not 12s - All it took was a huge stall RPM for the tq converter - I mean you can make the converter VERY efficient - but a manual is a manual. The only way you get faster than manual is if you have 2 clutches... case and point lol

How come most people here drives manual? What's that mean? Means, it is more fun to drive