yah, if you look at most folks buying nice wheels, the buy garbage tires with the set making it no better than just eye candy than a 'mod.'

so getting good set of tires on stock wheels would be a mod in my book. :D

I'm not sure I agree with that. Everyone in MAZOC (local z club) that has aftermarket wheels has re-11s or pss. But you did say most not all, I'll give you that.

Reading through this thread made me realize I forgot a few things that probably puts me in the next category up.

you said everyone so one sour apple you just kill him? :icon17:

I read that as: Different than stock tires count but replacing tires for wear/tear doesn't. If I change to non-stock tires, that goes on the tally sheet. When I replace tires (stock or not) because of wear/tear, it doesn't. YMMV

yah, everything on the car wears....it's all wear items. even spoilers, paint, body kits all wear. chips, contaminants, stains, UV

I'd consider stepping up in tire quality a mod

I could have cheaped out and got Nankang or the Hankook V12 (or just get the OEM again) but going with a higher wear high performance tire and shelling out more seems like a bit of a mod to me (IMO)

Just waiting for my discs to wear before I upgrade to slotted discs hehe

Agreed, however, there are parts that are listed as wear items and, as such, are not covered under warranty. These are the things that I consider upgrades and not mods. Things like tires, brake pads, clutch plate and the like. You can replace the wear item with a higher or lower quality part but unless you change the system that uses the wear item it's an upgrade and not a mod. For instance, if you install better brake pads => upgrade but if you install a BBK => mod.

:iagree:

good tires, good pads and rotors all upgrades. even running good fluids are all mods imo.

which i suppose brings us to the next question...

wat is your definition of an upgrade?
wat is your definition of a modification?

my defintion of mods include upgrades. any improvement over stock is a mod. :)

then wat is definition of eyecandy vs mod?

wtf....

I guess modification should only count if you cut into the car and do some "pimp my ride" or jessie james "orange county choppers" sh!t

almost 10k if you consider the 2 sets of tires ive gone through, oil changes and other oils/fluids.

ive kept a huge spreadsheet of it all, down to the dollar spent on crush washers, zip ties, etc :)

haha, yah, like those folks that take apart the entire car to turn them into race machines are modders.

guys like me are upgraders :ugh: or dusters :ugh2: at best.

:icon17:

I am a washer & waxer most of my mods upgrades were necessary.......

about now troyz is sitting back on his throne and going wahahahahha! with his pop corn.

:ugh:

:icon17:

I suppose I should preface this with saying that I haven't historically been much in to "modding" so I could very well be using the terms differently than most.

If we use the dictionary definition of modification then any change from factory spec is a modification and using higher quality components in lieu of factory spec is an upgrade. That said, I've always assumed that "mod", "mods" or "modding" were all more specific terms that related to changing/improving either aesthetics or car systems. It's definitely and interesting semantic argument.

For instance, if you take the viewpoint I've been using then K&N filters and Z1 post-MAF tubes are upgrades whereas Stillen G3 intakes are mods. Like you suggested, if we use any upgrade is a mod then going to a better engine fluid is a mod and if we use the dictionary definition any deviation from factory spec is a mod.

I'm probably overthinking it...lol.
:tiphat: :driving:

Edit: I have a weakness/enjoyment for semantic arguments so if anyone gets fed up just tell me to :gtfo2:!

Aren't we all??? :tup:

:tup:

but i just opened up a can of worms about the eyecandy remark vs mods.

if the car looks more pleasing than stock, would that be a mod, even if the wheels are gravity cast, tires they used are garbage? :ugh: (or would we just close that off calling it rice? :icon17: )

thus troyz's going wahahahahahaha!!! with popcorn. :rolleyes:

someone start a new poll to ban or not to ban troyz. :icon17:

then washer-mod should considered an actual mod..!!

because we actually have to ADD something in the car.... :icon18::icon18:

<20K here.. and I love every bit of it. Only thing that makes me have some regret at this point is that its still not in my damn garage!

I think eye candy mods are mods the same as go-fast mods are mods. I, also, don't think the term mod has any judgement behind it, at least it doesn't for me. There are plenty of mods that I wouldn't consider in a million years but they're still mods. That said, there's no accounting for taste! :stirthepot:

:iagree: x10000000

I can count tires and wheels as a mod. I swap both of them for track days. Also I do not use the OEM wheels.

So my Foose x 4 chrome steel wheels = 2000+ dollars
My Enkei track wheels = 2000+ dollars
And my extra set of tires for track = ~1500 dollars.

My Endless brake pads on OEM sport calipers = 700? dollars.

That's how. I don't NEED any of them to go do a tack day, but they are modifications. Just not necessarily gadgety do-dads.

yeah, I only have about 22000 on it. maybe 5000 on the street.

How much do you have in mods
$500 or Less
$1,000 - $2,500
$2,500 - $5,000
$5,000 - $10,000
$10,000 - $15,000
$15,000 - $20,000
$20,000 or More!

So I guess I can't vote yet until I spend more money as there is no voting option for $500 - $1000. My exhaust only cost $799.99 + $99 for shipping and I installed it myself.

serious.....:inoutroflpuke:

I own a boat. BOAT = Break Out Another Thousand. If I spent for Z mods what I spend on BOAT, I'd have quite a car. As it is, my car came with every option except a trunk organizer and the only mod is tint. Stock is just fine with me.

My Z drinks redbull, don't need no mods

Yeah, spending as much as I did makes me wanna throw up. I'm still on stock wheels and tires too. I still have a laundry list. Such a losing battle.

I say you cannot take the money with you when you die, and tomorrow is not promised so screw it. Modding my Z makes me happy and thats all that matters......:rolleyes:

When i spend money on my Z i always know i will make that money back by the amount of smiles i make when i push the gas and drop the clutch. So thats all that matters to me.

I think when I'm done I'll be between 5-10, maybe a little higher then 10 as I'm adding this up in my head... Fortune coilovers, SPL control arms, whiteline sways, audio system (Kenwood, Focal). rear spats, diffuser, wing, lip. I don't keep a count, if I want it and like the price I get it.

Granted my previous toy... a 1970 Pro Street Camaro with a blown 447 BBC was well into the 6 figures and it wasn't done yet... A restructuring 3 years ago changed all that....

$0 so far, and I keep telling myself that all I'm going to add is tint, a shift knob, and maybe some better speakers.:rolleyes:

I've got well over $7k into my Ducati so far and if I'm that bad with a bike, I'd hate to see what would happen if I started modding a car.:eekdance:

If I am just totaling things I have added, minus tires/brakes/etc. then probably 25-30k.

-GTM SC kit
-Volk wheels
-FI exhaust
-TP
-Audio stuff
-And more

With things like tires, brakes, etc I am in the 50k total spent area.

me too. per my sig, all photoshopped.

Much to my surprise...kind of...when I add it up and I'm just under 5k. Wow that added up fast...

Between 10-15....almost done though. But then next year....le sighhhhh

In 15 months I've put just over $10k into the car. =X

Major upgrades were:
rims
Upgraded LSD
Coilovers
exhaust

I think everything else was under $400 but there were a lot of them.