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z319 03-06-2014 06:40 PM

base vs sport package
 
If I am going to modify the car, does this mean I am only getting the limited differential since the wheels, suspension and rear spoiler will get upgraded?
Thanks.

Bking 03-06-2014 06:41 PM

What?

TerribleONE 03-06-2014 06:44 PM

You will also get the upgraded brakes, and synchro rev match if 6mt

z319 03-06-2014 06:57 PM

Thinking of Automatic, not quite sure I can deal with 6MT as DD. So basically just limted-slip differential and upgraded brake?

Malm 03-06-2014 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by z319 (Post 2723425)
Thinking of Automatic, not quite sure I can deal with 6MT as DD. So basically just limted-slip differential and upgraded brake?

These are the obvious differences between sport and base

Sport- 19'' Forged Rays (very popular to re-sale) vs 18'' stock wheels (which can look really nice powdercoated)
Nissan BBK (aftermarket stuff is expensive) vs really ugly calipers. Like... you can kind of see it in my avatar there glowing a bright dirty-silver....

Id say unless you are going to mod out everything.. Sport package starts you off nicely..

Other stuff is performance related.. like a sportier suspension and stuff that I personally would never be able to notice unless you told me.

7aT is fun..and if you get in that manual mood.. you have paddle shifters.

DjSquall 03-07-2014 05:18 AM

I got my 7at I'm nonsport because I was planning to mod all that first.

Already got new wheels and coilovers, and will have my quaife LSD next week.

Brakes are next

Zteve 03-07-2014 05:28 AM

get the sport package, you wil be happy you did

H2O_Doc 03-07-2014 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by z319 (Post 2723425)
Thinking of Automatic, not quite sure I can deal with 6MT as DD. So basically just limted-slip differential and upgraded brake?

I've had both the 7AT and 6MT and I will say the clutch and shifting in the 6MT is so easy that it is fine as a daily driver. The 7AT is also about as much fun in an auto as can be had for a reasonable price.

jdsto 03-07-2014 06:08 AM

My 2cents I recently went with a base model it saved some coins for my pocket to make mods. But it's a longer term project, it will take me a few years to get everything where I want it.

2011 Nismo#91 03-07-2014 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by z319 (Post 2723392)
If I am going to modify the car, does this mean I am only getting the limited differential since the wheels, suspension and rear spoiler will get upgraded?
Thanks.

Question is how much are you going to mod your car and how soon? Honestly the brakes system on the Sport will still be good enough even after most of the standard mods. The VSLD is good but not great and will eventually wear out. S-Mode is nice but you can learn and do what it does yourself.

Masterbeatty 03-07-2014 02:35 PM

To me the money I saved on getting the base vs sport I was able to get better than stock. I would replace some parts too, granted it took me 2 yrs to finnally get some of the parts, LSD and coils. But having no bbk and srm is not a big deal since it is mostly a dd and autox car and I know how to properly heel toe. So for me I can give too shitts about the sport package.

kenchan 03-07-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zteve (Post 2723859)
get the sport package, you wil be happy you did

:iagree:

if you're planning to really mod this car into a track machine (aka SPOHN) i think it's worth getting the base and do it all from scratch, but for someone that's going to be motoring around town and spirited weekend drives, the sport package will be more than plenty imho. :tup:

6MT 03-07-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2724760)
:iagree:

if you're planning to really mod this car into a track machine (aka SPOHN) i think it's worth getting the base and do it all from scratch, but for someone that's going to be motoring around town and spirited weekend drives, the sport package will be more than plenty imho. :tup:

:iagree: x2

enkei2k 03-07-2014 02:56 PM

I'd still get the sport just because and mod whatever you want to mod anyway.

resale value is higher if you get the sport package.

kenchan 03-07-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 2724781)
I'd still get the sport just because and mod whatever you want to mod anyway.

resale value is higher if you get the sport package.

yah i think the sport package is really a bargain to kinda finish off the Z in factory form. :tup:

z319 03-07-2014 03:02 PM

Thanks for all the info. I drove nothing but MBZ (all pretty old models) for my past 15, 20 years. I did have a 87 300zx and 911 turbo for very short period of time. It is about time to get some changes before I get too old. Maybe I am too old for this already! I still own 5 mbz at home, my DD is a 94 E420, V8. Very solid car. 560 sec, sel, 500sl and E350 are the others.
Just in the planning stage. really get exciting after seeing some tasteful mod cars here by you guys. Thinking about either red or blue. after market front, rear spoiler and skirt. Exhaust system, intake. that is about it for me, I believe. So sport model should be good? + spacer to push out the rims futher.

6MT 03-07-2014 03:03 PM

:tup:

kenchan 03-07-2014 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by z319 (Post 2724794)
Thanks for all the info. I drove nothing but MBZ (all pretty old models) for my past 15, 20 years. I did have a 87 300zx and 911 turbo for very short period of time. It is about time to get some changes before I get too old. Maybe I am too old for this already! I still own 5 mbz at home, my DD is a 94 E420, V8. Very solid car. 560 sec, sel, 500sl and E350 are the others.
Just in the planning stage. really get exciting after seeing some tasteful mod cars here by you guys. Thinking about either red or blue. after market front, rear spoiler and skirt. Exhaust system, intake. that is about it for me, I believe. So sport model should be good? + spacer to push out the rims futher.

yah, but if you're going for aftermarket front and skirts, the factory wheels might be too weak even with spacers. i recommend getting the sport package, do the mods you want, lower it, and sell the sport wheels. at least you get the bigger brakes, syncro rev match and others.

TerribleONE 03-07-2014 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z319 (Post 2724794)
Thanks for all the info. I drove nothing but MBZ (all pretty old models) for my past 15, 20 years. I did have a 87 300zx and 911 turbo for very short period of time. It is about time to get some changes before I get too old. Maybe I am too old for this already! I still own 5 mbz at home, my DD is a 94 E420, V8. Very solid car. 560 sec, sel, 500sl and E350 are the others.
Just in the planning stage. really get exciting after seeing some tasteful mod cars here by you guys. Thinking about either red or blue. after market front, rear spoiler and skirt. Exhaust system, intake. that is about it for me, I believe. So sport model should be good? + spacer to push out the rims futher.

Sounds like the right way to go for what you want to do with the car. The sport package will help resale as well, not sure if that is a concern for you

Malm 03-07-2014 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z319 (Post 2724794)
Thanks for all the info. I drove nothing but MBZ (all pretty old models) for my past 15, 20 years. I did have a 87 300zx and 911 turbo for very short period of time. It is about time to get some changes before I get too old. Maybe I am too old for this already! I still own 5 mbz at home, my DD is a 94 E420, V8. Very solid car. 560 sec, sel, 500sl and E350 are the others.
Just in the planning stage. really get exciting after seeing some tasteful mod cars here by you guys. Thinking about either red or blue. after market front, rear spoiler and skirt. Exhaust system, intake. that is about it for me, I believe. So sport model should be good? + spacer to push out the rims futher.

You are in the same boat I was. I just ended up getting a base due to the price + mileage on the car was a very good deal. As far as modifying it.. ive done the stereo, exhaust, and have a aftermarket wing + front lip hopefully shipped to me soon. I plan on going to 20'' tire and dropping the car 1-2 inches (simple swift spring thing..tho I need to learn more about it)..and depending on the aftermarket wheels I get..i may or may not need spacers.

Riptide67 03-07-2014 05:45 PM

Just for the SRM and brakes alone the sport pkg is worth it. I had no plans to mod, but I did and it made selling the things I didn't need any longer easier.

Luciano13 03-08-2014 09:10 AM

:iagree: Sport packages is a better starter for mods vs the base model.

kenchan 03-08-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Malm (Post 2725107)
You are in the same boat I was. I just ended up getting a base due to the price + mileage on the car was a very good deal. As far as modifying it.. ive done the stereo, exhaust, and have a aftermarket wing + front lip hopefully shipped to me soon. I plan on going to 20'' tire and dropping the car 1-2 inches (simple swift spring thing..tho I need to learn more about it)..and depending on the aftermarket wheels I get..i may or may not need spacers.

you'll also want a bbk. otherwise youre going to have a gaping void inside the 20" barrel to your tiny base rotors.

another reason the sport package is worth it, for the akebono's.

z319 03-08-2014 10:24 AM

bbk? sorry, new here.

As far as the body kit, you buy the whole set or Ok to get them separately?
Cost wise, help me here:
1. sports with AT 36000+/-
2. Front lip, skirt, rear spoiler ??
3. Exhaust system ???
4. Intake??
5. wheels n tires ( as suggested by TerribleONE) ?? but will stick with 19" with proper offset, see some nice members rims here again!

Thanks again.

Luciano13 03-08-2014 10:37 AM

Mod costs all depend on your budget. For the above, that will run you $6,000 for average quality and over $10,000$ for high quality . Wheels/tires/exhaust are your big purchases. Body kits is where the price will change the better quality you go with or CF.

alcheng 03-08-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by z319 (Post 2723392)
If I am going to modify the car, does this mean I am only getting the limited differential since the wheels, suspension and rear spoiler will get upgraded?
Thanks.


what components do you plan to mod?

if you are going to change the wheels and brake, then you might not want the sports package.

but if you are going to mod CBE, intake, spoiler stuffs like that, then take the sports-package.

blackcherry20 03-08-2014 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2724760)
:iagree:

if you're planning to really mod this car into a track machine (aka SPOHN) i think it's worth getting the base and do it all from scratch, but for someone that's going to be motoring around town and spirited weekend drives, the sport package will be more than plenty imho. :tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 2724763)
:iagree: x2

:iagree: x 3.

Love my 6mt but wish now I had driven the 7at .... Test drove a 13 7at and it was way fun.

alcheng 03-08-2014 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2726311)
:iagree: x 3.

Love my 6mt but wish now I had driven the 7at .... Test drove a 13 7at and it was way fun.


C'mon... sports car need the clutch..!! :stirthepot:

blackcherry20 03-08-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2726343)
C'mon... sports car need the clutch..!! :stirthepot:

^^^truth... 2 seats and a clutch:tup: TRUE SPORTS CAR!

GL OP w whatever you decide... Fun is sure to be had :driving::happydance:

wherreratx 03-08-2014 04:18 PM

I have a couple of comments.

-> Buy Manual. You buy a sports car to feel the road and learn to drive on it. Going AUTO seems like "Your planning to have Grandma drive the car to Church."

-> Buying the Sport, Touring packages come with a lot of basic extras that you can (if you want) remove and upgrade. But the fact is that they are there, you only have one chance to do this in most cases. If you go BASE, you can not add Navi, Sync Trans, Nissan Brakes, etc and may not even justify the value add.

I got the Sport, Touring, Navi, and believe me... The 370z kicks ***. I just replaced the exhaust with a Fast Intention and I could not be any happier. I'm spending my upfront money on items that will make me happy and increase the value.

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Tigger 03-08-2014 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2726343)
C'mon... sports car need the clutch..!! :stirthepot:

I just have to say this everytime I see this comment. Nothing against you. I have an auto. So :p

But here goes... Going by this logic alone that would make the GTR not a real sports car.

Yup. I said it. The GTR isn't a sports car.

This isn't meant to start any **** or any kind of debate. Honestly, I almost don't care. But I still care just enough to point it out. It isn't an illogical comment. I'll give everyone here a thin mint if they can find a foot operated clutch pedal on the GTR. :stirthepot:

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Back on topic... I did buy the base model with touring package with the intention of upgrading all the things I thought I'd want to upgrade. Then the mod bug hit. Then every upgrade needed upgrading. Then I saw what the bill would have been had I hit purchse on every item I wanted. It went well over $15k not including boost. I wound up mostly regretting not picking up the damn sport package on the lot. If you are like me, you'll do the same.

For what it's worth, I'm currently looking to ditch the Z for a sport/touring or Nismo Z. And I've owned my Z only a year. Just my advice.

Chuck33079 03-08-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigger (Post 2726490)
I just have to say this everytime I see this comment. Nothing against you. I have an auto. So :p

But here goes... Going by this logic alone that would make the GTR not a real sports car.

Yup. I said it. The GTR isn't a sports car.

This isn't meant to start any **** or any kind of debate. Honestly, I almost don't care. But I still care just enough to point it out. It isn't an illogical comment. I'll give everyone here a thin mint if they can find a foot operated clutch pedal on the GTR. :stirthepot:

I didn't see him say "clutch pedal", just "clutch". So technically, wouldn't that mean the GTR is 2x the sports car?

Back on topic, get the sport package. I can't imagine why there's even an option to go without it.

Tigger 03-08-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2726501)
I didn't see him say "clutch pedal", just "clutch". So technically, wouldn't that mean the GTR is 2x the sports car?

I reject your reality and substitute my own. :icon17:

Tigger 03-08-2014 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2726501)
I can't imagine why there's even an option to go without it.

I've wondered the same since I bought mine.

11Thumper 03-09-2014 07:30 AM

Sport brings the base car to a lower price point. It's simple business. Most folks will realize the sport package is absolutely worth it and pretty much required. Can things be upgraded to be better? Sure, but the sport package offers a lot off the dealer lot. As to 6MT vs. 7AT this is stupid. The 7AT doesn't make the Z less of a sports car. Some fols need to pull their heads out of their...

I have 2 sports cars and the Z is 7AT while the S2k is 6MT. The 7AT is a great transmission and exactly what I needed this time. I'm sure the 6MT is great too but not what I wanted. That's doesn't make my decision any better just buy what you want.

Red__Zed 03-09-2014 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malm (Post 2723437)
These are the obvious differences between sport and base

Sport- 19'' Forged Rays (very popular to re-sale) vs 18'' stock wheels (which can look really nice powdercoated)
Nissan BBK (aftermarket stuff is expensive) vs really ugly calipers. Like... you can kind of see it in my avatar there glowing a bright dirty-silver....

Id say unless you are going to mod out everything.. Sport package starts you off nicely..

Other stuff is performance related.. like a sportier suspension and stuff that I personally would never be able to notice unless you told me.

7aT is fun..and if you get in that manual mood.. you have paddle shifters.


Same suspension between cars pre-13

Quote:

Originally Posted by wherreratx (Post 2726423)
-> Buying the Sport, Touring packages come with a lot of basic extras that you can (if you want) remove and upgrade. But the fact is that they are there, you only have one chance to do this in most cases. If you go BASE, you can not add Navi, Sync Trans, Nissan Brakes, etc and may not even justify the value add.

This is not entirely correct. Adding the brakes cost a touch over $1k. You cannot add the Nissan nav, but it's very easy to go aftermarket if that's your flavor. And upgrading the Bose system in the touring trim is more difficult.



OP: Which packages make sense depend on your plans for the car. Touring is nice if you like how Nissan has the car packaged.

Sport makes sense if you want a really cost-effective set of baseline modifications. If your goals are for more serious track use, the SRM will be the only item you would miss out on. The VLSD included in the sport package is not going to cut it for serious use, you will likely want wider/lighter wheels, and the Akebono's are probably a step below what you would need for serious use (and, if they are what you want, they are readily available new or used). If your plans aren't so over the top, the upgrades included may well be worth it.

Timing of your planned upgrades will matter as well-if you order some long-lead parts, you might want the sport package in the interim.

jaedub 03-10-2014 03:19 PM

I went with base for 2 reasons:
1.) I was on budget
2.) I will eventually replace the factory parts once the car is paid off

-I know how to heel-toe so SRM is a waste for me
-Whether it's base wheel or sports, I will eventually swap them out
-Definitely getting a LSD that is far superior than the factory VLSD
-Only thing I really want from sports package is the akebono brake kit

kenchan 03-10-2014 03:21 PM

i can tell you that i know how to heel and toe 2nd nature, but SRM on this car is a nice feature to have since there's throttle lag when you want to blip.

with the SRM, there's no lag.

synolimit 03-10-2014 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaedub (Post 2728584)
I went with base for 2 reasons:
1.) I was on budget
2.) I will eventually replace the factory parts once the car is paid off

-I know how to heel-toe so SRM is a waste for me
-Whether it's base wheel or sports, I will eventually swap them out
-Definitely getting a LSD that is far superior than the factory VLSD
-Only thing I really want from sports package is the akebono brake kit

Base vs sports is $2600. Base is a waste if you want a bbk.

alcheng 03-10-2014 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2728586)
i can tell you that i know how to heel and toe 2nd nature, but SRM on this car is a nice feature to have since there's throttle lag when you want to blip.

with the SRM, there's no lag.


sounds like you own a Z... :icon08:


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