you missed my point. what i was trying to say is that, IFFF anything, go forward not backwards [and by that i dont mean make a v8 Z..]. def keep it at 6.

im not sure what bmw was thinking by making a v8 m3. as fun as it was to drive and as much of a beast as it was, it was trying to over reach its "comfort zone" imo. v6 suited the e46 nicely..they shouldve kept it at that while generating more power for future m3s. let the bigger boys Ms take the v8+ engines and keep the m3 at 6.

v6 is the perfect balance in my opinion. if nissan goes lower...they will eventually [probably] realize it wasnt a smart idea and go back up to 6 again.

my 2 cents

As per OP's first post, Z designer Shiro Nakamura and product chief Andy Palmer are looking at a smaller Z with a turbo 4.

Most automobile manufacturers will use the same engine across a number of their cars (Nissan does it with the VQ) in order to keep costs in check. Here's my questions and I want to know what you folks think.

If Nissan did in fact come out with the smaller/lighter Z with a turbo 4, what other Nissan cars would it power?

They need to call the new Z the 370Z Twin Turbo. :) They did the same thing with the Z31 and Z32.

Hopefully not juke or sentra, we know the new maxima sedan will be a 3.5 w/ some electric motors.

Most likely will be found in the new G coupe/sedan (Q50 something whatever I am calling it G coupe)
-knowing that G coupe/sedan are pretty massive cars, Can't expect any less power/torque or they will risk becoming slower than civics.

So I'd say a high boost 4, north of 300hp 300tq from a 2.0+ displacement,

Would love to see less mass in the chasis, but wouldn't be upset if it was close to 3200lbs w/ more power... as long as it doesn't gain weight.

They can always just eliminate the 370 and just call it the Z. No point going backwards to a 200Z.

Or call it the Z35.

They could somewhat easily turbo the VQ. The issue would be the cooling capacities and space for said components. On the flip side, they would have to hold peoples hands on the maintenance plans and force the mechanics/salesman to actually train on the systems instead of following a script.

I for one wouldn't really care if the Z35 comes with a turbo 4-cylinder. I just wouldn't consider purchasing it. If they give us a 6-cylinder with some nifty stuff like direct injection and hybrid electric systems, I would consider it depending on the implementation. I am happy with my TT-Z now and would not want to give up the smile she puts on my face for something that I have to rework to get the same type of thing.

They could use this motor if they are indeed in league with Mercedes Benz; 2015 Mercedes-Benz E400 Twin-Turbo V-6

i would agree, but it has already been put out that Nissan's weight target for the next Z is around 2800lbs

Seriously doubt they will meet it w/ out alienating a lot of the customers.

Look at some of the recently released cars, most had weight reduction goals - and almost all ended up gaining weight. Just to name a few, the c7 chief engineer said they originally wanted the new vette to be ~100lbs lighter, it ended up being a little heavier vs the outgoing model.

The only thing holding me back from a turbo 4 is the sound. For me, thats part of the sports car experience and I just dont like how 4cyl sound...especially with exhaust. I personally would like a downsized v6 turbo instead.

I'd buy a V8 Z in a heartbeat. A 560Z would be awesome. And the E46, like all of the M3s before it came with an inline 6.

I'm sure this has been mentioned already, but could this be accomplished with the VQ25HR?

not really sure how reducing the Z's weight would alienate customers, but seeing as Nissan has been one of the few manufacturers to keep on goal as far as weight reductions in their vehicles i would not be skeptical about them actually reducing the weight of the Z as they have consistently been able to knock at least 100-200lbs or more off of all their vehicles that they have released lately

the new 510

Nissan should leave the turbo 4 for the IDx and make the Z slightly lower displacement but with a supercharger, or a high revving V8 :stirthepot:

Nah. The VQ25 isn't that great of an engine. Highly unlikely but it would be cool to see a new 3.0L v6.

Sounds like you want the Z to become a Hyundai Genesis coupe

Double post. Sorry.

I know several V8 owners who get a solid 9mpg.

Why not sell your Z if you hate it so much? Get a toyobru so you can complain over there.
What are you talking about? The juke has a 1.6t. I think its the MR16 or something like that.

You mean Fairlady Z

Nope don't want it like a genesis

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I seem to recall an article that noted Nissan wasn't really in a position to develop the Z as radically different from the Q50 -- I'm not expecting huge differences, but possibly the loss of 100 or so lbs.

As for motor, I could see them pulling a Hyundai and offering a half decent turbo 4 and for more $$$ a N/A V6.

I don't know about the Merc engines -- I thought those were all diesel, and so more oriented towards a Euro market.

Whatever they put in there, it will NOT be slower or handle worse than the current model, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

As to the FT-1, I kind of expect Toyota to tone it waaaaaay down and sticker it around 40 - 50K, making it a good bit more pricey than the Z35, but also placing it temptingly within the ball park, especially if it carries the legendary Supra badge and can get out of its own way.

Negative- it's petrol.

On a different note, here's further proof that there's plenty of power to be had from a FI 4 cylinder:


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Jan. 27, 2014

Nissan Unveils Revolutionary Engine

1.5-liter three-cylinder turbo produces 400 horsepower from a 40kg engine
More power per kilo than a Formula 1 engine
New technical partnership with Total lubricants revealed

Nissan Unveils Revolutionary Engine to Complement Electric ZEOD RC Powerplant - Nissan Online Newsroom

Well that certainly takes the wind out of Mercedes recent accomplishments with their new turbo 4 cylinder lol

:confused: Z31 and a Z32 are completely different cars but sure :ugh2:

also the Z32 was not called twinturbo unless it had TT's which not all of them did, there was a lot of NA Z32's

If toyota makes a car that is close tot he ft-1 concept, the z35 better look amazing or Nissan better hope the Toyota is in a way higher price/performance range. I think it'll probably be gt-r fighter if it comes out, but if it's in vette price range, oh man...

:iagree:

Nissan is taking way too long on the new Z and new "G"-coupe.

They better do a bang up job this time...I had a loaded 2011 G37S coupe before my ZR with quite a few mods. I did love it...but...

Agreed. The Z35 better look amazing if the Supra turns out to be in the same price range. I doubt the Supra will be a GT-R fighter. Even the LF-A fell short against the 2013 MY GT-R.

When is say Gt-r fighte,r i just mena the price/market range they will be shooting for. I really doubt it will be a z fighter. It will either be a 100k+ "super car" or a 60k-ish sports car, no way anything that looks remotely like that will be int he 35k range

for canada the Z is $50K I could see the FT-1 in the 50-60K range……GT-R up here is 110K+ new

if it came out exactly as it in concept now I would trade my Z for it and be willing to go as high as $65K maybe $70k as long as it's boosted and push in at least 400-450hp with the inline 6! :yum:

A Supra for $70K with 400-450 hp competing with Corvettes and Carreras. I like the sound of that. Hopefully Nissan follows suit with the Z35. But who would buy a $70K Z car in the 400-450 hp range? I certainly would. Well, as long as it's sexy.

:iagree: if the Z had that kinda power boosted I would consider it but the lines on that FT-1 concept :eek: :yum::leghump: that thing is F-ing sexyness!

You guys keep spewing the same pipe dreams.. Nissan already admitted the 370z needs a weight reduction and a more fuel efficient engine. Do you really think they are gonna listen to you guys on a niche car that barely even sold.

Should be lucky if there even is another z and considering how ugly nissans lineup is right now I wouldn't have high hopes for a good looking car.

Don't worry guys I only have 12 months left on the lease and I can't wait to get out of this car and I'm sure you can't wait either.

we already said what the next z will likely be, then we talked about the ft-1 and some people are just throwing out wishlists, not realistic expectations. Why are you even here. Just because you didn't do your research and it bit you in the ***, you have to come annoy us? Why is this guy not banned. He doesn't supply anything interesting or constructive, just sounds like a annoying whiny kid who got screwed by not knowing what he was getting. Maybe he thought it was going to be sooo fast or he would mod it and have 1000 hp or some idiot nonsense and that its slow because he can't beat these 5.0s in illegal street racing. Whatever it is, if you're just here to bitch, then don't be here. You don't want to be here and we don't want you here.

only problem is he was banned, but looks like only temporarily...in any case i've had him on my iggy list for almost the entire time he has been on these forums so i dont really care to read what he has to say in the first place aside from getting a few laughs out of his pathetic attempts at trolling the forums

Yet you keep spewing the same negativity about Nissan and the Z. You already admitted that you hate this car. Do you really think that we listen to you whenever every post reminds us of Hayden Christensen's Anakin Skywalker?

Your last sentence makes it seem like you are deliberately trolling. Why stay around a forum of a car you hate and where you have nothing at all but negativity to contribute? Im sure your time and effort could be used more beneficially somewhere else.

since you don't like the z you know you don't have to wait till end of lease, you always can trade it in or sell it yourself right now!!:bowrofl:

He is. He bought (err leased) more car than he can afford, and blames being car poor on the car not himself. He's so starved for attention in his personal life that the negative attention he gets here is the best he can hope for. He's a sad, pathetic little kid who gets off on being annoying because his mom and whichever john sired him never gave him any love growing up. It's really a shame that rubber broke twenty or so years ago.

:icon18: :roflpuke2: :bowrofl: :tup:

Just read article in 1 of the latest car rags . It said not sure if Nissan can have Idx and z because they also really want to build blade runner and still have gtr. So it may come down to building either Idx or z.