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mag_black 11-13-2013 12:43 AM

OBD II scanner/reader
 
I'm looking to pick up either kiwi w/ dashcommand or a physical scanner. What's the general consensus for physical obd II scanners vs plx kiwi wifi 2 and software?

I'm really only using it to check codes and to check system readiness.

Haboob 11-13-2013 08:11 AM

I bought this:

Amazon.com: Autel MaxiScan MS300 CAN Diagnostic Scan Tool for OBDII Vehicles: Automotive

And it works to check and clear codes w/o issue. Quick, concise. :tup:

Meulen 11-13-2013 08:30 AM

I bought a cheap ELM wi-fi and dashcommand. There's a slight lag, but right now I'm only using it for fun like you seem to plan on. To be honest, when I'm really looking at it, by the time I can look over at the display it's probably caught up to what I'm doing anyway. You can check out the set up in my build link below.

and I did a DIY on putting an iPad mini in the cubby here http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...nto-cubby.html

Masterbeatty 11-13-2013 08:52 AM

I have the Kiwi bluetooth and that works great with the TORQUE (andriod)app. I have also used it for dash command on my pc for some logging. But since i have an iphone(wifi kiwi needed), now i dont use it as much. Since i live in CT and you live in MA. I am willing to sell it. Just PM me.

cossie1600 11-13-2013 10:12 AM

Same here I got one for sale too if you have an android. I switch to iPhone and need a different one

SouthArk370Z 11-13-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mag_black (Post 2566695)
I'm looking to pick up either kiwi w/ dashcommand or a physical scanner. What's the general consensus for physical obd II scanners vs plx kiwi wifi 2 and software?

I'm really only using it to check codes and to check system readiness.

For your stated purposes, speed is not critical and any Bluetooth/Wi-Fi lag wouldn't be important.

I use a ScanGuageII (plugs straight into the OBD port) for reading/clearing DTCs and real-time monitoring of speed, water temp, IAT and one more param depending on what I am interested in at the time. For logging, I bought an ELM-based OBD-to-USB adapter that I connect to a laptop. I can also read/clear DTCs with the software but it's easier to use the ScanGuage.

The ScanGuage runs about $160 dollars, so that may not be the best option for you. The OBD-to-USB adapter was $20-30, I already had the laptop laying around, and I downloaded the software for free.

kenchan 11-13-2013 11:13 AM

i use a standalone obd2 reader... cause i bought it before smartphones came into existence. :icon17:

wat is android?

that was an awesome game in the 80's.

mag_black 11-14-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 2567037)
I have the Kiwi bluetooth and that works great with the TORQUE (andriod)app. I have also used it for dash command on my pc for some logging. But since i have an iphone(wifi kiwi needed), now i dont use it as much. Since i live in CT and you live in MA. I am willing to sell it. Just PM me.

I watched videso of dashcommand, but I couldn't get much info about the "diagnostics" page. It runs a scan and shows sensor errors and/or not ready state. Does it go into detail though?

I don't want to spend $90 for kiwi and $10 for dashcommand if it's not going to do the job of $100 obdII scanner.

H2O_Doc 11-14-2013 10:40 PM

I use a $15 ELM327 and it works fine.

MikeUCFL 11-14-2013 11:21 PM

I use a cheap 20$ bluetooth ELM327 as well. I hooked it up to my factory nav using an mk808b (mini android device), HDMI to RGB converter, and the Torque app. Would be nice to have a HDMI to GVIF adapter for a better display, but those suckers are 200$ or more.

Masterbeatty 11-15-2013 12:39 PM

The torque app works wonders with diagnostics. I have ran down vacuums leaks in my wife's car, and a bad fuel injector on my friends wrx. But I only used dash command on my PC for data logging. So that is unknown territory for me. I can screw around with it tonight though.

cruzthepug 07-30-2014 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2566987)
I bought this:

Amazon.com: Autel MaxiScan MS300 CAN Diagnostic Scan Tool for OBDII Vehicles: Automotive

And it works to check and clear codes w/o issue. Quick, concise. :tup:

Any idea if this will work to reset the TMPS after a wheel swap?

Haboob 07-30-2014 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cruzthepug (Post 2913188)
Any idea if this will work to reset the TMPS after a wheel swap?

I'm not sure, I had never tried that.

I purchased new TPMS' put in on my new wheels so I didn't have to deal with all of that. :icon17:

cruzthepug 07-30-2014 08:06 AM

I had a set of TPMS from a set of base model wheels I had installed in my new wheels, now it's throwing the light

cruzthepug 07-30-2014 08:22 AM

I've been running on my race wheels (no TPMS) for a couple of weeks waiting on my new wheels. I thought it would re-set when put on my new wheels with sensors, maybe not.

Haboob 07-30-2014 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cruzthepug (Post 2913328)
I've been running on my race wheels (no TPMS) for a couple of weeks waiting on my new wheels. I thought it would re-set when put on my new wheels with sensors, maybe not.

IIRC, there still has to be something done with the TMPS's to get them to communicate with the car. They can't just be swapped/installed and good to go.

I'll ask my buddy that did my wheels when he's awake. Still way too early for anyone here. :icon17: Except the me... :yawn:

kenchan 07-30-2014 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzthepug (Post 2913328)
I've been running on my race wheels (no TPMS) for a couple of weeks waiting on my new wheels. I thought it would re-set when put on my new wheels with sensors, maybe not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2913332)
IIRC, there still has to be something done with the TMPS's to get them to communicate with the car. They can't just be swapped/installed and good to go.

I'll ask my buddy that did my wheels when he's awake. Still way too early for anyone here. :icon17: Except the me... :yawn:

wow, that sucks. on my dd i run 2 sets of wheels one set with and one set without tpms tx. i just have to drive it around the block with the set with tpms and the system resets itself.

another reason why im glad i dont run tpms on my Z. that would just drive
me insane. :ugh2: i put a circle e-tape over the lamp. :icon17: haha

cigarclifford 07-30-2014 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2913619)
wow, that sucks. on my dd i run 2 sets of wheels one set with and one set without tpms tx. i just have to drive it around the block with the set with tpms and the system resets itself.

another reason why im glad i dont run tpms on my Z. that would just drive
me insane. :ugh2: i put a circle e-tape over the lamp. :icon17: haha

Same canoe... My Nismo wheels with tpms. My Work wheels - weekend show
wheels without.......

kenchan 07-30-2014 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cigarclifford (Post 2913624)
Same canoe... My Nismo wheels with tpms. My Work wheels - weekend show
wheels without.......

hummm... :confused:

maybe the tireshop broke the transmitters on cruzthepug's wheels... :eekdance:

cruzthepug 07-30-2014 01:00 PM

The TPMS I had put in my new wheels were from a base model set of wheels I bought used, didn't come on my car. I don't remember them throwing the light the couple of times I used them before removing the TPMS, maybe they did. I think I just need to reset everything so the will start communicating.

kenchan 07-30-2014 01:06 PM

hummm.. tpms needs to be paired (sync'ed?) manually to the car so not sure how the wheels that weren't on your car from factory paired to the system.

cruzthepug 07-30-2014 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2913634)
hummm.. tpms needs to be paired (sync'ed?) manually to the car so not sure how the wheels that weren't on your car from factory paired to the system.


That's the thing, I'm not sure now after putting on the new wheels that they did work before when I had the wheels on my car. I guess I just didn't notice the light. Only had them on while doing some autocross events, so really wasn't looking at the dash like I would have been just driving around town.

Now they need sync'ed

kenchan 07-30-2014 01:12 PM

btw, are those tpms from a '13 or '14? cause i read nissan changed the tpms since 2012 or something. i dont remember which model year.

cruzthepug 07-30-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2913642)
are those tpms from a '13 or '14? cause i read nissan changed the tpms since 2012 or something. i dont remember which model year.


Hmmm, don't know. I bought them through the classifieds on here. I'll have to see if I can find that thread.

cigarclifford 07-30-2014 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzthepug (Post 2913632)
The TPMS I had put in my new wheels were from a base model set of wheels I bought used, didn't come on my car. I don't remember them throwing the light the couple of times I used them before removing the TPMS, maybe they did. I think I just need to reset everything so the will start communicating.

Had a issue with my local Wheels Works.. They had a broken light to re flash
the tpms. Went to my local Nissan dealership.. Reset for free. Problem gone....

kenchan 07-30-2014 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzthepug (Post 2913644)
Hmmm, don't know. I bought them through the classifieds on here. I'll have to see if I can find that thread.

yah, that's going to be important to know when you go to your nissan dealer for the reset.

cruzthepug 07-30-2014 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2913664)
yah, that's going to be important to know when you go to your nissan dealer for the reset.


I found the thread and sent a message to the guy I got them from to find out.

kenchan 07-30-2014 01:30 PM

yah, hope you have the ones that work on your car. otherwise i would just swap them out for some standard metal stems.

cruzthepug 07-30-2014 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2913670)
yah, hope you have the ones that work on your car. otherwise i would just swap them out for some standard metal stems.


From a '09 model

kenchan 07-30-2014 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzthepug (Post 2913706)
From a '09 model

craps. that wont work on your car most-likely. i would get standard metal stems.

cruzthepug 07-30-2014 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2913710)
craps. that wont work on your car most-likely.


If not, I'll jut deal with looking at the light. Put some tape over it :)

kenchan 07-30-2014 01:50 PM

on my nismo wheels im running rays' metal valve stems. looks good and more reliable than standard rubber stems.

kenchan 07-30-2014 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzthepug (Post 2913712)
If not, I'll jut deal with looking at the light. Put some tape over it :)

yah, that's exactly wat i did. i put some 3M e-tape over the light and honestly i cant even see
where it was in the cluster unless im really looking for it.

wat i did was found a countersunk screw with head diameter about the size
of the tpms light. then i cleaned the screw head, place a piece of e-tape on it,
and trimmed around the screw head with scissors for a perfectly round circle.

then used a thin L- picktool and walla. :D

SwissCheese 07-09-2015 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2566987)
I bought this:

Amazon.com: Autel MaxiScan MS300 CAN Diagnostic Scan Tool for OBDII Vehicles: Automotive

And it works to check and clear codes w/o issue. Quick, concise. :tup:

Sorry to bring up an old thread. I bought this code reader last week and tried using it today for the first time, and it didn't work. I plugged it in, turned the ignition to on (without starting the car), and nothing.

Am I doing something wrong? I know the unit works, because I plugged it into my Jeep and it scanned everything perfectly.

SouthArk370Z 07-10-2015 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwissCheese (Post 3252335)
Sorry to bring up an old thread. I bought this code reader last week and tried using it today for the first time, and it didn't work. I plugged it in, turned the ignition to on (without starting the car), and nothing.

Am I doing something wrong? I know the unit works, because I plugged it into my Jeep and it scanned everything perfectly.

IIRC, the engine needs to be running. But it's been a while since I used a scanner on a 370Z.

sx moneypit 07-10-2015 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwissCheese (Post 3252335)
Sorry to bring up an old thread. I bought this code reader last week and tried using it today for the first time, and it didn't work. I plugged it in, turned the ignition to on (without starting the car), and nothing.

Am I doing something wrong? I know the unit works, because I plugged it into my Jeep and it scanned everything perfectly.

Is the scanner not powering up? If not you need to check the power supply to the OBD connector.

SwissCheese 07-10-2015 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3252587)
IIRC, the engine needs to be running. But it's been a while since I used a scanner on a 370Z.

I'll try this tomorrow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sx moneypit (Post 3252988)
Is the scanner not powering up? If not you need to check the power supply to the OBD connector.

Correct, the unit does not turn on at all. Is there any easy way to check that it's getting power? I don't have a voltmeter.

sx moneypit 07-11-2015 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwissCheese (Post 3253517)
I'll try this tomorrow.



Correct, the unit does not turn on at all. Is there any easy way to check that it's getting power? I don't have a voltmeter.

A simple test light will work.According to ALLDATA it gets power from the battery power fuse number 6.

SwissCheese 07-27-2015 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sx moneypit (Post 3253775)
A simple test light will work.According to ALLDATA it gets power from the battery power fuse number 6.

Well, I tried turning the engine on and the scanner still didn't even turn on. Whats this test light you speak of?

mag_black 07-28-2015 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwissCheese (Post 3268776)
Well, I tried turning the engine on and the scanner still didn't even turn on. Whats this test light you speak of?

I had the same issue when I bought the PLX, I changed the fuse on the Z and it worked. The fuse box is located near dead pedal foot rest on driver side floor.


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