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vq37ftw 10-31-2013 06:58 AM

from a evo x to a z...few questions
 
This weekend i traded my 2011 evo x in for a z and i love it but there are some things i am unsure of any insight would be great. Clutch feels horrible feels like the spring or something is rubbing when i press it and release it is this normal? Clutch/flywheel chatter from a stop in 1st at low rpms normal?

Any help would be great...i cant seem to get a nice clean shift sometimes seems to be jerky alot.

KeVoH 10-31-2013 07:06 AM

First of all, welcome to the Family.. Now regarding your question.. Start by reading on the following thread. You should get the helper spring, many of us including me are using it and its one of the cheapeast/enjoyable mods.

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...er-spring.html

Cheers!

SS_Firehawk 10-31-2013 07:08 AM

Yes, stck clutch chatters, the flywheel I still 33 lbs tho. And yes, there is a spring in the clutch. You can remove it, replace with a new clutch helper spring, or buy the rjm clutch pedal.

kenchan 10-31-2013 07:36 AM

Give it a tad more gas and tad more slip off the line.

zefaulter 10-31-2013 08:13 AM

Both normal. I would like to replace my spring as well and eventually the clutch/flywheel for a lighter one... I don't mind the noise as long as I know nothing is wrong with it

Elan 10-31-2013 08:17 AM

Yeah the clutch takes some getting used to. It loud and clunky, but it reminds you that you are driving a real mans sports car. None of the clutch delay BS on BMWs. It really takes some skill and precision to drive this one smoothly. Once you get it down, go let that friend that we all have who swears up and down that they are a better manual driver than Michael Schumacher. You will embarrass them.

I think you made a great choice. Yes, no more rear seats, but she looks a hell of a lot better than the Evo. Enjoy the car!

vq37ftw 10-31-2013 08:27 AM

Car looks amazing compared to the evo....but its silver which is boring wish i coulda found one in white...are uprev tunes worth it?

/Angelo350Z/ 10-31-2013 08:29 AM

Welcome OP. I wish I had an EVO X.

kenchan 10-31-2013 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vq37ftw (Post 2548696)
Car looks amazing compared to the evo....but its silver which is boring wish i coulda found one in white...are uprev tunes worth it?

:gtfo2:

DLo 10-31-2013 11:07 AM

I too made that same switch and I tracked both cars fairly regularly. Although I have posted times 2-5 seconds faster at each track in my previous Evo X (w/ SST). I feel like my driving skills have improved dramatically in the Z. Welcome to the Z fam. Enjoy!

ka24king 10-31-2013 11:11 AM

NOIOOOOOOO!!! go get your evo back :p nah jk the z is a fun car welcome to the family. want to make your clutch feel amazing ???? upgrade to any other clutch besides stock and get the clutch helper spring that should fix all your issues.

Mt Tam I am 10-31-2013 11:22 AM

OP. Yes it is normal. All remedies have been given to you.

Welcome to a better forum. :tup:

vq37ftw 10-31-2013 12:31 PM

Thanks everyone! I plan on switching to black chrome nissan emblems how hard is that to do? Just a heat gun and floss? Any screws?

kenchan 10-31-2013 01:34 PM

no yes no

SPOHN 10-31-2013 02:14 PM

If the Evo came in a 2 door my dream would have came true.

kenchan 10-31-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2549420)
If the Evo came in a 2 door my dream would have came true.

really? :icon08:

luigi90210 10-31-2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vq37ftw (Post 2548633)
This weekend i traded my 2011 evo x in for a z and i love it but there are some things i am unsure of any insight would be great. Clutch feels horrible feels like the spring or something is rubbing when i press it and release it is this normal? Clutch/flywheel chatter from a stop in 1st at low rpms normal?

Any help would be great...i cant seem to get a nice clean shift sometimes seems to be jerky alot.

clutch chatter is normal, the jerky feeling is coming from the helper spring, either remove it or get a better clutch and flywheel combo

i have the JWT clutch and flywheel combo and to be honest, it makes chatter at idle but it got rid of the chatter at stops and it got rid of the jerky feeling because i can actually get some feedback from the clutch with the stock helper spring in it

luigi90210 10-31-2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2549420)
If the Evo came in a 2 door my dream would have came true.

so you want a GSX eclipse with a E316G turbo swap?

SPOHN 10-31-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2549442)
really? :icon08:

MY next car will be AWD. That's all I'm saying

kenchan 10-31-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2549490)
MY next car will be AWD. That's all I'm saying

oh ic. :tup:

evoto370 10-31-2013 02:57 PM

I too am thinking about switching over from my evo to a z. Sick of the cheap quality in the evo. EVERYTHING rattles -_- would you recommend the switch?

Riptide67 10-31-2013 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evoto370 (Post 2549501)
I too am thinking about switching over from my evo to a z. Sick of the cheap quality in the evo. EVERYTHING rattles -_- would you recommend the switch?

Yes!

DavidZ370 10-31-2013 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2548757)
:gtfo2:

:icon18::icon18::icon18:

DavidZ370 10-31-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evoto370 (Post 2549501)
I too am thinking about switching over from my evo to a z. Sick of the cheap quality in the evo. EVERYTHING rattles -_- would you recommend the switch?

Honestly the evo is pretty crappy when it comes to quality.. my friends evo felt like a garbage can when i drove it... Z>evo

7speed 10-31-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evoto370 (Post 2549501)
I too am thinking about switching over from my evo to a z. Sick of the cheap quality in the evo. EVERYTHING rattles -_- would you recommend the switch?

Backseats , awd, good lucks, lots of mods , quick car that easily can be fast. Who cares about rattles.......:driving:

evoto370 10-31-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 2549671)
Honestly the evo is pretty crappy when it comes to quality.. my friends evo felt like a garbage can when i drove it... Z>evo

My friend with a DE 350 loves driving my evo since I have 350whp which isn't much but its pretty quick. I have yet to drive a 370z though but I think I'll love the ride much more

evoto370 10-31-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7speed (Post 2549812)
Backseats , awd, good lucks, lots of mods , quick car that easily can be fast. Who cares about rattles.......:driving:

I daily the car and don't get to use the full potential so all of those are kindana waste plus getting 13/14 mpg normal city driving ...... :/

ka24king 10-31-2013 06:41 PM

i just really like the amount of power you can squeeze out of the evo with so little mod money

vq37ftw 10-31-2013 08:01 PM

can you guys point or post a link to where i can get the softer helper spring? i keep searching and googling but havent had any luck. is the group buy over?

wagz 10-31-2013 09:33 PM

So you don't like the Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evoto370 (Post 2549816)
I daily the car and don't get to use the full potential so all of those are kindana waste plus getting 13/14 mpg normal city driving ...... :/

Anything else that you dislike about it (Evo)? I am curious to hear the complete story.

For the longest time the Evo X was on the top of my list for my car search. It still tends to be more practical with the back seat and has more trunk space. Especially, when kids are part of the equation. The AWD also helps for Chicago weather. Its cheap to mod, relative to the Z. My brother in law has a 600hp built motor Evo. I think he spent 2k to 3k on it, he loves that thing.

However, I have come to the conclusion that the Z is going to be my next car. It just look devious, and has over all better fit and finish. I bought the wife a mini-van for traveling w/kids and running around for errands.

I have been driving my 10 year old Honda accord as my daily, and it still continues to run great. So the Z works out really well for me. It's going to be my project car for the foreseeable future.

I drove a 2014 Touring and found that it was much better then what I had expected. Especially compared to my 90zx NA. Power in stock form is plenty (This perception will probably change once the mod bug hits, remember I drive a 4cyl Accord). It handles amazing, and the ride is actually not that firm.

Good luck w/your search.

evoto370 11-01-2013 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wagz (Post 2550013)
Anything else that you dislike about it (Evo)? I am curious to hear the complete story.

For the longest time the Evo X was on the top of my list for my car search. It still tends to be more practical with the back seat and has more trunk space. Especially, when kids are part of the equation. The AWD also helps for Chicago weather. Its cheap to mod, relative to the Z. My brother in law has a 600hp built motor Evo. I think he spent 2k to 3k on it, he loves that thing.

However, I have come to the conclusion that the Z is going to be my next car. It just look devious, and has over all better fit and finish. I bought the wife a mini-van for traveling w/kids and running around for errands.

I have been driving my 10 year old Honda accord as my daily, and it still continues to run great. So the Z works out really well for me. It's going to be my project car for the foreseeable future.

I drove a 2014 Touring and found that it was much better then what I had expected. Especially compared to my 90zx NA. Power in stock form is plenty (This perception will probably change once the mod bug hits, remember I drive a 4cyl Accord). It handles amazing, and the ride is actually not that firm.

Good luck w/your search.

To sum it up other than the performance of the car it doesn't feel like a sports car if that makes sense. For what I use the car for it doesn't fit me. It doesn't feel well built at all my car feels like a mickey mouse car although I bought it brand new idk how to describe it. You have to own one for at least a year to know what I'm talking about. Random new interior rattles start popping up, gearbox always grinds, horrible mpg city driving (not saying the Z gets good mpg, but it is slightly better). However, whatever car I get really can't compare to the evos overall performance. Still deciding on what I really want to do. I also don't like the look of the car. I can't develop a bond with my car... Idk what it is. On the freeway the car drones horribly as 65-70 mph translates to 3.5k rpms and everything in the car is just rattling and the horrible stereo can't cover it up, and if I do turn up the stereo it just rattles even more.... -_-

I feel like since their isn't much you can do to the Z power wise I don't have to really worry about mods other than basics.

/Angelo350Z/ 11-01-2013 03:44 AM

^^ It really does seem the Evo X isn't for you. I understand the "not bonding with the car" scenario. I've had plenty of cars that didn't make me want to look back whenever I parked them. It may sound silly, but I ended up selling those cars at a loss, just so I could drive something I somewhat enjoy. Performance is important, but it isn't everything to me. I prefer to drive a car that evokes my passion for driving. Both cars in my sig did just that.

DEpointfive0 11-01-2013 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vq37ftw (Post 2549921)
can you guys point or post a link to where i can get the softer helper spring? i keep searching and googling but havent had any luck. is the group buy over?

Take the spring out completely.
Welcome :tiphat:

vq37ftw 11-01-2013 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2550335)
Take the spring out completely.
Welcome :tiphat:

If i take it out completely will it damage or effect anything long term wise?

KeVoH 11-01-2013 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vq37ftw (Post 2550364)
If i take it out completely will it damage or effect anything long term wise?

Nop, the only thing some people complained about is, the pedal having a little of side play when not engaged. My advice:
Remove the spring
Test out how it feels
If you like it: a. Buy the spring b. Stay without the spring

:tiphat:

axmea? 11-01-2013 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vq37ftw (Post 2548696)
Car looks amazing compared to the evo....but its silver which is boring wish i coulda found one in white...are uprev tunes worth it?

I love PW but I think you hurt some people's feelings on this one lol.

vq37ftw 11-01-2013 08:46 AM

Just ordered my gtr push start button hopefully i dont break the clips on the bezel while prying and installing it lol

evoto370 11-01-2013 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/ (Post 2550322)
^^ It really does seem the Evo X isn't for you. I understand the "not bonding with the car" scenario. I've had plenty of cars that didn't make me want to look back whenever I parked them. It may sound silly, but I ended up selling those cars at a loss, just so I could drive something I somewhat enjoy. Performance is important, but it isn't everything to me. I prefer to drive a car that evokes my passion for driving. Both cars in my sig did just that.

Exactly you hit it spot on. My friends s2000 was so much more fun to drive than the Evo it almost made me want to buy a s2k :O I hope the 370z feels like your actually driving the car and not being on top of it if that makes sense.

KeVoH 11-01-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evoto370 (Post 2550621)
Exactly you hit it spot on. My friends s2000 was so much more fun to drive than the Evo it almost made me want to buy a s2k :O I hope the 370z feels like your actually driving the car and not being on top of it if that makes sense.

I know exactly what you mean!, take the Z to a curvy road and she will answer your question and put a smile on your face.:tup:

L33T Z34 11-04-2013 05:15 PM

For the op...
After I completed the following list, my Z's clutch feels great! I only get clutch chatter when going up hill.
Also note, I've never removed the "helper spring" and don't plan to. :tiphat:

1) DOT 4 hydraulic fluid
2) removed clutch line restrictor and replaced w/Dorman brake line union
3) Z speed CSC and SS line
4) Input shaft greeezed with MANLEY Xtreme pressure lube
5) Xedy clutch/PP/single mass flywheel
6) FSM clutch pedal adjustment
7) FSM clutch air bleeding procedure


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