Thinking of getting rid of my 40th
 

Ok let me know what you think. I am thinking about trading in my 2010 40th anniversary in on a 2013 Black ZL1 Camaro. Its a very nice loaded car and very powerful with 580hp! I am still up in the air about it and not sure if I should just sell my Z cause they are only going to give me $25,000 for it which is making me not want to do it. I don't know I am just asking but what would someone give me for it. My Z only has 11,000 miles and is loaded. Has the Fast Intentions high flow cats with the 18" exhaust, Kenwood Dvd,Garmin Nav and Backup Camera. Z1 Wheel Spacers, Clear bra, HPS Intake Tubes with K&N Filters, Huper Optik Tint. And this car is clean!! never ever driven in the rain!! never eaten or smoked in the car!! never wrecked, only drive it on nice weekends. and probably only put maybe 900 miles on it this year!

Id try to sell the Z on your own, may take longer but you will get more for it. or try another dealer

Also, if you're going to get rid of it, put it back to stock and sell the aftermarket parts separately. They don't add value to the car.

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What are your Thoughts on the ZL1?

I've never ridden in one or driven one, but I really don't like the looks of the Camaro, especially the interior.

The exterior is okay, but I wish they'd get rid of the retro look - I hate how Chevy, Ford, and Dodge did this to their cars.

The interior is atrocious. Nothing flows. Colors clash. :barf:

The performance of it though, can't really find a fault with that. ;)

I'm not a fan of the Camaro but there was a ZL1 on the track at Sebring and it was fast!

I was looking at a zl1 camaro prior to when i purchased my nismo z. The thing that was the deal breaker for me was when i was sitting in the car i could not believe how hideous the interior is. I realize the car has insane power but there is no comparison between sitting in the drivers seat of a z and a camaro. Also when i took the zl1 out for a test drive it experienced body roll in the corners and just felt real bulky to drive. In a straight line the zl1 shines but anything else and it blows.
My advice to you is to keep your car and if more power is what you seek just go the FI route on your z and then you can blow the doors off the camaro.

I can agree with the interior its not great but it does have some nice touches.
1 being the hud display on the windshield and it also comes with touchscreen navigation and a sunroof. 1 thing I do like is that the traction control does not come on like it does in the Z. That crap bothers me how intrusive it is when I am hardly getting on it. I know you can switch it off but it still intervenes. The seats are really nice with black leather and red stiching.

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I've never had it intervene once I turn TCS off.

Then again, I don't usually push it, but if I drive the same when it's on as I do when it's off, it comes on easily when making right-hand turns. :shakes head:

You might consider asking one of the several folks here that have traded their Z for a ZL1, as they've got day-to-day experience with both cars.

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Is the ZL1 gonna be kept in the garage and driven 1k miles per year?

I would hate to finance a nice/fun car and not drive it at all. Such a waste.

I would first wonder what you do with the Z/Camaro. Is this Camaro also going to get about 900 miles per year? Do you track it? If not, you're not going to be able to put down all the Camaro power on the roads very often, ya know?

If you drive it only on nice weekends and never all that hard, I'd really wonder if sticking to something exotic/different like the Z wouldn't be a better call. But that's me and not you; we certainly derive our happiness in different ways! :) Either way, damn nice cars!

I have to agree, my wife says the same thing.
But I have a truck and a Tahoe and my wife has a Mercedes.
Back in the day when I had my EVO 8 I swore that my next sports car wouldn't be my only car to drive. So I only drive it when its nice, plus I have kids and all the activities that goes with that.

When I contemplate getting a new car, I stop and ask myself, "Can I have $30K more fun than my current Z?" That Corvette C7 will continue to tempt me more, because the current answer to my own question is, NO.

you should buy the camaro and keep your Z for a few months. then decide wat to do with your Z... or camaro for that matter.
i bought my Z while keeping my G just in case. was going to sell the G when i felt the time was right.

well, 4yrs later i still have my Z and G. :icon17:

If you said the Corvette, even a ZL1 C6, I would have said yes.

But like many others, some features in the Camaro don't thrill me, also the fact that you said it will only get weekend action, if that. Not sure its worth the trouble of selling the Z and then getting the Camaro. Sure its nice to know its in the Garage but still.

I'm worried about the same thing as we are working on number 2. its tricky enough to get Z time already, will be worse with 2 kids.

Heck, just to drive my Z, I often drop my kid to daycare in my Forester, then hurry back home to switch cars to the Z which means I am paying downtown parking. Its a crazy sacrifice for all this Z love lol.

Really is a good point. Hard to find a car in this price range that gets you the looks and thrills the Z does! I'm feeling the market out right now, if someone comes by I may just let it go.. won't be easy tho :(

IMO I would stick with the Z strictly for the total fun factor and the interior. I tried a ZL1 during fun runs at an auto-x event and it was a pig to throw around. The Z offers fun in all categories, while the ZL1 is straight line power only for the most part. Plus, the interior is to open and wide for me. I like the feel of a more enclosed tight cockpit.

I've been a GM owner (Camaro, Corvette, etc) for almost 40 years. While the 'retro' look is nice to look at on the Camaro, it doesn't handle like the Z does. The only GM car that comes close or exceeds the Z is the Corvette, but at a price point that is at least $30K above the Z, it's not a good buy, IMHO. I'm glad I chose the Z, lovin' the sheer fun factor of driving it. :)

The ZL1 is big for autoX, but it is far from a "straight line only" car.

Just to mention...The Camaro is already a car that isn't all that special when you see one on the road, or when you're walking to it in the parking lot. ZL1 or not, no one notices the difference other than enthusiasts.

The Z, though, is going to be a looker and pretty unique for many, many years.

I bet you could rent a ZL1 and try it out for a week!

Wow so far not too many good comments or reasons to get the ZL1.
As far as handling the suspension is way better than the 370z. It has the magnetic shocks the same ones on the Z06 and CTS-v. Now I think the Z handles good but might be stretching a bit saying its better. Look at the you tube video of that beast on a track and you might think differently, even with all that weight. Keep the comments coming cause it helps me to decide with everyone's opinions.

You should expect some bias towards the Z here... The ZL1 looks fun as hell but I don't think it is worth paying an extra 30ish thousand for. That's just me though.

I like Camaros and ZL1 definitely is an upgrade. But sounds like you want zl1 for street driving. No problems with that and it may be even a better daily than the Z. (more space, not as low to get into).
Just all depends on your finances and if you will still be happy with it 6 months from now when you see z/28's or another upgrade of it.

But on a side note I call dibs on the fast intentions exhaust being that we are both in the same city.

I was comparing it to the Z, that is why I said "for the most part". I agree it has other pros, but for me, not enough to overcome the Z.

What is the point of this trade? More power? Better handling? Do you prefer the look of a camaro over our Z? Just want to spend money? :D
If power is the motivating factor, boost the Z. If it's power and handling, add coilovers... I don't know if it'll be as good/better/worse, it's just an idea. If you are thinking about getting a camaro to begin with, you will probably get it.

a lot of the video's showing the ZL1 on the track show the car using the motor to power its way through the corners not using its suspension so much. Camaros are known for the heavy body roll but solid straight line speed. Now thats not to say you could mod it to be a stiff car since aftermarket parts for this car are easy to find and cheap. As far as uniqueness factor (meaning how often you see them on the street 1 being the most etc etc.) they are not very

1. Mustangs - are EVERYWHERE
2. Corvette
3. Camero
4. Charger
5. 350Z
6. Challenger
7. 370Z
8. 40th Anniversary 370Z
9. and so on

4 or 6... one of them is challenger

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Hate to say there is definitely a lot of bias here. The ZL1 outperforms the Z in every category except braking. It is a heavy car and may not feel as nimble as the Z, but when put to the test it will beat the Z with room to spare. Granted it does have a distinct power advantage. It's still a very well designed car.

That said, why the ZL1 over a C7 Corvette? Base price on a Vette is cheaper, the Vette is way lighter, quicker 0-60, better handling, better gas mileage, and looks better IMO. Even with the Z51 package and magnetic ride control, it comes out the same price as the ZL1. You can go much higher on the Vette of course, but you don't have to.

I like the Darth Vader look of the black ZL1.
Other reasons are its expensive to mod the 370z with not much gain unless you spend about 10grand or more to turbo/supercharge it. lastly I guess I am getting tired of it and I kinda want some V8 old school muscle. In the end I might just stay with my Z. Really all this is just a want not a need I have other cars.

I’m pretty much in line with everyone else here. I’m not a huge fan of the Camaro and all the versions look the same. I would rather have the Shelby GT500 over the Camaro Zl1. If you are going to spend this kind of money to get a Zl1, then why not pay a couple dollars more and get the new Corvette. The new Corvette is pretty effen sexy, 7MT (if you go this route), V8, lots of power, kick arse gas mileage considering a V8 & the hp it has, and etc. You also need to stop and think which car will give you the most headache down the road to fix and which car is more reliable too.

True that there is a bias BUT the ZL1 doesn't outperform in every aspect, sorry that is incorrect. The Z is lighter, more nimble and (as you already pointed out) has better braking. Pound for pound they are close in performance...if the Z had 300 more horses :icon14:

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But for $10k more you can have a HELL of a lot more with a used Z06 ;)

I upgraded to a Z06 in May and it is day and night different. The Z was quick but the vette is on another planet. The ZL1s are really badass and they actually handle really well since they have the mag ride suspension, but the downside is the crappy A pilar that cuts out needed visibility when turning and the overall size of the car for me is too large. The weight doesn't matter as much when you have 580hp and huge brakes, but for general (non-performance) maneuvering and parking it plays a big part.

If you're looking for more power and torque, you have to ditch the Z. Even with Twin Turbos, you're not going to make as much RELIABLE power as you can with the V8. And with the V8 there won't be any gauges to monitor or headaches. Just stomp the gas and go.

The Z is a great platform for 300-400hp. More than that is stretching it.

Sounds like you already made your mind OP, considering that they are two completely different cars I would just part out your Z and buy the ZL1 so you can be happy about it

A modded car is actually worth less if you trade it in so try to find a buyer through the forum or autotrader otherwise return it to stock and get raped on the trade in

Sell your car privately if you plan to sell; remove and part out whatever mods you can.

If you want a Camaro, go for it. Alternatively, wait and see what the next Mustang will look like.

My own (possibly worthless) opinion: I am not a fan of the new Camaro, or really of the new Mustang -- if I had to have backseats, my guilty pleasure would be a blown, black Charger or Challenger SRT8.

You just repeated what I said without any counter facts to support your point. I already stated the Z feels more nimble which is due to it's lighter weight. Yet the ZL1 pulls as much if not more lateral Gs. The ZL1 trounced the 370Z on the Nurburgring and is up there with the big boys in time. Giving the Z the same power as the ZL1 isn't actually a good comparison either. A fair comparison would be to match hp/lb ratio. Do that and you have a very interesting battle.

In either case, you win with a C7 for the same price. I say get the Corvette.

I don't doubt the ZL1's capabilities but for me, performance is only one aspect. This is purely subjective, obviously, but I find the exterior/interior styling of the Camaro a huge turn off. It's just trying too hard on the outside, combined with the Wal-Mart special interior. The Corvette is better, but, as a whole, they have never appealed to me. For the asking price of a ZL1, I would rather TT my Z and load it with suspension goodies, because it's more my style. Again this is purely subjective and to each his own. Good luck with whatever you do.