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jhtran13 11-13-2013 03:34 PM

performance difference between no sport or sport package
 
hey guys im wondering,

how much of a performance difference is there between having the sport package vs. no sport package.

I know it kind of does look better since it comes with a spoiler/rims

TerribleONE 11-13-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jhtran13 (Post 2567567)
hey guys im wondering,

how much of a performance difference is there between having the sport package vs. no sport package.

I know it kind of does look better since it comes with a spoiler/rims

What do you plan to use the car for? The sport package gives you better brakes (still not up for track use) wider rims, and better stock tires.

TerribleONE 11-13-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by waaaasabi (Post 2567573)
Very little to none.

I definitely wouldnt go that far.. however the difference isnt some huge margin.

SS_Firehawk 11-13-2013 03:51 PM

2013 has stiffer dampers. List includes, spoiler, front lip spoiler (under the bumper), upgraded brakes with hardened lines and GTR brake fluid, synchro rev match for manual trannys, viscous differential, and forged Rays wheels as opposed to the base cast wheels. It's a great buy if you are looking for those things in your car.

TerribleONE 11-13-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2567583)
2013 has stiffer dampers. List includes, spoiler, front lip spoiler (under the bumper), upgraded brakes with hardened lines and GTR brake fluid, synchro rev match for manual trannys, viscous differential, and forged Rays wheels as opposed to the base cast wheels. It's a great buy if you are looking for those things in your car.

I totally forgot about all those other things since I went aftermarket. lol I think you definitely covered everything!

takjak2 11-13-2013 04:25 PM

It's a sports car. Get the sport package.

The sport package brakes are excellent and worth the cost, the syncro rev match is irreplaceable, and everything else is just icing.

Chuck33079 11-13-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2567583)
2013 has stiffer dampers. List includes, spoiler, front lip spoiler (under the bumper), upgraded brakes with hardened lines and GTR brake fluid, synchro rev match for manual trannys, viscous differential, and forged Rays wheels as opposed to the base cast wheels. It's a great buy if you are looking for those things in your car.

It will cost you a lot more than the $3k the sport package costs to piece together the aftermarket equivalent.

onzedge 11-13-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2567622)
It will cost you a lot more than the $3k the sport package costs to piece together the aftermarket equivalent.

Plus you cannot bolt-on synchro-rev matching...

jhtran13 11-13-2013 05:26 PM

sweet thanks, yeah

im deciding to go for a 2013 base + sport + auto

kfull 11-13-2013 05:45 PM

Sports package totally worth it

2xtreme1 11-13-2013 05:51 PM

Honestly sport is a must for this car imo unless you're making a track car aka modding it.
The rims and lip spoiler are the icing on the cake for the car.
The small calipers on the base looks weird on a z..

DEpointfive0 11-13-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jhtran13 (Post 2567728)
sweet thanks, yeah

im deciding to go for a 2013 base + sport + auto

If you EVER plan on turbo-ing it or supercharging it. You don't want the auto. Besides that, awesome transmission!
(Also, every auto comes with revmatching, that's another reason why it costs more)

And try to get a 2014

waaaasabi 11-13-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2567574)
I definitely wouldnt go that far.. however the difference isnt some huge margin.

You're right - for some reason I thought he was asking about the performance difference with just the base wheels and sport wheels and spoiler (was somewhat distracted while reading), so I redacted my post.

kenchan 11-13-2013 06:33 PM

base brakes look like crap

oh wait...

jhtran13 11-13-2013 09:42 PM

this is gonna be a daily driver, i dont think im gonna track it or mod it

maybe in the future i will add a better sound unit

tonythetiger 11-13-2013 10:08 PM

really depends on what ur going to do, I bought the base, still have it for over 2.5yrs and still modding...

tonythetiger 11-13-2013 10:09 PM

btw selling swift springs let me know if ur interested

Mt Tam I am 11-13-2013 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by waaaasabi (Post 2567804)
You're right - for some reason I thought he was asking about the performance difference with just the base wheels and sport wheels and spoiler (was somewhat distracted while reading), so I redacted my post.

I thought like you it was eg. 68 Mph vs 72 MPH etc.

Wonka2581 11-14-2013 12:46 AM

I got a base because I want to build the car my self. Why throw out money on parts that you are going to change out anyway. Do what is best for you and what you like.;)

jaedub 11-14-2013 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2568251)
I got a base because I want to build the car my self. Why throw out money on parts that you are going to change out anyway. Do what is best for you and what you like.;)

This is my mentality too. However, I'm planning to mod it once I pay off the car. One thing I really do want NOW is LSD. I literally get stuck turning into a drive way sometimes.

Wonka2581 11-14-2013 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jaedub (Post 2568254)
This is my mentality too. However, I'm planning to mod it once I pay off the car. One thing I really do want NOW is LSD. I literally get stuck turning into a drive way sometimes.

Haha ya I know what you mean, That might be the next thing I do. And my hats off to you on being able to wait till you pay off the car I'm way to impatient for that:tiphat: Hell I havent even had my car a year and spent over 7K in mods....

bombdefuzer 11-14-2013 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2567765)
If you EVER plan on turbo-ing it or supercharging it. You don't want the auto. Besides that, awesome transmission!
(Also, every auto comes with revmatching, that's another reason why it costs more)

And try to get a 2014

Yes agree with DEpointfive0, definitely get the 2014. The price has dropped for 2014.

2014 Nissan 370Z pricing announced, MSRP reduced by $3,000 - Autoblog

alvitdk 11-14-2013 02:57 AM

I bought base after driving the Nismo. Not sure about others, but I am not into track driving and thought the suspension for normal street and daily driver was too harsh for me. Bought an aftermarket spoiler and that's it. The base brakes are perfectly good enough for normal street use. I really depends what driver and what your plans are.

paperboy42190 11-14-2013 05:03 AM

stock for stock, sports package looks much better and worth it IMO

Gadgetech 11-14-2013 05:13 AM

I got a 2014 base with the sports package. I prefer the radio location and extra cubby you get with the base car. The standard radio isn't bad and if you're in to aftermarket stereos then you have less to deal with than switching from the Bose unit.





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b15 11-14-2013 06:56 AM

Get the sports. The brakes and synchro rev are worth it. Sure the base brakes are adequate, but I see lots of people upgrade the base to the sport package brakes because of the looks. The kit will run you almost 1/3 of the sport package price, and you still won't have syncro rev match, or the forged wheels and so much more.

andre12031948 11-14-2013 07:02 AM

base + sport in my opinion is best for the avg. Z guy BUT
 
Before the but I had an 08 enth. 350, similar to sport. I found a base 2012 with only 1k miles & owned by a doctor who had to leave the area/country? Maybe a terrorist? :icon17: Mileage & condition was incredible & I had a pumpkin with LSD at home. So after driving it for only 5 minutes, I found this car to be perfect for me. Now the brakes(disks) were smaller, but the car stopped just fine plus if I will do some drag racing, lighter brakes is like having lighter wheels.

So I hit a point in life (65 yrs) where I no longer will drive the country roads that are in my N.Y.S upstate area at 120+ mph with the possibility of a deer or other animals jumping out of the woods, or me losing control on a turn & smashing into trees. A smooth driving car with an excellent auto trans. made sense to me.

I didn't need/want a Nismo.

So under different circumstances , a sport model with a manual trans. would be a must, but sometimes for some of us, the base model would be fine. However, I do HAVE to have LSD.

Had to drive yesterday for 5 hours. Found the car a pleasure to drive. I'm happy(for now) with a base.

UNKNOWN_370 11-14-2013 07:59 AM

Sport pkg is awesome... The akebonos aren't track ready but are easily track upgradable. A $700 stoptech or z1 brake upgrade kit and some motul brake fluid and you're good to go. For more rigorous tracking you can add stillens brake cooling kit. This is an extra $350 investment. But it beats $5000 in a completely new brake kit. The biggest value are the wheels based on them being ultralight and forged. The LSD is not ideal for track use but for autox and tackling twisties, it does the job well.
The spoilers make the car look slightlymore aggressive but is probably the cheesiest part of the package... The sport pkg is,definitely worth it as a baseline for a light or moderately modified car.

mab864 11-14-2013 08:07 AM

At the dealers in my area, it was hard to find a base model without the sport package. It seems like most or even all of the Z's in my area had the sport package. That made the choice easy for me... I wanted the sport package anyway. Better tires, wheels, brakes, and sycncro rev-match made it worth it for me.

onzedge 11-14-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2568513)
Sport pkg is awesome... The akebonos aren't track ready but are easily track upgradable. A $700 stoptech or z1 brake upgrade kit and some motul brake fluid and you're good to go. For more rigorous tracking you can add stillens brake cooling kit. This is an extra $350 investment. But it beats $5000 in a completely new brake kit. The biggest value are the wheels based on them being ultralight and forged. The LSD is not ideal for track use but for autox and tackling twisties, it does the job well.
The spoilers make the car look slightlymore aggressive but is probably the cheesiest part of the package... The sport pkg is,definitely worth it as a baseline for a light or moderately modified car.

:iagree:

Masterbeatty 11-14-2013 12:39 PM

My thought process when buying my non-sport base was why spend an extra 9k for a 2012 sport when I'm going to change all that stuff anyways when I mod it or I can get a base non sport 2011 for 26k out the door brand new.:tiphat:

I have auto crossed it this past summer and last year a few times and stock for stock against another sport 6mt his time was 2 secs faster because he was running a square set up on Hoosier a6 tires. My brakes are great since I put super blue race fluid in. So it's all up to you and how much you want to spend. The only thing I would like from the sport pkg. is the syncro rev match. I heel toe just fine but not perfect like srm does.

Chuck33079 11-14-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 2568993)
My thought process when buying my non-sport base was why spend an extra 9k for a 2012 sport when I'm going to change all that stuff anyways when I mod it or I can get a base non sport 2011 for 26k out the door brand new.:tiphat:

I have auto crossed it this past summer and last year a few times and stock for stock against another sport 6mt his time was 2 secs faster because he was running a square set up on Hoosier a6 tires. My brakes are great since I put super blue race fluid in. So it's all up to you and how much you want to spend. The only thing I would like from the sport pkg. is the syncro rev match. I heel toe just fine but not perfect like srm does.

I'm sorry, I'm not following your math. The sport package is a $3k option, not $9k.

Were you a comparable driver to the other guy? That's the other variable in the equation.

b15 11-14-2013 01:19 PM

I'm sure the base brakes are plenty adequate, however:
http://buyersguide.caranddriver.com/...st0320_042.jpg
vs.
http://image.automobilemag.com/f/201...ront_wheel.jpg

When was the last time you saw a sports car without blingy brakes :D

However I do realize the OP was asking about performance difference and not looks, so yes, I'm sure you'll be just fine with a base.

DLSTR 11-14-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jhtran13 (Post 2567728)
sweet thanks, yeah

im deciding to go for a 2013 base + sport + auto

= winning! :) Enjoy it!

SunsetZ 11-14-2013 04:05 PM

Like someone said, the 2014 is over $3,000 cheaper, why would anyone consider a 2013? Are dealers dropping those below the 2014 deals?

Masterbeatty 11-14-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2569011)
I'm sorry, I'm not following your math. The sport package is a $3k option, not $9k.

You are correct! But ...... I bought a year old car (2011)in May of 2012 and the new base model was $32k plus 3k. So that's where I got the 9 k from. Remember the prices dropped for 2014 370z's.

But still performance aspect is marginal IMO and experience. The only big difference I would say is that the auto sport is significantly faster than a sport base in a drag race,(LSD and faster shifts). That i will argue, I was smoked by one in the 1/8th mile when I lived in San Diego. But other than that the difference can be argued both ways.

Also for 3 grand I can get a better LSD, brake pads, brake fluid and some puma's and perform better than a base plus sport and pay for one or two track days or
an oil cooler. If you plan on buying it to upgrade that anyway than I would say get a base to not waste any money. So function over form. Personal preference/ wallet size. :tup:

Chuck33079 11-14-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 2569306)
You are correct! But ...... I bought a year old car (2011)in May of 2012 and the new base model was $32k plus 3k. So that's where I got the 9 k from. Remember the prices dropped for 2014 370z's.

But still performance aspect is marginal IMO and experience. The only big difference I would say is that the auto sport is significantly faster than a sport base in a drag race,(LSD and faster shifts). That i will argue, I was smoked by one in the 1/8th mile when I lived in San Diego. But other than that the difference can be argued both ways.

Also for 3 grand I can get a better LSD, brake pads, brake fluid and some puma's and perform better than a base plus sport and pay for one or two track days or
an oil cooler. If you plan on buying it to upgrade that anyway than I would say get a base to not waste any money. So function over form. Personal preference/ wallet size. :tup:

So you're comparing a new car to a used one? Gotcha. That's not really apples to apples, is it?

Your three grand doesn't include wheels and tires. Also, the akebonos are much better for track use than the base brakes, you just need pads and cooling. If you decide that you want to upgrade from the sports package, people will buy akebonos, wheels and the LSD. So you can make some money back there too.

Masterbeatty 11-14-2013 05:12 PM

I actually bought it with 8miles on it so it was a new car. But I guess we will never know what is truly the best bang for your buck 370z since it can go so many ways. From what I get out of all this is personal preference. If you are happy then that is all that matters in the end.

UNKNOWN_370 11-14-2013 08:57 PM

The sport pkg gives over $7000 in quality equipment for $3000. Even with the $1200 in mods the package may need to be track ready. You still keep $2800 in your pocket for more mods going with the sport pkg.

The akebonos are 10x better than the base brakes. Definitely worth the money.

Aggie 11-15-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jhtran13 (Post 2567567)
hey guys im wondering,

how much of a performance difference is there between having the sport package vs. no sport package.

I know it kind of does look better since it comes with a spoiler/rims



I bought a new 2013 base in April and if I could do it again I'd get the sport every time. Synchro rev alone makes it worth it, but you also get a limited slip diff, better brakes and tires, and stiffer suspension. The base is a great car, but with the 3k price reduction on the Z's a few months ago it's worth it to just pay the extra money for the sport package.


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